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crsluggo
Mar 30, 2012, 5:38:16 PM3/30/12
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Does anyone have a time frame for when BGG will be up again?
Urza47
Mar 30, 2012, 7:09:09 PM3/30/12
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I suppose not.
fatgreta1066
Mar 30, 2012, 7:32:46 PM3/30/12
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Didn't you hear? The senate passed that wicked restrictive E-trade
bill (I forgot what it's called). BGG's off the air indefinitely. They
plan to relaunch as a subscriber only retail site. I thought everyone
knew already...
bill (I forgot what it's called). BGG's off the air indefinitely. They
plan to relaunch as a subscriber only retail site. I thought everyone
knew already...
belial1134
Mar 30, 2012, 7:35:50 PM3/30/12
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I really hope the downtown is not due to BGG's annual April Fool's joke...lol
GROGnads
Mar 30, 2012, 7:44:11 PM3/30/12
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ONCE they'd administered & ingested "the little BLUE pill", THEN shall
BGG gain "uppage", unless the "pool water" was much too cold. Dammit
Derk! We told you before NOT to put these within your ear or nose, as
it then made you: "harder of hearing"; along with "blowing your
nose"!
BGG gain "uppage", unless the "pool water" was much too cold. Dammit
Derk! We told you before NOT to put these within your ear or nose, as
it then made you: "harder of hearing"; along with "blowing your
nose"!
Brook Gentlestream
Mar 30, 2012, 7:45:18 PM3/30/12
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It's called the Online Freedom and Equality Act.
Jayson Stevens
Mar 30, 2012, 7:55:53 PM3/30/12
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Whatever timje frame people have, it's wrong.
Take however long BGG *should* be down. Double it and add 2.5 hours.
Take however long BGG *should* be down. Double it and add 2.5 hours.
badgeguy
Mar 30, 2012, 8:03:15 PM3/30/12
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BGG should NEVER be down, therefore it should have only been 2.5
hours. We are well past that at this point.
Next!
hours. We are well past that at this point.
Next!
dakarp
Mar 30, 2012, 8:05:29 PM3/30/12
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It'll be a while. I wouldn't wait up. My understanding is that they
are about halfway done, but even once they are done with the hardware
upgrades, it will be a while before the site is back up.
are about halfway done, but even once they are done with the hardware
upgrades, it will be a while before the site is back up.
Jayson Stevens
Mar 30, 2012, 8:05:55 PM3/30/12
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BGG goes down for scheduled maintenance all the time.
Last time they said it would be an hour for server maintenance.
It came back up about 5 hours later.
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Last time they said it would be an hour for server maintenance.
It came back up about 5 hours later.
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Tiago R²
Mar 30, 2012, 6:45:55 PM3/30/12
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Same question here. It's been down for almost 5 hours now.
Any explanation for the downtime? I work with webdevelopment, and
regular maintenance rarely takes more than an hour, in my experience.
Any explanation for the downtime? I work with webdevelopment, and
regular maintenance rarely takes more than an hour, in my experience.
Keldar
Mar 30, 2012, 6:55:44 PM3/30/12
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Yeah, wtf?
Did Moe, Larry, and Curly....or Dewy, Cheatem, and Howe, or whatever
the hell the 3 new servers are called spit the bit? It's been like 3
or 5 hours now?
WTF people....don't make me ask for a refund of my free
membership..... :(
Did Moe, Larry, and Curly....or Dewy, Cheatem, and Howe, or whatever
the hell the 3 new servers are called spit the bit? It's been like 3
or 5 hours now?
WTF people....don't make me ask for a refund of my free
membership..... :(
Jayson Stevens
Mar 30, 2012, 8:09:20 PM3/30/12
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Crossposted from the other thread:
"We're performing hardware upgrades on Friday and Saturday throughout
the day and night. Please expect intermittent downtime as we switch
out old servers for new ones, replace hard drives, and migrate
databases."
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/785357/hardware-upgrades-friday-saturday
So basically, write off BGG for the next 36 hours
"We're performing hardware upgrades on Friday and Saturday throughout
the day and night. Please expect intermittent downtime as we switch
out old servers for new ones, replace hard drives, and migrate
databases."
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/785357/hardware-upgrades-friday-saturday
So basically, write off BGG for the next 36 hours
Morganza
Mar 30, 2012, 8:25:01 PM3/30/12
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Intermittent downtime doesn't exactly describe what we're seeing here :-(
dakarp
Mar 30, 2012, 8:25:43 PM3/30/12
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BGG runs on a shoestring budget, and can't afford the sort of hardware
that would allow for continuous service during maintenance.
Today there are several things going on. First, one of our MongoDB
(database) servers, sackson, is being replaced with a new system. The
goal was to transfer the database to the new server AND pull the old
system from the rack on the same trip. (BGG has only one rack of
servers, and it is full--any time we install a new server, we have to
remove an old one.) In order to do so, we needed to make a full backup
of the database while the site is down--if it were up, we would be
constantly writing to the database. That full backup alone takes a
long time--a couple of hours, I believe. So we shut down the system
and started the backup before Aldie headed to the server room.
Another reason for the trip was that one of the hard drives had failed
on our main file server. In order to replace that, we again made a
full backup before shutting it down. That backup took longer than
expected.
An additional purpose of the trip was to increase the hard drive
capacity in three of our systems. This meant swapping out about 20
hard drives, and this also apparently did not go as smoothly as we
would like.
Finally, two additional servers were installed.
As you can see, there was a lot going on in this maintenance trip. If
we could afford to pay someone to be in charge of our hardware, and if
we could afford more redundancy in our servers, we could certainly do
our maintenance with less downtime. Considering our resources,
though, I think we do OK.
-Daniel
that would allow for continuous service during maintenance.
Today there are several things going on. First, one of our MongoDB
(database) servers, sackson, is being replaced with a new system. The
goal was to transfer the database to the new server AND pull the old
system from the rack on the same trip. (BGG has only one rack of
servers, and it is full--any time we install a new server, we have to
remove an old one.) In order to do so, we needed to make a full backup
of the database while the site is down--if it were up, we would be
constantly writing to the database. That full backup alone takes a
long time--a couple of hours, I believe. So we shut down the system
and started the backup before Aldie headed to the server room.
Another reason for the trip was that one of the hard drives had failed
on our main file server. In order to replace that, we again made a
full backup before shutting it down. That backup took longer than
expected.
An additional purpose of the trip was to increase the hard drive
capacity in three of our systems. This meant swapping out about 20
hard drives, and this also apparently did not go as smoothly as we
would like.
Finally, two additional servers were installed.
As you can see, there was a lot going on in this maintenance trip. If
we could afford to pay someone to be in charge of our hardware, and if
we could afford more redundancy in our servers, we could certainly do
our maintenance with less downtime. Considering our resources,
though, I think we do OK.
-Daniel
Gastel
Mar 30, 2012, 8:29:19 PM3/30/12
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Gasp! My heart... will to live fading... fading... *Plays game of
Small World* Okay... that might do me for a coupla hours.
Small World* Okay... that might do me for a coupla hours.
Aenea
Mar 30, 2012, 8:31:03 PM3/30/12
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I might as well do something useful... Like sleeping...
GROGnads
Mar 30, 2012, 8:31:22 PM3/30/12
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"Were BBG incapable of sustaining 'direction' after 4-hours, then seek
Dr. of Psyche explanation, for a nominal FEE applicable toward the
site with equivalent "BG"s-coinage exchange garnered & obtained!"
"I sent in my Geek Gold 'watch' to "ALL YOUR GOLD ARE BELONG TO US"
and those bastards melted this BGG DOWN!"
Dr. of Psyche explanation, for a nominal FEE applicable toward the
site with equivalent "BG"s-coinage exchange garnered & obtained!"
"I sent in my Geek Gold 'watch' to "ALL YOUR GOLD ARE BELONG TO US"
and those bastards melted this BGG DOWN!"
Jayson Stevens
Mar 30, 2012, 8:53:13 PM3/30/12
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On Mar 30, 5:31 pm, Aenea <alysa.habra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I might as well do something useful... Like sleeping...
Heh. I'm at work> I might as well do something useful... Like sleeping...
GROGnads
Mar 30, 2012, 10:02:21 PM3/30/12
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"Screw you guys, I'm going to PLAY some "Axis & Allies 1941" on my PC.
SOLO!
SOLO!
JS52785
Mar 30, 2012, 10:10:46 PM3/30/12
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1. What kind of monetary donation would you require to upgrade to
hardware which would allow this? Or at least allow it to remain up
without maintenance so frequently?
2. Where/How can donations even be made?
3. There better be no April Fools downtime because there was some just
the other night and now looking like all today and tomorrow. Downtime
on April Fools just to have downtime/play a prank would seem a little
excessive and cruel at this point.
hardware which would allow this? Or at least allow it to remain up
without maintenance so frequently?
2. Where/How can donations even be made?
3. There better be no April Fools downtime because there was some just
the other night and now looking like all today and tomorrow. Downtime
on April Fools just to have downtime/play a prank would seem a little
excessive and cruel at this point.
Mohrlock
Mar 30, 2012, 10:19:00 PM3/30/12
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Wow! That's a big work load! Ever thought to run a fund-drive to help get to the levels of lower maintenance/no maintenance time on your servers?
We all try to donate when we can afford to but I'm sure if you ran a concerted fund raiser it would do very well! Even with no gain to your forum users aside from a smoother-running site - though everyone likes a Microbadge for their efforts *wink wink*
Just a thought, I'm sure it's crossed your minds previously anyways.
We all try to donate when we can afford to but I'm sure if you ran a concerted fund raiser it would do very well! Even with no gain to your forum users aside from a smoother-running site - though everyone likes a Microbadge for their efforts *wink wink*
Just a thought, I'm sure it's crossed your minds previously anyways.
Mohrlock
Mar 30, 2012, 10:21:15 PM3/30/12
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JS52785 there are ways to donate found on BGG already. I know it's a little tricky to find on the site (there's no big "Donate Here" button on the main site) but you can donate already. It's how alot of users have Patron Badges. In fact that's the easiest way to find the donate page; search Patron Badges and you should get to it pretty quickly. Site obviously isn't up now to give you a direct link. If you donate $15 or more you get that year's patron badge. Still never been sure if that is in one donation or retroactively over a 12 month period. Also for every dollar you donate you'll receive 1 Geek Gold :)
Jayson Stevens
Mar 30, 2012, 10:21:36 PM3/30/12
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On Mar 30, 7:10 pm, JS52785 <draconicmas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 2. Where/How can donations even be made?
They're made right on BGG... when it's up and running.
> 2. Where/How can donations even be made?
I can't find the link right now (obviously) but it's not hard to find.
GROGnads
Mar 30, 2012, 11:00:27 PM3/30/12
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chaddyboy_2000
Mar 30, 2012, 11:02:59 PM3/30/12
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There's a concerted fund drive every December... pretty tough to miss
as there's a thermometer-style donation bar across the top of the
screen during the drive!
as there's a thermometer-style donation bar across the top of the
screen during the drive!
GROGnads
Mar 30, 2012, 11:23:26 PM3/30/12
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You could have put their Pay-Pal LINK within here for them others and
maybe offer these TWICE the "GG"s on their RETURN once BGG were such &
up & running some more? GIVE them an incentive at that at least!
maybe offer these TWICE the "GG"s on their RETURN once BGG were such &
up & running some more? GIVE them an incentive at that at least!
kwojtasz
Mar 30, 2012, 11:26:20 PM3/30/12
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One of us BGGer's just has to win that MegaMillions jackpot...
Mohrlock
Mar 30, 2012, 11:27:39 PM3/30/12
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If you donate to MY Paypal then I give a much better return of $s to GGs :P
GROGnads
Mar 30, 2012, 11:31:06 PM3/30/12
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While 'moi' were NAUGHT the slightest bit 'greedy', then I'll take you
UP on this generous proffer of YOURS, with give 'moi' $2 for a "GG"!
UP on this generous proffer of YOURS, with give 'moi' $2 for a "GG"!
Masterhit
Mar 30, 2012, 11:40:14 PM3/30/12
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On Friday, March 30, 2012 7:29:19 PM UTC-5, Gastel wrote:
Gasp! My heart... will to live fading... fading... *Plays game of
Small World* Okay... that might do me for a coupla hours.
:)
Masterhit
Mar 30, 2012, 11:42:16 PM3/30/12
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Time to get Oracle Exadata ... just a half frame or so :P
I'll remote admin it for you!
I'll remote admin it for you!
Mohrlock
Mar 31, 2012, 1:11:16 AM3/31/12
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Oh that's even better returns than BGG! People are going to snap up that deal, Grog!
Apocryphile
Mar 31, 2012, 1:25:12 AM3/31/12
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I personally think this has EVERYTHING to do with BGG's annual April Fools joke. They will post some message to the effect that they are now a subscriber's only site due to their supposed shoestring budget (which I never believed anyway, btw - to put this much work into something shoestring would be complete insanity). I'm just waiting for the other shoe (i.e. joke) to drop.
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gnomecrushr
Mar 30, 2012, 11:34:44 PM3/30/12
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"Can't afford?" This is a website with 10s of millions of page views
every month and some 75-100,000 unique visitors a day, according to
quantcast. Not trying to start a grumblefest here, but I think it
might be time to bite the bullet and make those necessary upgrades.
The other highly-trafficked websites somehow do it.
every month and some 75-100,000 unique visitors a day, according to
quantcast. Not trying to start a grumblefest here, but I think it
might be time to bite the bullet and make those necessary upgrades.
The other highly-trafficked websites somehow do it.
mugs
Mar 30, 2012, 8:37:02 PM3/30/12
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They're running a big website on a small budget. These things take
longer as a result.
longer as a result.
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