Deck organizer replacement

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I need to replace and upgrade both my deck organizers on my 1991 Beneteau Moorings 38.
I 'assume' they are bolted through the saloon coach roof at an appropriately reinforced section.
If bolted as I'm assuming, I will need to remove the head lining panels in the saloon to get to the nuts unless by a miracle they are held/glued in place. Has anyone done this and been able to remove the lining, long covered plywood panels without wrecking it.

Blue Cristal
John Herrmann

[Jeffrey Schwartz]

you may be able to just change the sheaves and leave the deck organizers... they would be bolted down as there could be high loads on them as they or some of them act a s turning block? Look at Harken Sheaves to see what may fit your organizers.


Jeffrey Schwartz

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[Skye Cove]

Did this a few years ago on our 411. I just replaced the shives. Removing the head liner panels gives access to the bolts.

Was pretty easy once I found the right shives.

-skye

On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 5:19 PM Jeffrey Schwartz <jeff...@comcast.net> wrote:

you may be able to just change the sheaves and leave the deck organizers... they would be bolted down as there could be high loads on them as they or some of them act a s turning block?  Look at Harken Sheaves to see what may fit your organizers.


Jeffrey Schwartz

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I need to replace and upgrade both my deck organizers on my 1991 Beneteau Moorings 38.
I 'assume' they are bolted through the saloon coach roof at an appropriately reinforced section.
If bolted as I'm assuming, I will need to remove the head lining panels in the saloon to get to the nuts unless by a miracle they are held/glued in place. Has anyone done this and been able to remove the lining, long covered plywood panels without wrecking it.

Blue Cristal
John Herrmann

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[Jack Vetter]

on our 1991 38s5, there is no headliner.   the deck organizers are bolted into  aluminum plates poured in the fiberglass.  we had to use an easy out on one if i remember right.  headliner sure would have been easier.

jack

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[John Herrmann]

Thanks to all so far. Jack, not sure if good or bad but I think the saloon cabin top on the Moorings is a different design to the 38s5. 

A bit more background.

I replaced the starboard sheave (3 leech controls and mainsail halyard), frame damaged -bent- etc so luckily I was able to replace with a similar design (old stock in an old fashioned chandler) a couple of years ago but I just used 4 bolts the same size, only 2 previously, with heaps of sikaflex screwed into what ever was under the coach roof (they did tighten up real good though) as back then I couldn't work out how to get behind the liner either. So far they have held up ok and any tension is very horizontal.

Unfortunately the port side is more complicated as I have added 2 reef lines back to the cockpit (to save the aging legs having to go to the mast gooseneck's horns for reefing of the luff) and a Cunningham to the original single (sheave needs replacing anyway) mainsheet line.

My intention here is to replace all my 'dodgy' add-on blocks and single sheave with a double stack 2 sheave ball bearing Garhauer or similar. The deck is 'smooth' in this area hopefully large enough for a 2 block organiser unlike the starboard side which is smooth over a larger area e, enough to cater for the 4 block. The main tension will be taken by the original outer bolt. If the nut underneath was secured, that would be make things easier but I don't think I could be that lucky hence needing to drop the liner to replace the nut and check enough support for the 2nd bold especially as the port side has the mainsheet line, albeit again a very horizontal deflection from the blocks at the base of the mast.

In summary, no easy way out, the liner has to come down, somehow, to avoid doing any more 'dodgy' screw in bolts.

[pgsealevel]

John, you may have discovered this already, but I thought I would post anyway.... 

I have the same year and model boat.   The main cabin plywood ceiling panels are screwed up into the fiberglass cabin top.   The screws are hidden underneath the fore-and-aft narrow wood strips.   Mine are about 1/2 inch wide, a teak color.  Those strips are held up by velcro running their entire length.   Pull them down carefully, starting at one end or the other.   After that you have access to the screws holding the plywood panels up.   Good luck with the organizer update!

Paul Goodman

1991 Beneteau Moorings 38

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