Hi,
Please advice the need for 1password to have its own in-app backup since backup is already enabled by default in iCloud backups.
If I disable the iCloud backup in iCloud's settings and just enable the in-app backup, will I be able to restore all my passwords if I get a new device by using restore from iCloud. Thanks.
We've found iCloud's backup system does not reliably back up and restore 1Password data. The best way to avoid a difficulty is to use a 1Password.com subscription account. That way whenever you get a new device you simply login to your 1Password account and all of your data is accessible.
I know you have the 1password account available for subscription. I hope that you can be impartial to both subscribed and non subscribed users. You did not answer my question at all.
Please allow me to ask you again.
If I disable 1password backup in the settings of the backup of iOS to iCloud and just have the in-app backup to iCloud enabled, will I be able to restore my passwords to a new device using iCloud restore. Thanks.
I believe I misunderstood your question, at least in part, and I also believe it is due to a difference in terminology. Please bear with me a moment. A backup is different than sync. If you are using the standalone version of 1Password (no subscription) and want a backup then you'll need to follow the guide I linked above. If you want to sync your 1Password data, such that the encrypted data is stored with iCloud and kept up to date on multiple devices, you can set up syncing with iCloud:
Sorry if it feels like we're discussing semantics a bit here but it is actually an important distinction. Sync doesn't protect you if, for example, you accidentally delete an item. A backup does. But either can potentially protect against losing data if a device is replaced (due to loss, damage, an upgrade, or whatever other reason). Ultimately if using the standalone product our recommendation would be to take advantage of both backups and sync.
After upgrading my iPhone 6 Plus to IOS 9, my iCloud storage shows 5GB of my 25GB available. It shows an iPad Air (not yet updated to iOS9) backup of 516MB, and an iPhone backup of 0 KB, which I cannot delete (This backup cannot be deleted at this time). Documents and Data only 6.9MB, but only 5 GB available, and not enough room to continue to back up the iPhone. The 19GB iPhone backup appears to have been corrupted and cannot be deleted or updated by the phone. Looks like lots of folks are having similar issues. Any solutions?
If I switch in iTunes from "backup to iCloud" to "back up to this computer", and then back to iCloud, it still shows the phantom 19GB of space occupied. If I click "back up now", it goes through the process, but still shows last iCloud backup is from 9/16, before the iOS 9 upgrade - it does not update.o
on the phone: Settings- General- Storage & iCloud Usage, or Settings- iCloud- Storage- Manage Storage (either one) shows Backups: Joe's iPhone (ThisiPhone) 0KB. Click on the backup, it shows Latest Backup- Never (since I tried to delete it- before it showed 9/16 which was the last backup before iOS 9 upgrade), backup size 0 bytes. Option to DELETE BACKUP brings up "Do you want to TURN OFF BACKUP and delete all backup data for this iPhone from iCloud?" Clicking "Turn Off and Delete" shows "deleting....."and it stops. But the iPhone backup 0KB is still listed, and there are still only 5GB of space available - the 0KB backup is taking up its usual 19GB, and has NOT been deleted. The option to delete is gone until I restart the phone.
I was looking for that setting. Turned backup off, restarted the phone. iPhone backup no longer listed under "manage storage", but still only 5GB available - the phantom backup up is still taking up room in the directory. Turned it back on, said "backup now", starts to back up, then popup "cannot be backed up because there is not enough iCloud storage available. Apple server file allocation table is corrupted...
I also have a bunch of "phantom space" in my backup set, though in my case it's only about 3 GB. It's still very frustrating though, because I can see on iCloud.com that 9.5 GB are devoted to backups, but on any of my devices it only lists 6.9 GB of backups (i.e., it's impossible to delete more than 6.9 GB). I'd be perfectly willing to nuke all the backups and start fresh in order to reclaim the space, but they don't even give us that option.
I know; not a good situation. I'm getting a new iPhone 6S Plus next week. What do I restore it from? Obviously not an iCloud backup unless Apple fixes this quickly. iTunes 12.3 still has issues with Windows 10, though backup to computer SEEMS to work... scary though.
That's close to what happened for me except that the back up then proceeded and completed, but then again I had oodles of room. I wonder if for the sake of getting the first backup to complete, if turning everything that's backed up off (or most of it) so it's only a small back up will do it.
Could try I guess; but getting a small backup to fit in my remaining 5GB available space (my iPad on iOS 8.4.1 is still backing up successfully every night) won't solve the problem when I need more than 5GB, will it?
If you go to Settings>iCloud>Storage>Manage Storage> and click on the device in question, you will then see a list of items below the backup info that are turned on (or off). What is turned on is what is backing up. What is turned off is not included in any backups that are being made.
When i go to a connected iPhone and look at my iCloud available backups, I see 1 for my ipad and 1 for my iphone. However, when i go to restore my iphone, the only backup available to choose froom is the ipad backup. It wont show the iphone backup that I know exists. Help! All devices were updated to 5.1 and backups were proformed on everything prior to restoral process.
Thanks for the advice. I had the exact same problem, except I had my iPad replaced instead of the iPhone. So I updated the software on the new iPad from 5.01 to 5.1, and voila... the iPad back up was there, and I successfully restored. Thank you so much!
Works excatly the same updating from 5.0.1 to 6.0.1. Had my phone replaced, it was backed up to icloud but the icloud couldn't find the back when i went to restore. Updated the software and appears no worries! Thank you!
I am in the early stages of creating an app where I would like to save, sync and backup data. The app will not store any files just data in a database. It is going to be iOS 8 and up so I am able to use CloudKit. I did some research and still not clear on how Core Data, iCloud and CloudKit work together.
To start a backup to iCloud, connect your iPhone to Wi-Fi and then go to Settings and tap the Apple ID/iCloud tab at the top, which also has your name. If you're not signed in, take a moment to do so and then tap iCloud. On the next page, scroll down and tap iCloud Backup, enable iCloud Backup, and then tap Back Up Now to start.
The setting that tells your phone to maintain automatic iCloud backups, as well as the button to Back Up Now are buried deep within the Settings app, one screen past the backup settings for individual apps.
Depending on how much data you have, or if this is your first time backing up to iCloud, the backup process could take a few minutes or an hour. Check below the Back Up Now button to see the exact time and date your phone was last backed up. Now, any time your iPhone is connected to power, locked and on Wi-Fi, it will automatically back up whatever new data you have to iCloud.
If that iCloud backup worked just fine, then great, you're done. But I realize a lot of people won't be able to back up to iCloud without a little work. You might see this message on your iOS device: "This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not enough iCloud storage available."
As I mentioned earlier, iCloud doesn't back up every last thing on your phone. Instead, it takes a smart approach and won't back up things that are synced with your internet accounts or that you've purchased with your iTunes Apple ID. To figure out exactly how much iCloud space your backup file will take, go to Settings, tap on your Apple ID and then go to iCloud > Manage Account Storage > Backups. There's a list of devices that are backing up or trying to back up with your account.
By the way, if you see multiple backups of the same phone, take a look at how old each one is. You might have an older iPhone backup that you can delete to open up iCloud space. Once you're done purging this list, tap on the name of the device you're currently using.
Lower on the screen under Next Backup Size is a list where you can Choose Data to Back Up. This list will have apps and how much data each has to back up. The list goes from what takes up the most space to the least. If you just need a slightly smaller backup file, uncheck larger data items from the list if you don't mind whether or not they're backed up.
If all you wanted to back up was your camera roll, the only setting you'd need to toggle would be iCloud Photos. Besides Photos, there is a list of every other iCloud-enabled app on your iPhone, starting with Apple's own apps. Besides Photos, the two biggest data hogs using your iCloud storage tend to be Mail and Messages. If you turn off the iCloud backup settings for these two apps however, old messages won't be restored in case you get a new phone.
I realize that the idea of paying Apple more money on top of what we already spend on devices, accessories and AppleCare may not sit well. But if you lost your iPhone and were told you could download a backup of all of the data from your lost phone for just $36, you'd probably say yes. And that's how much the 200GB extra storage plan on iCloud costs for a year. (If you need more space than that, well, it does get a bit spendier.)
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