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bill wagner

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:05:12 PM9/10/12
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It's Davits I am thinking about. The automatic spell checker got me.
Anyway, any suggestions about products ( Cato, Garhauer etc). Also, are there any drawbacks to installing davits?

Bill

sean

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:22:16 PM9/10/12
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Bill,

Not sure exactly where you are or what model you have but have been Very pleased with the Arch we installed from Kato (http://www.katomarine.com/sailarches-price.htm). WHile they are not the cheapest solution, they remove all sorts of "what-not" from the deck, railings etc... and essentially get it up out of your way where you cannot hurt it, and your forget about it. Ours now holds GPS Mushrooms, Wifi slurp/booster from Land-Sea a Stern light that is worth the price alone, and a big Worklight for when we are loading folks on at night etc... Soon it may grow a few Solar panels. All this while acting as home to our dink on 6x Pulley lifts and an engine lift that makes it MUCH easier to swing the engine from dink to an Edson board on the back rail.

The crew of course views it as integral diving platform for swim breaks. All in all, davits cannot compare to the utility of an Arch IMHO.

Sean

Bill Jarvis

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:39:10 PM9/10/12
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I guess it depends on your boat usage.

 

For local  inshore work I tow my dinghy. For offshore I believe it has to be on deck. Others will surely disagree. There is no absolute right and wrong.

 

My reasons are that for inshore travel I don’t see a great need and I am concerned that having the dinghy hanging off the back invites the possibility of inadvertently filling with water. I’m also concerned about having the dink hanging out in the fairway in a marina and possibly creating a danger.

 

Offshore I don’t want the dink being towed or on davits. Bad weight distribution and a concern about following seas.

 

If you decide davits are for you then please be sure to have plenty of reinforcement at all the various mounting points.

 

BTW Kato makes wonderful quality work.

 

Bill

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bill wagner

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Sep 10, 2012, 3:40:42 PM9/10/12
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Sean,

We have an Oceanis 440 and I thought about an arch but it is much more then we want to spend. We are just looking for something that makes it easier to deal with a dink and motor, especially the motor.

Bill

Shelley Won

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Sep 10, 2012, 4:23:25 PM9/10/12
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We had Kato davits on our 37 Beneteau.  The one thing we really missed was being able to get off the boat from the stern when slipped.  On our Oceanis 50, we keep the dinghy on the bow & installed a st. croix little crane on the stern to lift the motor onto the mount.

Very happy with how it worked out.

Shelley (knotta yachta 2)

David Mackintosh

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Sep 10, 2012, 5:54:54 PM9/10/12
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FIRST

what boat

THEN

what dinghy

THEN

where do you sail

Then you might get a sensible reply...........of course this is the WWW ;-)

Yes we have towed a AB Navigo 12VS heavy rib all over the Caribbean for 7 years now without any issues at all.  It was far too big and heavy for any cheap Davits and the Simpson Davits Series 8 (the only ones i would recommend) that i have for Highland Fling are here in Bonnie Scotland sadly the cost of shipping them out to her are prohibitively expensive.  The RIB is or WAS too big to go on deck as we have an inner forestay. Doubly sadly the RIB was stolen along with the outboard this May in St Martin.  Very kindly we were gifted a Zodiac 310R PVC RIB it is very very light and sits on the deck easily  Triple sadly the tubes are detached from the GRP RIB hull in places so it leaks (water in not air out) so we have some work to do on it when we get to Highland Fling.

regards

David


Bill

David Mackintosh

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Sep 10, 2012, 6:06:30 PM9/10/12
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IF the issue is lifting the outboard get a Forespar Motor Mate

http://www.forespar.com/products/boat-motor-mate-lift.shtml

We are both in our mid sixties and love that bit of kit.

We are thinking about an Arch (though  tis down the list of things to add ATM)  In SXM a custom made one by a South African S/S Wizard (the guy who made a beautiful job of making my hand hold/hoop to protect the E120 in the swiveling Navpod)  His  arch is half the price of the best one made in the USA at under $4000 but would prob end up being more once i add all the extras i would want.

regards

David

Cap Munday

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Sep 10, 2012, 9:19:59 PM9/10/12
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We love our standard Beneteau Radar arch/davits. When on a mooring I lift the dink when ever I get back to the boat and lock it when on the davit at night when in FL. Actually anywhere south of NC. South of VA? MD?

OK. Davits are most super when you are on the hook/mooring because you don't have to worry about growth or theft. A hanging dink is less likely to be a target, me thinks. 

Out in the ocean, what little we do, I haul it up to the max. We have never seen rude waves threaten it, but we have never been in those kind of rude waves, so this comment is worthless. If we were to head off shore the dink would live on the bow and motor would be on the pushpit rail. 

Cap Munday
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Sep 12, 2012, 6:26:04 PM9/12/12
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On 9/10/2012 3:40 PM, bill wagner wrote:

> We have an Oceanis 440 and I thought about an arch but it
> is much more then we want to spend. We are just looking for
> something that makes it easier to deal with a dink and motor,
> especially the motor.

Party because of the dollar costs savings but mostly because of a desire
for comparative ease of collapsability when not in use yet for easy
on/off use but with more than merely adequate structural strength to
support a dinghy with its motor when being used for that purpose, a
friend with a 34' Catalina bought two Garhauer motor lifting hoists (not
the Garhauer dinghy davits) but with brackets Garhauer slightly modified
in length to function as if prebuilt davit set and he and his wife (in
areas I have the impression are similar to where/what you do) swear by
them. (Had I known you were interested in this when your boat was
being repaired on the hard, I would have pointed their boat out to you
since they winter at the same facility.) Anyway, you might want to
look at the Garhauer catalog and speak with them.

Sailrjohn

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Sep 13, 2012, 10:15:30 AM9/13/12
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Bill
 
Installed Garhauer davits on our OC 351 this summer.  They make each set custom for your boat, which was great for being able to get the height and width for solar panels to be not shaded by the bemini, and still able to go and come thru the transom when the ding is not hanging.  I can get under the ding, but the first mate prefers the sides. 
Garhaurer was great to work with and even sent additional lateral supports at no charge.  Moved the GPS and WIFI antennas to the davits, also.  Call Mark at Gauhauer if you have any questions.
 
Johnny

bumatsea

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Sep 13, 2012, 10:32:13 AM9/13/12
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could you post photos of your installation? 

Jodi Shorrock

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Sep 13, 2012, 9:13:01 PM9/13/12
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We added davits which incorporate radar pole and motor lift. Made by Atkins and Hoyle Ontario, Canada. They are at the Toronto Boat Show in January or on the web. Added double braces to each pole and had braces welded.

 

Jodi and Wayne

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robert bottinelli

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Sep 13, 2012, 10:38:13 AM9/13/12
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If you search the site, you can find detailed photos I took of my Garhauer installation on our B361.
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