Re: {Beneteau Owners} Shattered oven door glass

[Ski...@aol.com]

 

 

We have an Eno 4 burner stove with oven and broiler.   The other day we were doing some baking.  Took the

food out of the oven but inadvertently left the oven on.  Within 20 minutes the inner glass of the oven door shattered.   Anyone have this problem. 

 

I'm on a sailing trip in Maine so it's hard to research this.  I did get on the Eno service web site but did not find my model number. (Table Cooker  0243-81)  Anyone know of any Eno dealers in the States or a better way to get in touch with Eno?  Dave, Nereus V

[Rick Donovan]

Dave

I am not sure where you are in Maine at the moment but Wayfarer Marine in Camden, on the inner harbor, may possibly be able to help you out. they tend to cater to large yachts and I would expect that they may have the service department personnel to have dealt with something like this before. their web site is   http://www.wayfarermarine.com/

give them a shot to see if they can help or provide some other advice on repair or replacement.

Hamilton Marine is another marine supplier that may be of some help. they have stores along the coast as well. they can be a bit difficult to deal with because they tend to be old school Mainer's, but I have seen stove tops and ovens in stock at their store in Portland before. I don't recall a specific brand they sell.  their web site is   http://www.hamiltonmarine.com/

Rick Donovan

Biddeford, Maine

[ski...@aol.com]

Hi Rick, thanks.  We left Camden a few days ago.  Have had a blast.   Hit Monhegan Island, Tennants Hbr, Camden, Dark Harbor (Ames Cove) in Islesbor Is, Castine, Rockland and are presently in Boothbay.  Sailing thru Leadbetter Narrows was a real treat down to Huricane Is.  Also stopped for lunch at New Hbr.  This is roughtly our 10rh trip to Maine and the best weather to date altough we were in heavy fog all day.  Great time.  We set sail tomorrow, Fri, at 0530 for MTP.   We should be in Montauk, NY by noon on Sat.  I still have not heard from Eno in France.  Enjoy, Dave Nereus V
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[Berni - Intersessions]

Dave, we have the same stove/oven, and have not had a problem.  Of course, I threaten to have anybody who messes up my galley walk the plank, which is surely the reason for the pristine galley (I'm really scary).....

Berni

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[Berni - Intersessions]

We had to have the fuel pump on the generator replaced, and some of the oil leaked into the bilge.  Jeff has pumped out/sopped up as much as he can, but could not get it all, and the smell is awful.  Any ideas on how to neutralize it?

Berni

S/V Avalon

[Mark J Wilme.]

My grandfather used to say a saucer of milk would absorb smells but those were fridge type odors, not sure about oil.

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Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Diesel fumes from the bilge

We had to have the fuel pump on the generator replaced, and some of the oil leaked into the bilge.  Jeff has pumped out/sopped up as much as he can, but could not get it all, and the smell is awful.  Any ideas on how to neutralize it?

Berni

S/V Avalon

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[Rick Donovan]

On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Berni - Intersessions wrote:

 Any ideas on how to neutralize it?

we had a similar problem because someone didn't get the fuel filter assembled right. I won't leak the name, lol.

I also tried to clean up as best I could but still had a smell. my method was to mix some Dawn dish soap in about 2 gallons of hot water and dump it slowly near where the fuel had started dripping. my thinking was that the soapy water would follow the same path as the diesel. it worked for me.

Rick Donovan

Biddeford, Maine

[Berni - Intersessions]

Ah, a great idea.  We will try that!

Thanks!

Berni

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[ca...@aol.com]

Our AC has died and life is grim. It's been on a down hill slide for the last few weeks, and I have tried fixing it ... but it has turned belly up.

 

Here is the deal:

 

The unit turns off due to Hi Prs ... High pressure ... The cause is lack of flow of water or excess coolant in the system. We don't think the latter applies because it has worked OK since leaving Brunswick in May when it was last serviced.

 

We have flushed out the pipes (back flush and front flush), cleaned the filter, removed the impeller (clean as a whistle), blasted more water through the system, and it still shuts off.

When in Brunswick we were told that having a bromine tablet in the filter basket will keep the system clean. We add a tablet about once per week (when ever we ingest a jelly fish) and the crud seems to be clearing out.

 

Whenever we blast dock water through the system a bunch of black/green crud is washed out of the pipes. But it now shuts off when we turn it on ... Hi Pres is the diagnosis. I think the pump has died (again).

 

We run this device almost daily and have done so for the last three years. I deserves to die, eh? The Pump I mean. So, I'm ready to get a new pump.

 

Any suggestions? I can't figure out the problem because when the pump turns on there is lots of flow through the bleed valve, and water (city pressure water @ 40PSI or so) blasts out the exit ports. The impeller is clear, the pump seems to work, but it isn't enough to keep the A/C running.

 

On Monday I'm having Mike Latham check things out. He is highly regarded, so I hope he will have a solution. I'll keep the List posted as this problem moves toward resolution, but suggestions are appreciated.

 

Cap in MD

[Jeffrey]

If it is the pump get March pump, they are the best and do not die. Have ours on since 1996 24/7.  No issues.

 

Jeffrey Schwartz

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[Eduardo Richiusa]

I had the same problem, (HI Pres alarm),  after cleaning the system, purged and back rinsed with Phosphoric acid (PH .5), still had the problem. I called the local distributor and made me a recommendation, to measure low and high  gas pressure.
To make the story short, was the high pressure sensor, it cost $ 20 in the Local Frigocenter.
So far, sporadically  have the alarm due to low water flow.

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Subject: RE: {Beneteau Owners} Air Conditioner Problems

[John and Barbara Locke]

Cap:  Do both units fail the same way?  A pump problem should cause both units to fail.  Do you have good flow coming out of the two hull over boards?  Do you have condensators installed.

 

John

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Agreed. March pumps are the best for this application. The engineering differences are significant. Other pumps got replaced every 1 or 2 years.

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Cap,

 

Mike Latham is a good guy with the A/C, he replace my unit.  As far as a pump, hands down a Cal Pump.  This is a Stainless Steel pump that can get wet.   It's completely sealed.   Your looking for 500 gph pump.  Ebay is a good place unless you need it fast West does sell them.

 

Flagship Marine in Florida uses the Cal Pump with their unit.  The March and others die to soon.  FloJet is another good pump.   I use their pump for the deck wash and water system.

 

 

Jeff

Jeffrey C. Taylor, Past Commodore 2006-2008
Club Beneteau Chesapeake Bay
1783 Forest Drive, Box#296

Annapolis, MD 21401

"Greatness Is Not In Where We Stand, But In What Direction We Are Moving.We Must Sail Sometimes With The Wind And Sometimes Against It---But Sail We Must, And Not Drift, Nor Lie At Anchor"



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[mos...@aol.com]

Cap --

Don't think that this will help specifically with your problem, but if/when you replace your pump, you might want to consider installing a larger intake filter.  Until this year we've had constant HP events due to jellyfish, grass, etc on the Bay.  We installed a filter about twice the size than the original, and happy to say, virtually no HP events due to clogging and much better water flow through the system.

Regards,

Mark
Alkenjibarii, B473
Edgewater, MD

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[Jeffrey]

What specific filter strainer basket did you have and which model / brand did you switch too?  How many Ac units, and what size are they, also what size model pump or g/p/h.

 

Jeffrey Schwartz

[mos...@aol.com]

Jeff -

we had been using the same strainer -- fairly certain it is shureflo - that is used throughout our boat's water system. We switched to a Groco ARG series with very modest modification to the hoses, and did not change out the pump. It was a pretty simple effort.  I don't remember what size we installed, but can check next time when on the boat. We have two A/C units.

Mark
Alkenjibarii
B473
Edgewater, MD

[Jeffrey]

Mark it is not important I was only curious…I also have the Groco ARG 1000 with 1” in/out hoses.  I seem to have to clean it weekly to every two weeks here in South FL / Biscayne Bay in the summer as it runs all the time sitting at the dock… I would not think the Shureflo could ever keep up.

[ca...@aol.com]

Whoo HOO ... It was the pump. Just replaced it and we have mucho flow, aire frio y equipo contento (that's a happy crew, I think). It cost ~$500 and was easy to change out, as was the case last time.

 

I am wondering if anyone has tried to rebuild the pump motor. The actual pump head looks good on the old unit, so having a rebuild for a spare would be great.

Cool Cap in Edgewater

[Sail...@aol.com]

Cap........At $500 for a pump, can I assume you installed a 2HP jet pump?  Or was the pump gold plated?   I got it, you told Linda is was $500 and then had to take advantage of the West Marine shoe and foulie sale! lol 

 

Jeff



Jeffrey C. Taylor, Past Commodore 2006-2008
Club Beneteau Chesapeake Bay
1783 Forest Drive, Box#296

[Jon Meek]

Cap - Is there a verdict on the Bromine tablets? They sound like a
good idea, and it is hard to see how they could have damaged the pump
motor (unless the gunk jammed the impeller part of the time (but most
gunk is downstream of the pump of course), or something else weird).

I was going to get some of the tablets after you first announced your
trial but have not found any yet. Since you recently mentioned that
they might have been the downfall, I was waiting to see how everything
came out.

Thanks,

Jon

[ca...@aol.com]

The guys at Annapolis Cruisaire recommended cholorine tablets and said they have no problem with the bromine. They do have a problem with acid treatments and refuse to do it. In their experience the acid ruins the coils. They replace a number of units every year that have had acid treatments in FL.

 

They think that the hot water helps precipitate minerals on the sea water coils. I don't know that answer to that one, but suspect that the folks in Brunswick have it right. Keep the bromine cranking through the system and life is good.

 

I bought our bromine tablets at Home Depot in the pool/spa department. They are in a plastic container that I keep in the bilge next to the pump. We are going to clean the filter and replace the bromine weekly.

 

Cap in MD

[JoeT]

My AC kept shutting off due to High Pressure trip. I had good water
flow, clean air filters etc & suspected freon problems. When the
Cruisair service guy checked it out he found that the pressure switch
was worn out and was tripping at much lower pressure than it was
suppose to. The cause of the failure is having it trip too many times
for real, then it gets weak and trips prematurely, which makes it even
weaker... It took about 30-min for him to replace the switch and all
is well no. Moral to the story is to keep the strainer clean so it
doesn't trip the HP to start with. I'm seriously considering up-sizing
the strainer to help reduce the cleaning frequecy.

JoeT
Regina del Seni, B343

On Aug 23, 5:57 am, mos...@aol.com wrote:
> Cap --
>
> Don't think that this will help specifically with your problem, but if/when you replace your pump, you might want to consider installing a larger intake filter.  Until this year we've had constant HP events due to jellyfish, grass, etc on the Bay.  We installed a filter about twice the size than the original, and happy to say, virtually no HP events due to clogging and much better water flow through the system.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
> Alkenjibarii, B473
> Edgewater, MD-----Original Message-----

> From: c...@aol.com

> To: benetea...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sat, Aug 21, 2010 10:23 pm
> Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Air Conditioner Problems
>
> Our AC has died and life is grim. It's been on a down hill slide for the last few weeks, and I have tried fixing it ... but it has turned belly up.
>
> Here is the deal:
>
> The unit turns off due to Hi Prs ... High pressure ... The cause is lack of flow of water or excess coolant in the system. We don't think the latter applies because it has worked OK since leaving Brunswick in May when it was last serviced.
>
> We have flushed out the pipes (back flush and front flush), cleaned the filter, removed the impeller (clean as a whistle), blasted more water through the system, and it still shuts off.
> When in Brunswick we were told that having a bromine tablet in the filter basket will keep the system clean. We add a tablet about once per week (when ever we ingest a jelly fish) and the crud seems to be clearing out.
>
> Whenever we blast dock water through the system a bunch of black/green crud is washed out of the pipes. But it now shuts off when we turn it on ... Hi Pres is the diagnosis. I think the pump has died (again).
>
> We run this device almost daily and have done so for the last three years. I deserves to die, eh? The Pump I mean. So, I'm ready to get a new pump.
>
> Any suggestions? I can't figure out the problem because when the pump turns on there is lots of flow through the bleed valve, and water (city pressure water @ 40PSI or so) blasts out the exit ports. The impeller is clear, the pump seems to work, but it isn't enough to keep the A/C running.
>
> On Monday I'm having Mike Latham check things out. He is highly regarded, so I hope he will have a solution. I'll keep the List posted as this problem moves toward resolution, but suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Cap in MD
>
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[Guy]

Here in east central fl, on the ICW, critters growth is fast and causes many
problems.

I have two filters on my A/C. A groco 750 primary with plastic strainer and
a smaller jabsco mesh strainer (not the smallest).

I rarely get shutdowns. I do have hard growth in the hoses and have
replaced them a few years back.

I sometimes loose the prime if I sail in heavy wx with teh inlet seacock
open. I back flush at the exit hose and all is good; this also cleans the
system.

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The new pump is running like a champ ... The only problem is that it's cool enough not to need it. Did I say problem?

 

I checked out rebuilding the pump motor, but you can economically rebuild DC motors only, not AC. Durn! I checked getting the 'dry side' only (motor), but they don't offer it. They do offer the 'wet' side but it seems both sides wear out in about the same number of hours. I thought about replacing the 1,000 gph unit with another pump but everything fits the original motor so I am sticking with it.

 

Re the filter size, I'll touch bases with AYS to see what they suggest and share with the list. There isn't much clearance for a much bigger filter so I'll just see what I can find. The idea of relocating the filter is not appealing.

Cap in MD

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