Maybe keep we should aim to keep it simple (KISS). :) Just how we prefer our toolchain.
That one email was not out of line since he was polite and offered a job related to what this mailing list is about.
There is no other spam or recruiting spam either. No need to write a constitution and over-complicate things.
Till
On Monday, July 9, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> Hi,
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> I think that Christian's main point was more to keep the list clear from head hunters, not to shield all people from job offers in general. And I also believe that this list should remain focused on the topic and not turn into a general discussion list.
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> I also agree that if there are rules then they should be posted somewhere. As we don't have any written rules yet we should take this opportunity to write some rules which the majority of this list agrees upon. Here is my suggestion to start a discussion about the rules:
> I actually believe that recruiting is a normal part of any event and we should just give recruiting a place that does not offend or disturb anybody while still enabling those who need recruiting to do so. If there would be no recruiting whatsoever then I would see this as a very critical indicator for where this area is heading to: Complete and utter irrelevance.
> Kind Regards,
> Schlomo
> On 09/07/12 15:37, Mathias Meyer wrote:
> > 1.) if there is a guideline it should be mentioned on the website or the group's site. 2.) i said i'm not opposed to the emails. if you're looking for a new job, sure it's an email with a certain value to the person looking for the job. My interest is not to bring up a discussion on this. If that's what was settled on, mention it somewhere, and there doesn't have to be a discussion about it. As long as it's not written down I can't blame Jonathan for posting a simple job ad. Cheers, Mathias On Monday, 9. July 2012 at 15:30, Nils von Harlessem wrote:
> > > Christian mentioned on our last meetup that he is trying hard to keep this group free of headhunters and HR-agents. Therefore i see no value for the group when people post job postings like "we need a dev ops engineer" or similar here - do you? best, Nils On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Mathias Meyer <
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> > > > +1, in particular given that I couldn't for the life of me find something that said it's not allowed to send job postings to this particular mailing list. Cheers, Mathias On Monday, 9. July 2012 at 15:12, till wrote:
> > > > > I'm not opposed to these posts, but a good idea is to give a talk at a meetup and advertise during/before/after it. ;-)) On Monday, July 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM, jonfm wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Nils, Fair enough. I don't mean to offend. Where is the best place to put direct (not from an agent) posts about jobs which are culturally compatible with the DevOps mindset? For example, where this community will see it if they are looking? Has anyone had any really bad experiences with getting their approach across within a company environment? What are the biggest hurdles? Jonathan skype: jonathanananan email:
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j...@jonfm.co.uk) On Monday, July 9, 2012 12:11:41 PM UTC+2, Nils von H wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Jonathan people in this list consider job offerings as spam - this group is solelyl dedicated to the DevOps Mindset - to exchange experience, discuss specific topics and organizing the monthly meetups. cheers, Nils On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:48 AM, jonfm <> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi All, My new company is hiring and I think our openings are perfect for members of this group who are looking for work, let me know if there is a better list or if people consider this spam... but basically I want to know if you are interested. Our philosophy is continuous testing and integration, virtualisation (where it makes sense), one step build and a firm belief in a zero defect deployment. We are creating an agile team for a new project. Some of the technologies we use are: Heroku, AWS(EC2/S3), Postgres, Ruby (rails), Git, Solr/Elasticsearch, and Memcached We are also interested in evaluating: Varnish, Riak, Redis, CloudFront, and/or Mongo We use scrum and kanban, keep our backlog simple, provide good working conditions and have great financial backing. If anyone is interested, let me know and we can talk about the details. Jonathan
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