Why BGG contributors can't sue when Aldie sells BoardGameGeek after the Beta Update
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JE in E dot COM
Apr 1, 2012, 1:02:52 AM4/1/12
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Much of BoardGameGeek's value lies in the many (unpaid) contributions from its users in the form of articles, reviews, videos, and images, which together make a comprehensive database. If/when BoardGameGeek does get sold, do those who have contributed to its value have a right to some of the money?
There's some interesting similarities with the case of the Huffington Post media web site being acquired by AOL, and a subsequent lawsuit filed by the bloggers who had contributed to its content and value.
Does this parallel what BoardGameGeek users do for BGG? Check out these articles and share your thoughts.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383472,00.asp (Huff Post Sued For $105 Million By 'Modern-Day Slave' Bloggers)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402444,00.asp (Judge Tosses HuffPo Unpaid Bloggers Suit)
There's some interesting similarities with the case of the Huffington Post media web site being acquired by AOL, and a subsequent lawsuit filed by the bloggers who had contributed to its content and value.
Does this parallel what BoardGameGeek users do for BGG? Check out these articles and share your thoughts.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383472,00.asp (Huff Post Sued For $105 Million By 'Modern-Day Slave' Bloggers)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402444,00.asp (Judge Tosses HuffPo Unpaid Bloggers Suit)
JE in E dot COM
Apr 1, 2012, 1:09:43 AM4/1/12
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By the way, this is a serious question, not an April Fools joke.
aramis
Apr 1, 2012, 1:18:21 AM4/1/12
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Not quite comparable; BGGers are paid in scrip (geekgold), which said
scrip has cash value by virtue of it being exchangeable for goods and
services. Very small amounts, but still, it's token pay. I've gotten 2
games with my GG...
scrip has cash value by virtue of it being exchangeable for goods and
services. Very small amounts, but still, it's token pay. I've gotten 2
games with my GG...
nexttothemoon
Apr 1, 2012, 1:35:08 AM4/1/12
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Take BGG public... give all members stock options based on the level of their content. Reap the rewards. :)
Seriously... when does BGG become a public company? I'm sure that an IPO would raise piles of capital to help maintain and run the site and wouldn't we all love to own a few shares of "The Geek". :)
Seriously... when does BGG become a public company? I'm sure that an IPO would raise piles of capital to help maintain and run the site and wouldn't we all love to own a few shares of "The Geek". :)
David desJardins
Apr 1, 2012, 1:50:13 AM4/1/12
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In response to the supposedly serious question, Huffington Post
contributors obviously aren't entitled to anything (as the court
found), and BGG contributors even less so.
-- David desJardins
contributors obviously aren't entitled to anything (as the court
found), and BGG contributors even less so.
-- David desJardins
Joel Eddy
Apr 1, 2012, 1:51:48 AM4/1/12
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Who cares?
If they sell it to douche bags, people will stop contributing...
On Mar 31, 10:50 pm, David desJardins <david.desjard...@gmail.com>
wrote:
If they sell it to douche bags, people will stop contributing...
On Mar 31, 10:50 pm, David desJardins <david.desjard...@gmail.com>
wrote:
ralpher
Apr 1, 2012, 1:57:00 AM4/1/12
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BGG's not being sold. It is probably making more money each year than
its perceived value in a sale. The unwieldy URL and the lack of money
in boardgaming itself probably discourages any conventional buyer.
its perceived value in a sale. The unwieldy URL and the lack of money
in boardgaming itself probably discourages any conventional buyer.
ralpher
Apr 1, 2012, 2:00:48 AM4/1/12
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Let' see, 4000 supporters in December, probably at least twice as many
supporting the other 11 months, and the marketplace moving 10,000
sales at $10 a transaction on the low end per year, and you're looking
at BGG making $185,000 a year.
supporting the other 11 months, and the marketplace moving 10,000
sales at $10 a transaction on the low end per year, and you're looking
at BGG making $185,000 a year.
Jorune
Apr 1, 2012, 2:04:37 AM4/1/12
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Which is hardly anything when you consider how many people work full-
time for the geek, the hardware upgrades, ISP payments, etc.
Jorune
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time for the geek, the hardware upgrades, ISP payments, etc.
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JE in E dot COM
Apr 1, 2012, 2:11:03 AM4/1/12
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You haven't factored in revenue from advertising yet.
Webanalyzer gives boardgamegeek a site value of $7,912,886. Domainvalues estimates the domain to be valued at $957,356 and stimator gives it a worth of $771,332.
See:
http://www.websiteanalyzer.org/boardgamegeek.com
http://domainvalues.com/www.boardgamegeek.com
http://stimator.com/boardgamegeek-com
Has Aldie ever stated anything publicly about selling the site? To my knowledge he's never said that he *wouldn't* do this, although I can't see it happening before the Beta Upgrade is finalized.
Webanalyzer gives boardgamegeek a site value of $7,912,886. Domainvalues estimates the domain to be valued at $957,356 and stimator gives it a worth of $771,332.
See:
http://www.websiteanalyzer.org/boardgamegeek.com
http://domainvalues.com/www.boardgamegeek.com
http://stimator.com/boardgamegeek-com
Has Aldie ever stated anything publicly about selling the site? To my knowledge he's never said that he *wouldn't* do this, although I can't see it happening before the Beta Upgrade is finalized.
GROGnads
Apr 1, 2012, 2:18:17 AM4/1/12
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THAT has already been ongoing since FUbook was added into BGG along with them others "Like" of such 'ilk'! Same with Chrome browsers, and what else?
BitJam
Apr 1, 2012, 2:32:26 AM4/1/12
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On Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:02:52 PM UTC-6, JE in E dot COM wrote:
Much of BoardGameGeek's value lies in the many (unpaid) contributions from its users in the form of articles, reviews, videos, and images, which together make a comprehensive database.
I have to disagree. Most of the value is in the people who are making the posts, not in the posts themselves. Another way to put it is that the value of the content is measured not in bits and bytes but in the number of people who want access to it. I like BGG a lot. It is a very friendly place and it feels safe and (believe it or not) grown up. If BGG sold out and the atmosphere changed then I would go elsewhere. Sure, there is a lot of great content but the bottom line is that I am here because of the people and the community. When I look back at various jobs and positions I've had, I see that how much I enjoyed each one depended almost entirely on the people I was working with and not on what we were working on.
Another thing to keep in mind is that nothing lasts forever. Many Japanese anime and tv shows take this into account and plan for only a couple of seasons and give you a very definite and satisfying ending at the end. When we realize things don't last forever it helps us make better use of them while they are here.
Jayson Stevens
Apr 1, 2012, 2:51:16 AM4/1/12
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Not happening. Read the Terms and Conditions next time you sign up
somewhere and you'll see why.
On Mar 31, 10:02 pm, JE in E dot COM <jestr...@despammed.com> wrote:
> Much of BoardGameGeek's value lies in the many (unpaid) contributions from
> its users in the form of articles, reviews, videos, and images, which
> together make a comprehensive database. If/when BoardGameGeek does get
> sold, do those who have contributed to its value have a right to some of
> the money?
>
> There's some interesting similarities with the case of the Huffington Post
> media web site being acquired by AOL, and a subsequent lawsuit filed by the
> bloggers who had contributed to its content and value.
>
> Does this parallel what BoardGameGeek users do for BGG? Check out these
> articles and share your thoughts.
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383472,00.asp(Huff Post Sued For
> $105 Million By 'Modern-Day Slave' Bloggers)http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402444,00.asp(Judge Tosses HuffPo
> Unpaid Bloggers Suit)
somewhere and you'll see why.
On Mar 31, 10:02 pm, JE in E dot COM <jestr...@despammed.com> wrote:
> Much of BoardGameGeek's value lies in the many (unpaid) contributions from
> its users in the form of articles, reviews, videos, and images, which
> together make a comprehensive database. If/when BoardGameGeek does get
> sold, do those who have contributed to its value have a right to some of
> the money?
>
> There's some interesting similarities with the case of the Huffington Post
> media web site being acquired by AOL, and a subsequent lawsuit filed by the
> bloggers who had contributed to its content and value.
>
> Does this parallel what BoardGameGeek users do for BGG? Check out these
> articles and share your thoughts.
>
> $105 Million By 'Modern-Day Slave' Bloggers)http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402444,00.asp(Judge Tosses HuffPo
> Unpaid Bloggers Suit)
JE in E dot COM
Apr 1, 2012, 7:51:05 PM4/1/12
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What's not happening - selling BGG? I can see it happening one day. But please explain.
aliquis
Apr 1, 2012, 8:29:56 PM4/1/12
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How do you get games from GG?
JE in E dot COM
Apr 1, 2012, 9:15:56 PM4/1/12
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In the Games for GG Lotteries: http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/Geekgold_for_Game_Lotteries#
JE in E dot COM
May 29, 2014, 10:49:06 PM5/29/14
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It would be interesting to see some figures on that. They raised about $250k from user contributions last year, I wonder what numbers they get from advertising.
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