Oceanis 423 - Forward Cabin

[Matt Lynch]

I was just looking at 423s on Yachtworld and I see a lot of cleverly-staged pillows on the forward berth, suggesting that it is a true island berth, as opposed to a glorified v-berth.  The difference (at least as I am using the terms) is that an island berth allows you to sleep head-forward, as opposed to having to climb in feet first.  However, I also see that there is a cutout at the bow of the boat which was probably intended for one's feet to fit into.  Do you 423 owners sleep head-forward or feet-forward in that berth?  I'm 5'10" and my wife 5'5", fwiw.  We don't like v-berths because it squishes our feet together and she kicks me all night.  Thanks!

[Donald_Smith]

The notion that one would put one's feet in the forward storage compartment is novel.  A v-berth by design will bring together certain parts of the occupants bodies.  You decide whether it's feet or heads.   

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Matt Lynch <las...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was just looking at 423s on Yachtworld and I see a lot of cleverly-staged pillows on the forward berth, suggesting that it is a true island berth, as opposed to a glorified v-berth.  The difference (at least as I am using the terms) is that an island berth allows you to sleep head-forward, as opposed to having to climb in feet first.  However, I also see that there is a cutout at the bow of the boat which was probably intended for one's feet to fit into.  Do you 423 owners sleep head-forward or feet-forward in that berth?  I'm 5'10" and my wife 5'5", fwiw.  We don't like v-berths because it squishes our feet together and she kicks me all night.  Thanks!

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[petti...@bigpond.com.au]

"Forward Cabin"

 

We have a somewhat slightly larger "V" Berth on our 473 and when we first launched her we were surprised to find the reading lights set up for the feet forward and had the dealer install reading light so we could sit up in bed and have our backs against the forward bulk head.

 

For safety's sake it was explained by the dealer that you should never sleep on a yacht that is under passage with your head facing forward in case you hit something feet first so as to avoid a head or neck injury, makes sense unless at anchor.

 

Martin Pettit B473  Mon Jouet

[David Mackintosh]

GOSH  and BUGGER WUGGER so all these years when i have slept on passage i did it wrong............ OWELL

The world is going (has gone) totally mad..............soon we will see an elf&safety leaflet issued by Beneteau and CE certification for berths PLUS training with a certificate after three nights at sea and >500 miles sailed on how to sleep on passage.

Who in their right mind would sleep on passage in a forward berth unless the boat was motoring quite slowly and in flat calm seas.

On passage one should sleep with ones head as close as possible to the CoG and CoB of the boat - dependent on the boat and where you decide to sleep that might be head forward OR feet forward.  Few modern Bennies have 'great sea berths'  so for 'just' an overnight passage and the need for one of us to have a three or four hour 'snooze' we find the floor in the saloon with a berth cushion on it the best spot for a restful sleep.  Head forward or back depends on where we put that berth cushion the weather of course influences that BUT we try to be on a broad reach for most of our longer inter island passages a fetch at worst and of course a very very broad reach gybing downwind  rather than  DDW running when we are going west. We are cruisng with few real deadlines so we try hard to never be out for more than an hour or three in winds over 25 knots and on an overnight passage would be looking for 12/16 knots TWS if going upwind and no more than 18/22 knots TWS even if going downwind - cruising in company brings it own challenges as other boats and other skippers and crews have different views and needs on these matters.

regards

David

[Cap Munday]

Right on, David!

Our 473 was set up for heads forward. Of course, I would be a total idiot to sleep there while under way in any but the most benign conditions. I have gone forward in gnarly seas to use the head, and I figure I could go airborne if I was attempting to snooze in that berth. 

The few times we have been overnight, we jam pillows between the table and our selves so Linda sleeps head aft on the settee. Comfy, but seas were <5' with breeze <20 and us on a beam reach. 

Cap Munday

S/V Zydeco

Beneteau 473