("Jewish Hebrew Approach to Christianity", symbols etc), With Dr Eli, in 2025 September = BEAUTIFUL

[Thirumala Raya Halemane]

("Jewish Hebrew Approach to Christianity", symbols etc), With Dr Eli, in 2025 September = BEAUTIFUL

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2025 September 17

Re: Thank you so much for your gift!

Me:

Dear Dr Eli,

You are welcome. Thank You for your kind words.

and, it is my pleasure also. It is only a small token amount,

it is an expression of my great appreciation and full support 

for your unusually outstanding work, very very important, 

also foundationally unique, 

= GREAT. EXCELLENT. WONDERFUL. BEAUTIFUL.

Please Keep Up the Good Work.

Also, I wanted to ask you if you have considered extending your

ministry to various other parts of the world, like Asia for example.

as I expect lots of interest, support, there for your work, which is very

different from the Catholic Church or other approaches, 

I can perhaps call it as "Jewish Hebrew Approach to Christianity"

Do Well. All the Best. Good Luck. Be Brave. Be Wise, Take Care.

Best Wishes. Aummm...

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2025 September 15

Mon 11:01 AM 

You replied to pranav for his posting Experiment With ಬ್ರಹ್ಮಚರ್ಯ । ಗಾಂಧಿಗಿತ್ತೇ ಕರಾಳ ಮುಖ? । ಸೌಜನ್ಯ ಕೌಶಿಕ್  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiQaD1bbvk

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on at

The Jewish Mary in the Gospel of Luke - Dr. Eli's Author Blog

https://drelisblog.com/the-jewish-mary-in-the-gospel-of-luke/#comment-3620

• THIRUMALA RAYA & USHA & KAVIRAJ & SHILPI HALEMANE
  September 14, 2025 at 12:09 AM

  Dear Dr Eli,
  YES. IT IS A VERY VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR JEWS, CHRISTIANS, and, ISLAM also, and thus for ALL.
  and gives a better picture of the feminine motherly quality.
  Mary and baby Jesus is a lot more inspiring ideal, while the CROSS is a symbol of power, atrocity, suppression.
  It is very pathetic that Christianity has held onto such undesirable non-divine or non-Godly symbolism for 2000 years,
  which has resulted in the colonial excesses, in the holocaust against the Jews, and much more. It is time to get
  over this problem, and issue, and for Christianity to develop in ways closer to the ways of God or divinity, which is not
  about power for suppression etc. Walking with God, is not the same as power through the CROSS !!!

  Reply
  • Dr. Eli Lizorkin-Eyzenberg
    September 14, 2025 at 10:42 AM

    I am not into symbols like crosses. Certainly, the Bible does not glorify the cross as a symbol; after all, the cross is an execution device similar to the French guillotine. But having said that, I disagree with you, my brother, that Christians that have the cross on their neck or display it in their church or home mean anything evil by it. Just the opposite is the case; the cross was transformed/reformed to become a symbol of God’s extravagant love for humanity. Early Christians (I believe it was the 2nd or 3rd century) already used the sign of the cross (done with hands over one’s head and chest) while quoting the verse, “For I am crucified with Christ; therefore, I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.” So all I think this is more complicated issue than you are suggesting. Respectfully yours, Eli

  • THIRUMALA RAYA & USHA & KAVIRAJ & SHILPI HALEMANE
    September 14, 2025 at 4:33 PM

    Yes, Okay. Dr. Eli. Thank You for your response, giving the views or from the perspective of the devotees of Jesus Christ and His Divinity. No problems. I understand that. It amounts to acceptance of the suffering, in a surrendering type manner we can say, with respect, love, service, devotion to Jesus. I agree with that. And, Yes, you are correct regarding the nature of symbols. They are more complicated, and they can mean different things to different people or groups or contexts or cultures etc, meanings conveyed can vary, it can even be at odds with each other as received by different groups or communities, and in pursuing political agendas, that is often used or done on purpose also, (my views, of course). You are doing GREAT. Regards. Please Keep It Up. Do Well. All the Best. Good Luck. Be Brave. Be Wise. Take Care. Best Wishes. Aummm..

  • Dr. Eli Lizorkin-Eyzenberg
    September 14, 2025 at 10:29 PM

    Thank you very much!

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On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 3:42 AM Dr. Eli's Blog <sys...@drelisblog.com> wrote:

Shalom, THIRUMALA RAYA & USHA & KAVIRAJ & SHILPI HALEMANE!

We are happy to tell you that you got a personal answer from Dr. Eli to your comment on the article “The Jewish Mary in the Gospel of Luke”.

Please, follow the link to see Dr. Eli's response to you and possibly to engage further, as needed: https://drelisblog.com/the-jewish-mary-in-the-gospel-of-luke/#comment-3620

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Dear Dr Eli,

You are welcome. Thank You for your kind words.

and, it is my pleasure also. It is only a small token amount,

it is an expression of my great appreciation and full support 

for your unusually outstanding work, very very important, 

also foundationally unique, 

= GREAT. EXCELLENT. WONDERFUL. BEAUTIFUL.

Please Keep Up the Good Work.

Also, I wanted to ask you if you have considered extending your

ministry to various other parts of the world, like Asia for example.

as I expect lots of interest, support, there for your work, which is very

different from the Catholic Church or other approaches, 

I can perhaps call it as "Jewish Hebrew Approach to Christianity"

Do Well. All the Best. Good Luck. Be Brave. Be Wise, Take Care.

Best Wishes. Aummm...

ps=

2025 September 15

Mon 11:01 AM 

You replied to pranav for his posting Experiment With ಬ್ರಹ್ಮಚರ್ಯ । ಗಾಂಧಿಗಿತ್ತೇ ಕರಾಳ ಮುಖ? । ಸೌಜನ್ಯ ಕೌಶಿಕ್  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiQaD1bbvk

Me:

pranav, i understand the unhappiness or anger with M K Gandhi here, but there is a lot more to it regarding Gandhi's previous experiences and hardships that he underwent, which made him the kind of individual he was at that stage in life. From what I have read, there was some foreign individual friend (very likely targeted by that intelligence agent, who he was working for) of his who basically entrapped him into a homosexual type relationship, Gandhi was psychologically "taken over" by him. as is mentioned in some letter that Gandhi wrote to him. (these kinds of info are generally not well publicized, so not well known). It would have pushed down the consciousness level, from which to rise up, Gandhi would have struggled like this for some kind of "sadhana" like this, for his own self, without realizing how he was affecting the others, "victimized" in this respect, and behaving badly as the leader of Indian Civilization, to which position he was more or less pushed into by the forces which were operating around him, including the British, also the Indian Royals, and the Indian and foreign Deep States, not just the Indian common man, for whom he was high up there as a Mahatma, but it was not a place where they can hope to get to, or even wanted to get to, since their participation in the struggle for freedom was just that, "swarajya", not suppression, not colonial rule, not evil kind of discrimination etc. So, the issue is much bigger than what is usually presented as by anti-Gandhi and pro-Gandhi forces. TRUTH is much much much deeper and wider, lots of it not fully known etc. !!!!!

On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 3:00 PM Dr. Eli's Author Blog <sys...@drelisblog.com> wrote:

Thank you so much! Dear THIRUMALA RAYA & USHA & KAVIRAJ & SHILPI, Thank you so much for your prayers and support! It means a lot to me! I will put it to a good use. Thank you again for all your blessings! Please, know that anything that I am able to accomplish is because of your generosity and faithfulness under the grace and blessings of our God! Donor: THIRUMALA RAYA & USHA & KAVIRAJ & SHILPI HALEMANE Donation: Donation Form Donation Date: September 16, 2025 Amount: $1.08 Payment Method: Stripe Payment Element Payment ID: 745 View the receipt in your browser » Sincerely, Dr. Eli's Author Blog Dr. Eli's Author Blog

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in the attached photos, (mostly copied from my old WhatsApp messages), we see, our son Shilpi and his friends with us (Usha and me)  in Portland OR, in Hood River OR, in Washougal WA, etc. when we were visiting him a few years ago, in 2021 May-June, also friends Mythili & Raghavan Pratiwadi (from Seattle WA), visiting us there in Portland OR, and our son Kaviraj driving us back home from EWR airport in New Jersey etc.