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(Jai Nepal, Jai prajaa-prabhutwa dharma, and more, see below) = With Prof Bishnu Pathak and more, see below
  
(1) With Professor Bishnu Pathak on 2025 December 15 to 21 by email
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(2) With Fred Amaya on 2025 December 22 on LinkedIn
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(3) With Dr Cliff Saunders on 2025 November 9 to 25, also earlier chat from 2025 October 30 given, on LinkedIn
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(4) my Gourmet Coffees Customer Satisfaction Survey response on  2025 December 5, on Shopper Approved
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Some highlighted tit-bits ==
Me (to Bishnu Pathak):
... it is no surprise that the youth are for a corruption-free  fair, truthful governing system, and it is of course very commendable, and in the absence of which evils can thrive. We must note that Nepal has the Sanatana Hindu Dharma Civilization as its background political and cultural history of the people, same as India, and this is important. The Constitution must acknowledge it, respect it, draw strength from it, and help deliver the good governance to the people in the form of a democracy, based on it ... Jai Nepal ..

Me (to Fred Amaya): 
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Very happy, very pleased to hear, your kindness and support. Our Many Thanks, Regards and Best Wishes to you and all family

Me (to Cliff Sanders):
Dr Cliff, I remember a conversation with my sister-in-law Sudha Kailar about subject fields, and I said "even Mathematics is only a model". It was back in 1983-84 when we were at State University College, Fredonia NY. I do not remember exactly, but very likely I was commenting on the common notion many of us had then about "pure Mathematics", that is "purity" of Mathematics, which was, in sone sense, considered as the "purest" of the sciences, others like physics for example, involves various approximations in its progress, way forward etc. and perhaps this is where the "theology" and the Church factor that is mentioned in that talk by video by Prof C K Raju can be connected. O am offering my take or opinion about it. Ancient Indian approach to Science or Mathematics "GANITHA" or Knowledge, is not limited or "constricted" by such type "reasoning", but the effort there is for embracing truth, in all its aspects, including feasible or needed or existing or possible or impossible etc aspects, which we may consider is like the "involving Infinity" claim by the speaker in that talk. As we know, "theological purity" notion relates or exists or put forth by people in religions also, for the progress of their agendas. and it has its own impacts, repercussions, in the real world. Thanks for bearing with me, my guesses and opinions.  

Me (regarding Gourmet Coffees survey);
various world varieties were there, including from India, that was my initial attraction to here, Malabar Coffee
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(1) With Professor Bishnu Pathak on 2025 December 15 to 21 by email
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From: Thirumala Raya Halemane <trhal...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Theory of the Gen Z Non-violent Uprising in Nepal
To: Professor Bishnu Pathak, PhD <cie...@gmail.com>
Cc: ..

Dear Professor Bishnu Pathak,
Thank You for your email and for the paper regarding developments in Nepal.
It is indeed a brilliant contribution, happy to see. 
I wrote some comments at the website.
and, here it is ==>>
This is an EXCELLENT essay on the recent developments in Nepal, very informative. easy to read, and with sympathies rightly expressed or implied, in our reading between the lines, we can say. So, compliments and congratulations to the author. The various theories that are put forth here all have some validity, some reverence, and it is no surprise that the youth are for a corruption-free  fair, truthful governing system, and it is of course very commendable, and in the absence of which evils can thrive. We must note that Nepal has the Sanatana Hindu Dharma Civilization as its background political and cultural history of the people, same as India, and this is important. The Constitution must acknowledge it, respect it, draw strength from it, and help deliver the good governance to the people in the form of a democracy, based on it. Jai prajaa-prabhutwa adharma. Jai Nepal. Do Well. All the Best. Good Luck. Be Brave. Be Wise. Take Care. Best Wishes, Aummm..   ps= YES OUR SONS SUFFERED, TARGETED YES = PLEASE HELP. THANK YOU. BEST WISHES. AUMMM...
Regards and Best Wishes
dr thirumala raya halemane
13 eagles pass, princeton, nj 08540, usa
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 10:28 AM Professor Bishnu Pathak, PhD <cie...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Colleague

Greetings/Namaskar!

I am thrilled to inform you that my 153rd paper on the "Theory of the Gen Z Non-violent Uprising in Nepal" was recently published on December 15, 2025, by TMS. You can access the paper at the following link: [https://www.transcend.org/tms/2025/12/theory-of-the-gen-z-nonviolent-uprising-in-nepal/].

I kindly ask you to share this publication with individuals, peers, and institutions who may be interested in the topic.

Thank you for your ongoing support and encouragement.

Truly yours,

Bishnu
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Bishnu Pathak, PhD
Professor of Peace Studies: transcend.org/tpu/#staff & transcend.org/tpu/#course_57
Former Senior Commissioner: Commission of Investigation on Enforced Disappeared Persons, Nepal (ciedp.gov.np)
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/professor-bishnu-pathak-phd-99827129

Inspire Youth Journal: inspireyouthjournal.org/professor-bishnu-pathak
TMS publication: transcend.org/tms/author/?a=Bishnu%20Pathak
Academia.edu: independent.academia.edu/ProfessorBishnuPathakPhD
For resume: peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=910

International Association of Educators for World Peace: iaewp-org.blogspot.com/
Short bio: transcend.org/tms/2016/01/bishnu-pathaks-nine-freedoms-doctrine-to-truth-justice-and-dignity
X.com: @pathakbishnu1
Facebook: pathakbishnu
Instagram: dr_bishnu_pathak

“Learn as if you will live forever; live as if you will die tomorrow.” - Mohan Das Karam Chandra Gandhi

 “Peace is made with adversaries, not friends." - Johan Galtung


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his reply to my above reply to his initial email ==

On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 3:28 AM Professor Bishnu Pathak, PhD <cie...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dr. Thurumala Raya Halemane,

Namaskar!

 

Thank you very much, for your kind words, encouragement, and best wishes.  

The Gen Z movement has had a significant impact on Nepal's political landscape, leading to a major shift in governance. I believe a similar wave will emerge in India within the next two years.  This movement could potentially spread globally, addressing climate issues in Europe, social justice movements in the Americas, fair resource allocation in Africa, and challenges to democracy backsliding in Asia.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance.

Thank you, again.

Sincerely,

Bishnu


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and then  i replied back to him saying ==
From: Thirumala Raya Halemane <trhal...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Theory of the Gen Z Non-violent Uprising in Nepal
To: Professor Bishnu Pathak, PhD <cie...@gmail.com>
Cc: ..

Dear Prof Bishnu,
Thanks for your kind note of appreciation, also further insights into trends of 
the Nepal happenings and scoping out its future directions.
Once again, I am happy to read, admiring your strong focus, deep insights, 
high intelligence, sheer brilliance, that is involved.
it is UNIQUE, MARVELOUS, EXTRAORDINARY, OUTSTANDING, GENIUS. BEAUTIFUL.
We hope and pray for the best.
And, Yes, Thanks for your help. 
We need it very much, and it is, our situation is. as in below.
Our Many Thanks, Regards, and Best Wishes
thirumala raya halemane
13 eagles pass, princeton, nj 08540 
ps=
PLEASE HELP  YES, OUR CHILDREN SUFFERED, WERE TARGETED, YES PLEASE HELP, SPREAD theWORD, CHANGE theBUZZ, TRANSFORM TO REALITY. HELP=YESoursons future POTUS sufferedtargeted world dramastage, meFIRED jobsBLOCKED bigshock wife&sons hardwork spread theword DOyourshare DOitNOW Shilpi wedding done, seekingSUITABLE bridefor Kaviraj 

world drama stage, we are actors, everything we do on any day 24x7 is our acting role that day, all days put together it is our life on the world stage, acting is done means life is over, we try to do the best we can with all our pluses and minuses, desires, skills, biases, egos, arrogances, strengths, weaknesses, others helping, others hurting etc all included, not everything in our hands, this "acting" is our life journey, takes us to our destiny, fate, divine will, it is only way, NO CHOICE !

We are seeking suitable bride for our elder son Kaviraj, we appreciate everybody's help, support, good wishes, good vibes, blessings, spreading the word etc, it is a pleasure to seek and get your help. thanks very much. best wishes.
YES, OUR CHILDREN SUFFERED, WERE TARGETED, YES
YES, OUR SONS SUFFERED, WERE TARGETED, YES = PLEASE HELP. THANK YOU. BEST WISHES. AUMMM...

Although in severe shock and great stress, we have faced the challenges and moved forward crossing the barriers biases impediments etc that came before us, it was tough, not easy, for my wife and sons and the others also I brought up my two sons Kaviraj and Shilpi as future presidents of usa, with that attitude/ outlook/ mindset, supporting and encouraging the leadership nature already in them. They are born in usa, grew up in usa and consider themselves as Americans. The country, the people and the whole world including India where we parents are originally from will need their leadership and contributions to go forward towards better future vision in true spirit of America. It is the nature of truth, nature of nature, nature of humanity.  
YESoursons future POTUS sufferedtargeted world dramastage, meFIRED jobsBLOCKED bigshock wife&sons hardwork spread theword DOyourshare DOitNOW Shilpi inweddedbliss seekingSUITABLE bridefor Kaviraj BEST WISHES AUMMM





It is the only way. There is no other choice. Actually, we do not need a different choice. Because, it is also the best way. Perfect for America and the whole world. Nothing else can be better, however you may look at it. Best wishes. Aummmm we are seeking suitable brides for our two sons, any help, efforts etc much appreciated :- (our younger son Shilpi is now in wedded bliss, so the matrimonial part here is for our elder son Kaviraj)
I am thirumala raya halemane, originally from India, now settled in USA. I was fired from good job as scientist engineer from AT&T Bell Labs in 1992, causing  big shock to family, wife, children, siblings, others, and not able to find another job at same level, wife worked, although in shock, initially was targeted also, but later promoted, children also were targeted, and made to suffer, same with my brothers and sisters in India, but we have faced the challenges and trying to move forward in positive ways

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On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 3:28 AM Professor Bishnu Pathak, PhD <cie...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dr. Thurumala Raya Halemane,

Namaskar!

 

Thank you very much, for your kind words, encouragement, and best wishes.  

The Gen Z movement has had a significant impact on Nepal's political landscape, leading to a major shift in governance. I believe a similar wave will emerge in India within the next two years.  This movement could potentially spread globally, addressing climate issues in Europe, social justice movements in the Americas, fair resource allocation in Africa, and challenges to democracy backsliding in Asia.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance.

Thank you, again.

Sincerely,

Bishnu


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(2) With Fred Amaya on 2025 December 22 on LinkedIn
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2025 December 22
ONAT

Me:
PLEASE HELP ... (rest deleted here for brevity, my usual message with family photo) ..
56 impressions 

Fred Amaya:
Thirumala, wishing you and your family strength, clarity, and support.  
(my reaction Love emoji)

Me:
Fred Amaya Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Very happy, very pleased to hear, your kindness and support. Our Many Thanks, Regards and Best Wishes to you and all family. 
(sent with photo, family)
7 impressions

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(3) With Dr Cliff Saunders 2025 November 9 to 25, also earlier chat from 2025 October 30 given, on LinkedIn 
Neuroplastician 

2025 Nov 9 
Me:
Fwd (10) With Dr K R S Murthy on LinkedIn 
Me:  2025 October 20 
onat 

Thirumala Raya Halemane 
Me: 
Thanks for the very interesting info here about Japan, Shree Murthy avarE. It looks like they have found their-style solution to the male-female companionship or sexual satisfaction type missing factors in people's lives, which is not a "fully-solved" problem anywhere, perhaps we can say, including various civilizations, religions, cultures, nations, tribes, families, individuals etc and lots of conflicts have causes arising from it or related to it life & living having much to do with it also.  
ps= PLEASE HELP YES, OUR CHILDREN SUFFERED, WERE TARGETED, YES  (rest deleted here for brevity)  

Dr. KRS Murthy:
In Japan, there is a strange service:  
Men can rent a woman by the hour, few hours, or day. You may think this strange!  
In SF and Silicon Valley area, there is an award winning senior citizen lady journalist. Only old, bald, ugly, and docile men, but it is important that the men should be already married, with multiple children, ideally the children must be in their 20s and 30s.  Here are the arrangements: 
1. The ugly old and bald man should pick her up in a neutral place, not from her house as she is cheating her husband, has been cheating him for a long time. 
2. It is strictly suggested that the ugly already married man with children in their 20s/30s accompany her to events in Tamil organizations, association of accounting professional, Indian Consulate events, Computer History Museum events, Falcon X events, SF Press and Journalists Club, as examples. 
3. She will entertain him every minute, pleasure him at expert levels. 
4. The fees for the pleasure services should be paid on a monthly basis, yearly basis, and fees per eat events and menu based different pleasure services. She prefers hard cash for all different services, paid in advance. If the man is unable to perform to her satisfaction, it is OK, but a serious financial penalty should be paid to her. 

2025 Nov 10 
Cliff Saunders  1:34 AM 
👍  

Me:
Thanks  
👍  
🙏  

2025 Nov 22 
Thirumala Raya Halemane (He/Him)  10:24 AM 
Me: 
I understand "venting" and its de-stressing benefits instead of the harm stress does if internalized, especially when stress is caused because of friction with power over which you have no ways to fight back and redeem yourself or what you feel is rightfully yours. However my approach to such situations is, and has been, somewhat different than what we may see around often or usually. I follow what we call as dharma, swa-dharma for me, and so far I have been fully satisfied in doing so, etc, although others may think I have been somewhat stupid in not being able to advance higher according to their sense of success etc. If so, then, so be it. I am not going by those measurements.  

2025 Nov 23 
Cliff Saunders  1:51 AM 
" I am not going by those measurements." me neither   
(my reaction ❤️)  

Me:
👍❤️🌹🙏 GREAT. Thank You, Cliff.  

2025 Nov 24 
👍  

Thirumala Raya Halemane (He/Him)  9:36 PM 
Me: 
..And false accusations are even made by individuals who may justify it to themselves and those around them in the name of justifiable "politics" for manufacturing perceptions for helping in their agendas, (and I have seen it happen, with our temple efforts in New Jersey, during HTCS-HATCC merger talks, with people pushing for such a goal, to eliminate HATCC, to help the agenda of HTCS by deliberately bad-mouthing HATCC, its leaders, objectives etc, even mis-representations, false accusations also, back in 1990-91, early 1990s timeframe. The Indian American community here has come a long way since then; much transformation has happened.  
Our temple effort, with its own community-internal & external politics, here in New Jersey, and its influence & impacts, here and beyond, including in USA, India, worldwide, on Hindus, Indians, as well as others, all people, has been pivotal, served as turning point, transformation catalyst, since 1987, and has opened up new ways, new possibilities, new views, new attitudes, new approaches for doing things, for life and living !!! And, one might add, for good & bad, whether you like it or not, but it is kind of inevitable, no other choice so to say, and is for Truth & Dharma, natural progress.  

2025 Nov 25 
Cliff Saunders  12:19 AM 
👍  

Me:
Thanks  
👍  
Thank you!  
Thanks Cliff 🙏❤️🌹🙏 
 (Seen by Cliff Saunders at 3:54 PM).

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==(earlier chat, from 2025 October 30, is here below)==

2025 Oct 30 
Cliff Saunders  6:00 AM 
Dear Thirumala,  
Very nice to meet you, welcome to my little corner of madness.  
Are you interested in my line of neuro magic?  
Warm regards,  
Dr. Cliff  

Me:
👍  
Thanks!  
How's everything with you?  
I hope all's well  Regards  
Take Care. 
Best Wishes.  

Cliff Saunders  8:04 AM 
Most everything is very well with me, thank you for asking.  
How about you?  

Me:
You are welcome. I am doing Okay, under the circumstances, our unique situation, we might say, and, Thanks for asking. 
ps= PLEASE HELP  ..(rest deleted here for brevity, my usual message with family photo) ..

Me:
Yes, and also, 
Hi Cliff, it's great to connect with you. Looking forward to staying in touch.  
(sent two photos, family)

2025 Oct 31 
Me:
(divide & rule failed, now reversing = Everything Connected Advaitha, King Ashoka history details falsified, male-female in Japan, ..  ...
Me: 
Sir, Thanks for curiosity & question, everything is connected as in Advaitha Sri Shankaracharya includes Iran, divide & rule failed, reversing ..  
Sandip De to Me: 
Thirumala Raya Halemane, maybe your observations are correct. But we need to deep drive to find the truth. Indian history is altered by many distortarians we assume as historians. They were with a single motive to diminish Sanatan pride and glorify the invaders. Else see it's very little known King Ashoka was converted to Buddhism much before he ascended the throne killing or imprisoning his elders like Aurangzeb did centuries later. The massacre of Kalinga was not by Sanatan Ashoka but by Buddhist Ashoka, and that also not all Buddhism is in the cause of influence, but the Buddhism of Afghanistan being the influence.  
(my reaction Emoji)  
Me: 
I understand "venting" and its de-stressing benefits instead of the harm stress does if internalized, especially when stress is caused because of friction with power over which you have no ways to fight back and redeem yourself or what you feel is rightfully yours. However my approach to such situations is, and has been, somewhat different than what we may see around often or usually. I follow what we call as dharma, swa-dharma for me, and so far I have been fully satisfied in doing so, etc, although others may think I have been somewhat stupid in not being able to advance higher according to their sense of success etc. If so, then, so be it. I am not going by those measurements.  
(sent photo)

Cliff Saunders  9:46 AM 
Dear Thirumala,  
Prof C K Raju is one of Prof Nisa Khan’s colleagues and he raises excellent points about the History of Mathematics and how it is taught.  
It’s a bit long so make popcorn sit back and prepare to be impressed.  
Here are his writings on the deColonization of Mathematics in Bahrat. http://ckraju.net/papers/Decolonization-reading-list-c-k-raju.html   
Best,  
Dr. Cliff  

Me:
Okay  
👍  
Thanks  

2025 Nov 1 
Me:
Dear Dr. Cliff, 
Thanks for those references above, links to Prof C K Raju's video and work. I watched the video. Yes, indeed, it is amazing, lots of good info, perspectives on how Mathematics has developed, colonial impacts on education etc. Very impressive in its own way.   
By the way, I have an MA in Maths also, and, although I was always much interested in Maths, I decided that I did not want to go much deeper than that into it, and that I felt better about doing things that are more likely to be viewed as being in the applications realm, not just "theoretical" for its own sake.   
I have done research work in theoretical physics back then. PhD in Physics, and later for some years of research & teaching, also in industry. Now, totally out of touch with my past work fields for many many years.  

2025 Nov 2 
Cliff Saunders  2:07 AM 
👍   
(my reaction 🙏)

Me:
Dr Cliff, I remember a conversation with my sister-in-law Sudha Kailar about subject fields, and I said "even Mathematics is only a model". It was back in 1983-84 when we were at State University College, Fredonia NY. I do not remember exactly, but very likely I was commenting on the common notion many of us had then about "pure Mathematics", that is "purity" of Mathematics, which was, in sone sense, considered as the "purest" of the sciences, others like physics for example, involves various approximations in its progress, way forward etc. and perhaps this is where the "theology" and the Church factor that is mentioned in that talk by video by Prof C K Raju can be connected. O am offering my take or opinion about it. Ancient Indian approach to Science or Mathematics "GANITHA" or Knowledge, is not limited or "constricted" by such type "reasoning", but the effort there is for embracing truth, in all its aspects, including feasible or needed or existing or possible or impossible etc aspects, which we may consider is like the "involving Infinity" claim by the speaker in that talk. As we know, "theological purity" notion relates or exists or put forth by people in religions also, for the progress of their agendas. and it has its own impacts, repercussions, in the real world. Thanks for bearing with me, my guesses and opinions.  

Me:
In many cases, including in physics, we often forget the "assumptions". and there could be some implied assumptions which are not stated. For example, in Mechanics, the many body problem is considered not solvable exactly, but Mechanics can make progress and deliver useful results for applications in spite of this huge handicap or difficulty  

2025 Nov 3 
Cliff Saunders  2:09 AM 
Yes. Have you met @M. Nisa Khan  

Me:
Thanks, Dr Cliff. I appreciate your response very much. And, No, I have not met @M. Nisa Khan  

2025 Nov 4 
Cliff Saunders  7:52 AM 
Connect with her and say 'Cliff said to say Hi. Hi'  

Me:
D ear Cliff, Okay, Thanks, and I have sent her a Connect request, but it is not important for me, THANKS ANYWAYS. (I am not a Verified Member, so less likely to receive a reply, it seems). PLEASE DO NOT WORRY ABOUT ME. I AM DOING OKAY. BEST WISHES. AUMMM...  

Me:
Cliff,  that account just disappeared, before my eyes, while I was looking atone of her posts, it is no longer there, unfortunately. It is not a surprise. Similar mysterious disappearances HAVE happened to me, here and elsewhere = NOTHING TO WORRY. DO WELL. ALL THE BEST. GOOD LUCK. BE BRAVE. BE WISE. TAKE CARE. BEST WISHES AUMMM...  

== (later chat from 2025 November 9 to 25 is given first above) ==

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YES, OUR SONS SUFFERED, WERE TARGETED, YES = PLEASE HELP. THANK YOU. BEST WISHES. AUMMM...
PLEASE HELP YES, OUR CHILDREN SUFFERED, WERE TARGETED, YES PLEASE HELP, SPREAD theWORD, CHANGE theBUZZ, TRANSFORM TO REALITY. HELP=YESoursons future POTUS sufferedtargeted world dramastage, meFIRED jobsBLOCKED bigshock wife&sons hardwork spread theword DOyourshare DOitNOW Shilpi wedding done, seekingSUITABLE bridefor Kaviraj

world drama stage, we are actors, everything we do on any day 24x7 is our acting role that day, all days put together it is our life on the world stage, acting is done means life is over, we try to do the best we can with all our pluses and minuses, desires, skills, biases, egos, arrogances, strengths, weaknesses, others helping, others hurting etc all included, not everything in our hands, this "acting" is our life journey, takes us to our destiny, fate, divine will, it is only way, NO CHOICE !

We are seeking suitable bride for our elder son Kaviraj, we appreciate everybody's help, support, good wishes, good vibes, blessings, spreading the word etc, it is a pleasure to seek and get your help. thanks very much. best wishes.”

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various world varieties were there, including from India, that was my initial attraction to here, Malabar Coffee
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(I am grateful to others who gave info about these happenings in Gandhi's life, during our discussions online some years ago. I did not know about it before. It looks like these things are well documented, but not publicly known very well.IT IS TIME TO MAKE IT FULLY VISIBLE INFO for the sake of Truth, for sanatana hindu dharma. Best Wishes, Aummm...)
2025 September 15
reply for Experiment With ?????????? ? ??????????? ???? ???? ? ?????? ?????? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiQaD1bbvk
Me:
pranav, i understand the unhappiness or anger with M K Gandhi here, but there is a lot more to it regarding Gandhi's previous experiences and hardships that he underwent, which made him the kind of individual he was at that stage in life. From what I have read, there was some foreign individual friend (very likely targeted by that intelligence agent, who he was working for) of his who basically entrapped him into a homosexual type relationship, Gandhi was psychologically "taken over" by him. as is mentioned in some letter that Gandhi wrote to him. (these kinds of info are generally not well publicized, so not well known). It would have pushed down the consciousness level, from which to rise up, Gandhi would have struggled like this for some kind of "sadhana" like this, for his own self, without realizing how he was affecting the others, "victimized" in this respect, and behaving badly as the leader of Indian Civilization, to which position he was more or less pushed into by the forces which were operating around him, including the British, also the Indian Royals, and the Indian and foreign Deep States, not just the Indian common man, for whom he was high up there as a Mahatma, but it was not a place where they can hope to get to, or even wanted to get to, since their participation in the struggle for freedom was just that, "swarajya", not suppression, not colonial rule, not evil kind of discrimination etc. So, the issue is much bigger than what is usually presented as by anti-Gandhi and pro-Gandhi forces. TRUTH is much much much deeper and wider, lots of it not fully known etc. !!!!!



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in the old photo here, taken when I visited, from 2010s or 2000s, (?),  we see my elder brother Prof Keshava Prasad Halemane on his balcony at NITK Quarters in Srinivasnagar, Surathkal, Mangalore Kudla, Dakshina Kannada district, Tulunadu region, Karnataka state, India   

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