RE: {Beneteau Owners} Perkins Engine

[Dan....@carrier.utc.com]

4500 rpm

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Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2007 10:12
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Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Perkins Engine

Anyone know the max RPM of a Perkins Prima M80T?

Bill

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[bbigd...@aol.com]

Dan,

Where did you get that info? It isn't in the manuals that I have.

I was told by previous owner to run at max of 2800.

Thanks,

Bill

[bbigd...@aol.com]

Dan,

Where did you get that info? It isn't in the manuals that I have.

I was told by previous owner to run at max of 2800.

Thanks,

Bill

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Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 9:21 pm
Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Re: Perkins Engine

[Dan Gingras]

That what I run my M80 at also.  Usually cruise around 2600

 

Dan

 

 

Capt Dan Gingras

O461 LIONHEART

Portsmouth NH

www.daniel.gingras.net

[Dan....@carrier.utc.com]

Bill,

 

I found it at

 

http://www.secodi.fr/perkins/eng/pages/parts/show_engine.asp?moteurid=409&serieid=28&moteurtype=

 

They also have my M50 on that site with the correct max rpm of 3000 and the M60 with the correct rpm of 4000.

 

But it does sound a bit high, I have to admit.

 

Regards,

Dan

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Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:56

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Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Re: Perkins Engine

[Force Majeure]

The max rpm is indeed 4500 rpm, but max torque is developed around
2,400 rpm, so cruising somewhere in the ranges quoted above is typical
and consistent with the curves. The torque curve is maxed out and
pretty flat between 2,200 and 2,600rpm at about 160 Nm (118 pounds-
feet), but then falls off quickly to 122 Nm by 4,500 rpm. Torque at
3,500 is the same as it is at 1,500. Fuel consumption should be about
1.25 US gallons per hour at a 2,400 cruise rpm.

The M80T and other Primas are direct injected diesels that were
originally conceived as automotive engines, and have roots in the O-
series Rover petrol engine. The Prima series were a cooperative
effort between Rover, Perkins, and the British Gov't, and were found
in the Maestro and Montego vehicles as well as other land-based
vehicles like fork-trucks, etc. Cars, trucks, etc, are able to take
much better advantage of the high-rev range and make better use of the
powerband. It still is well suited as a marine engine because of its
light-weight, quite running, and the good fuel economy...all the
result of the engine's direct injection and turbo technology.

Jeff

On Oct 30, 9:05 pm, Dan.Ba...@carrier.utc.com wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I found it at
>

> http://www.secodi.fr/perkins/eng/pages/parts/show_engine.asp?moteurid...
> <http://www.secodi.fr/perkins/eng/pages/parts/show_engine.asp?moteurid...
> erieid=28&moteurtype> &serieid=28&moteurtype=

>
> They also have my M50 on that site with the correct max rpm of 3000 and the
> M60 with the correct rpm of 4000.
>
> But it does sound a bit high, I have to admit.
>
> Regards,
> Dan
>
> _____
>

> From: Benetea...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:Benetea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bbigduke...@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:56
> To: Benetea...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Re: Perkins Engine
>
> Dan,
>
> Where did you get that info? It isn't in the manuals that I have.
>
> I was told by previous owner to run at max of 2800.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan.Ba...@carrier.utc.com
> To: Benetea...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 9:21 pm
> Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Re: Perkins Engine
>
> 4500 rpm
>
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> Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Perkins Engine
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> Anyone know the max RPM of a Perkins Prima M80T?
>
> Bill
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[feasbysmith]

Jeff - Can you post the engine curves if you have them?

Frank

[bbigd...@aol.com]

Perkin's technical staff informed me that the RPM for a M80T is in fact 4500rpm at 78bhp.

Bill

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[Michael Roper]

Originally they were tractor engines .Tough and full of leaks.
Where may I obtain this graph as the local dealer cannot supply same
Mike Roper

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From: Benetea...@googlegroups.com
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Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 3:27 AM
To: Beneteau Owners

[Force Majeure]

Mike, all of the the Primas started as auto engines. All the BA, BB,
4.20 and 500 Series "Prima" engines assembled by Perkins and marketed
as Detroit Diesel (as well as Volvo) are based on the O-series British
Leyland (Austin Rover Group) gas engine. You may be thinking of a
different series, or perhaps Perkins engines in general.

I can't find an electronic copy of my M80T curves, but will post the
Volvo curves, which are identical. The Volvo version is the same
motor, but has some different marinizing items as well as a oil pump
casting that was only used on very late Perkins verions.

BTW, as Dan Gingras and I found out recently, the Volvo exhaust water
injection connector is MUCH cheaper than the Perkins, is available
online, and is made out of cast iron as opposed to zinc pot-metal
recycled from 70's era Chevy Monza side-view mirrors.

Jeff

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[Michael Roper]

Jeff
I am probably thinking pre WW11