Issue 9 in bfo: Examples for qualities

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New issue 9 by bjoern.m.peters: Examples for qualities
http://code.google.com/p/bfo/issues/detail?id=9

The current examples only include qualities that always inhere in the
bearer (e.g. mass) not some that can go away (Barry's examples were
headache, sunburn). One of the latter should be included.

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Comment #1 on issue 9 by mcour...@gmail.com: Examples for qualities
http://code.google.com/p/bfo/issues/detail?id=9

I am still confused by this, and am wondering if we are talking about the
same thing when referring for example to "headache".

I will use the definition from wikipedia "A headache or cephalgia is pain
anywhere in the region of the head or neck." as a starting point. In the
paper "Towards an Ontology of Pain and of Pain-Related Phenomena",
available at ontology.buffalo.edu/medo/Pain.pdf, the authors propose a
treatment of pain.
They define pain as "pain =def. an unpleasant experience on the part of a
human subject that is both sensory and emotional and that is of a type
that is either canonical pain (PCT) or phenomenologically indistinguishable
from canonical pain" adding "The canonical pain process will involve
activity in many components of the central nervous system. Part of the
physical basis for this process is localized in the sensory cortex and
emotional centers."
This seem to indicate that pain is not a quality, and therefore headache
wouldn't be one.

I think there is a disposition to have a headache (similar to the disease
disposition) and there is a process realizing this disposition, the
headache (similar to the disease course) Authors of the paper above also
mention a physical basis for pain, which could be treated in the same way
than disorders are the physical basis for disease.

Regarding the sunburn example, in the paper mentioned above, authors take
the example "primary sunburn" to illustrate PCT, pain with Concordant
Tissue damage, and indicate that the physical basis of the pain is the
activation of nociceptive system through peripheral tissue damage. This
seem again consistent with the treatment proposed above.


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Comment #2 on issue 9 by batchel...@rsc.org: Examples for qualities
http://code.google.com/p/bfo/issues/detail?id=9

I think "headache" is a leftover from discussions of accident vs. substance.

"suntan" might be a better example than "sunburn", though, with the caveat
that it is vague---a given skin melanin concentration for me might be a
suntan but not for you.

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