B 411 Water Leaks
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Dennis
Oct 19, 2009, 4:41:35 PM10/19/09
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I have a 1999 411 and have raced it to Hawaii four times, bringing the
boat back. In the last couple of years it has developed water leaks in
the forward cabin, port side, forward cabin starboard side, and
starboard side mid-ship main salon, and starboard side sail locker or
lazarette. The water appears to be coming from underneath the toe
rail where the deck meets the hull. I recently was on another 1999
411 who told me they too were experiencing the same types of leaks
from the same areas. Anyone having a 411 or teak toe rail
experiencing these kinds of water leaks and have any remedies?
Beneteau in South Carolina tells me they've had NO warranty issues
over toe rail water leaks.
Thank you.
Dennis Ronk
"Bequia"
I have a 1999 411 and have raced it to Hawaii four times, bringing the
boat back. In the last couple of years it has developed water leaks in
the forward cabin, port side, forward cabin starboard side, and
starboard side mid-ship main salon, and starboard side sail locker or
lazarette. The water appears to be coming from underneath the toe
rail where the deck meets the hull. I recently was on another 1999
411 who told me they too were experiencing the same types of leaks
from the same areas. Anyone having a 411 or teak toe rail
experiencing these kinds of water leaks and have any remedies?
Beneteau in South Carolina tells me they've had NO warranty issues
over toe rail water leaks.
Thank you.
Dennis Ronk
"Bequia"
Bill Jarvis
Oct 19, 2009, 5:16:23 PM10/19/09
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Dennis,
When I started to get some minor leaks around the boat, it was a little over
10 years old, I re-bedded ALL the hatches. Five years later and no further
leaks.
The job took just about one day to do them all.
Bill
When I started to get some minor leaks around the boat, it was a little over
10 years old, I re-bedded ALL the hatches. Five years later and no further
leaks.
The job took just about one day to do them all.
Bill
Merrill Mant
Oct 19, 2009, 6:25:38 PM10/19/09
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Dennis,
Ambition has also suffered from leak symtoms as you describe. I have spent hours chasing them down as the boat never leaks under just rainfall - only when taking water over the deck. As a test I cleaned out and re-caulked the inside of one toe rail and the leaking reduced dramatically. My project list now includes doing the remaining three sides of the teak toe rails. I will also remove and rebed all stantions as a few are also leaking.
The other item that I found problematic is that I discovered many of the screws holding the deck hatches in place were loose and about 8 screws actually were stripped in the fiberglass. I a plan to pull all hatches and rebed them in the deck - not looking forward to that job!
Merrill Mant
s/v Ambition 2000 B411 #155
www.synergymarine.com
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:41:35 -0700
Ambition has also suffered from leak symtoms as you describe. I have spent hours chasing them down as the boat never leaks under just rainfall - only when taking water over the deck. As a test I cleaned out and re-caulked the inside of one toe rail and the leaking reduced dramatically. My project list now includes doing the remaining three sides of the teak toe rails. I will also remove and rebed all stantions as a few are also leaking.
The other item that I found problematic is that I discovered many of the screws holding the deck hatches in place were loose and about 8 screws actually were stripped in the fiberglass. I a plan to pull all hatches and rebed them in the deck - not looking forward to that job!
Merrill Mant
s/v Ambition 2000 B411 #155
www.synergymarine.com
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:41:35 -0700
> Subject: {Beneteau Owners} B 411 Water Leaks
Skip Ryan
Oct 20, 2009, 9:30:33 PM10/20/09
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Beneteau in South Carolina tells me they've had NO warranty issues over toe
rail water leaks.
It's because it was out of warranty.
I went through similar with a 1988 OC390 with a metal toerail. Had to pull
out the hull liner (wood), nearby vinyl headliner and pull the rail off and
rebed the hull to deck joint and reinstall the rail. Fun.
Skip
tom
Oct 22, 2009, 10:17:04 AM10/22/09
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I have a 2000 411 and experienced the same problem. First rebedded
all the stanchions with no sucess. I finally had the toes rails
removed and rebedded. I was concerned that I might have to purchase
new toe rails if the wood split when they were removed but that was
not an issue. I have a great yard and they let me help with their
removal andl rebedding. It fixed the problem and I have not had a
problem since. I took a close look at the hull deck joint while the
toe rail was removed and it was in good shape with no areas of
separation. The screws that hold the deck and hull together under the
toe rail were in good shape also. The only other place water could be
coming through were the screws used to attach the toe rail. After
taking a close look at were water was leaking in relative to these
screws I am sure that was the source of the leaks. Short of rebedding
the entire toe rail, you might want to try rebedding all the toe rail
attachment screws. We used 3M 4000 for all the rebedding.
all the stanchions with no sucess. I finally had the toes rails
removed and rebedded. I was concerned that I might have to purchase
new toe rails if the wood split when they were removed but that was
not an issue. I have a great yard and they let me help with their
removal andl rebedding. It fixed the problem and I have not had a
problem since. I took a close look at the hull deck joint while the
toe rail was removed and it was in good shape with no areas of
separation. The screws that hold the deck and hull together under the
toe rail were in good shape also. The only other place water could be
coming through were the screws used to attach the toe rail. After
taking a close look at were water was leaking in relative to these
screws I am sure that was the source of the leaks. Short of rebedding
the entire toe rail, you might want to try rebedding all the toe rail
attachment screws. We used 3M 4000 for all the rebedding.
Dennis
Oct 22, 2009, 3:08:17 PM10/22/09
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Tom,
Thank you very much. Your in put was very helpful. I have started re-
bedding the toe rail screws.
Dennis
Thank you very much. Your in put was very helpful. I have started re-
bedding the toe rail screws.
Dennis
tom
Oct 22, 2009, 4:05:33 PM10/22/09
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Glad I could help. Let me know if that fixed the problem.
Tom
Dennis
Oct 23, 2009, 1:15:15 PM10/23/09
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Tom,
Will do.
Thanks,
Dennis
Will do.
Thanks,
Dennis
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