LPG Solenoid

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Mark Stillwell

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Sep 24, 2006, 7:01:59 PM9/24/06
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While cooking breakfast, the stove propane flame began to flicker and went out. After filling the propane tank, it worked for about 10 minutes then went out again. We touched the LPG solenoid...it was too hot to touch.  I think it is gone.
 
I recall some discussion of replacing the solenoid - 2004 B331. Any advice will be appreciated.
 
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Sep 24, 2006, 7:20:30 PM9/24/06
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Had to replace mine after 2 years.  Ordered through Beneteau parts ( for such a little thing, it's not cheep!) Was told by either Ward or Todd at Beneteau that they do generate heat and that this is normal. 
 
Barry - Avago B331

Rick Donovan

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Sep 24, 2006, 9:14:19 PM9/24/06
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I replaced our solenoid after 4 seasons of intermittent use. I found that the solenoid valve will sometimes stick if it has not been used for a while. We have a switch at the nav panel that I repeatedly turn on and off half a dozen times or more each time we are going to use the stove. That has worked for us.

 

The heat as someone else has mentioned is normal, it gets very hot to your touch.

 

Have someone listen with their ear fairly close to the solenoid valve when it is turned on and off with the switch, they should hear a definite clicking of the valve moving. It is also possible that the coil windings are going bad and the valve slowly closes because the magnetism goes away. This could happen after the ten minutes or so that you described and I feel is caused by leaving the solenoid switch turned on for long periods of time.

 

Test it again the same way once the stove stops working, and I would bet that you won’t hear the same clicking as when you first started the test. If that is the case, the coil is bad. West Marine sells these valves as a complete unit that includes the whole solenoid valve and the coil but cost almost $100 and are normally in stock, no need to go thru Beneteau unless you want to. I looked into buying just a coil somewhere with no luck. The complete unit costs a lot in my opinion, so I also tried some place other than a “Marine” store thinking that the price might be better, but every where I checked they were very similar in cost, even a camping supply outlet and MSC.

 

Rick Donovan

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eduardo rihiusa

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Sep 24, 2006, 9:21:03 PM9/24/06
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It happened to me three month ago, i called trident and they confirmed,, need to be changed,,,defender has it in stock at about $80 .
 
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Sep 25, 2006, 11:19:49 AM9/25/06
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 I couldn't get my stove to light with solenoid switch on and contacted Tasco, the stove manufacturer.  They sent me a new solenoid for around $60 if my memory is correct.

The surprise was that my problem was not the solenoid, but rather a lose wire in the electrical panel that connected the solenoid to the panel.  That doesn't sound like your problem. 

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Kidd, James

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Sep 25, 2006, 11:42:32 AM9/25/06
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For another way to diagnose this:

If the solenoid is getting electricity, it becomes very warm after a few minutes, even if its frozen shut.

If its opening properly, you will hear the click, but it still gets warm….

(If its not getting electricity it will be cool and not click)

 

 

B 361

 

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Sep 25, 2006, 12:11:48 PM9/25/06
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That didn't happen in my case.  It actually got hot but didn't have enough power to open the valve.  There wasn't a click, but it was hot.

Bill Wagner

Rick Itenson

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Sep 25, 2006, 12:32:47 PM9/25/06
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B installed a lot of solenoids from Trident marine that seemed to fail
prematurely. Mine went in the first season and Trident replaced it.
My buddy's went in the second season. I got a list of the hulls on the
various models that had this solenoid from B and posted it on the 393
site. It is extremely rare for a propane solenoid to fail. On my CS36
that has had 18 years of heavy use the solenoid is still fine.

Rick
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Sep 25, 2006, 12:34:40 PM9/25/06
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I called Ward at Beneteau to order a new solenoid. I explained the problem and he agreed it was the solenoid.  He said it was covered under warrantee. I had to pay for the part, but will return the old one for a refund.

Mark

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Neal Lindeman

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Sep 25, 2006, 1:32:21 PM9/25/06
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Maybe you have the answer by this time but:

It is normal for the solenoid coil to be hot. I have had simular problems
and replaced the coil but, not the solenoid (plunger) because it was too
hard to get to.

However, it was the plunger that was bad. I turned it out with a spanner
(crescent wrench) and replaced the plunger in the existing brass body. The
stove works fine now.


Neal Lindeman


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