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Allen Dick

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Feb 24, 2021, 6:51:14 PM2/24/21
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I am down to my last companionway key for my 1994 Oceanis 351.  I went to three places here in La Paz and nobody had a blank. Seems to be unique.

Has anyone a source or should I try Beneteau?
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Ken Rait

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Feb 24, 2021, 7:06:19 PM2/24/21
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Allen,
There was a discussion on a Facebook forum on this topic.  Though it is unwieldy, I am pasting that dialogue below and perhaps there is a nugget of something useful for you there--

  • I had no key and gave it to the locksmith, he was waiting to go the wholesale and he got one and only cost me £10 including cutting it to match
  • Helps to know where you are, Paul's locksmith in Barrie Ontario has them.
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  • You can find them on line. What make is the key? Usually stamped on it.
  • I have been to 2 locksmiths and they can’t find a blank either. I will check out the guy in Barrie too.
  • If there’s a number printed on the key, search eBay ! I bought 5 blanks for very little on eBay.
  • Our local locksmith (Surelock Homes in Bartie) marched mine with a gas cap key and it works great
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    I checked the key, googled the number on the key and found a key identification site.
    May be an image of text that says '6:26 Ico.us Eilco ECo con . DACKurInS ale alowea. CIS2 Lookup Blank KREATE AKEY Powered by Kreate-A- Key™ Search Results Manufacturer IIco Blank Profile Blank Silca CIS2 Ilco, IIco EZ are registered trademarks of Kaba IIco Corp. ILCO EZ Search is copyright Kaba IIco Corp.'
  • May be an image of text that says 'CIS2'
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    Thanks for all of your comments and ideas
  • I got my spare blanks from Beneteau for a 1986 First305. Then local locksmith cut it.
  • My locksmith found one. Was the best in the twin cities. He stared at the key for a minutes, and then said ‘French elevator’?? I said ‘way closer guess than I expected’. He dug through his blanks and found it.
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  • Hah! I had same issue when in Seattle area. Turns out my blanks are Italian. It took awhile but my dealership - Signature Yachts - got new ones to me.
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  • I took the lock to the locksmith. He had to order blanks, it took a couple days and we now have keys everywhere!
  • They are tough to find, but we found one at a locksmith.
  • I had to visit a few locksmiths earlier this summer for the same... the third one finally said he could get them but it would take a few days... I think he ordered a box of 10 blanks from eBay or Amazon, or somewhere, and a few days later I got a new … 
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  • The blank is Y5 or Y6, just made mine.
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  • My locksmith had to order the blanks in but no problem apart from a days delay.
  • Any locksmith should be able to copy that key
    It might look a little different but it’s not a rare key at all
  • Local locksmith made me a couple of spares no problem
  • Go to a professional locksmith.
  • I got the blank key from my boat supply store then took them to an Ace Hardware to get them cut.
  • I went to a local lock smith- took a few trips- but finally had 2 made-
  • Went right to ace hardware. Made 4 keys
  • Go to ACE
  • These keys are “special” so they are more expensive and you need to find the right locksmith. I had 4 or 5 made so I wouldn’t have to deal with it again! LOL!
  • Here's a photo
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    Gary Gingras replied
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  • Beneteau dealer gave me a few blanks and ACE cut em fer me.
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  • Remove the whole lock, bring it to a locksmith they will redo the barrel with a new key.
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    This is my key, I contacted a locksmith who will work with me. Thanks for your input!The numbers on my key are CIS2
    May be an image of text that says 'CIS2'
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  • I had the same, on a bend 473 - the key was an Italian one no one could source unluckily, so I had to buy the whole lock assembly from a contessa 32 supplier - jeremyrogers.co.uk was the site. It is still there. It was easy & cheap to get copies on t… 
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  • we found that an ilco Y54-O997E blank worked for our Beneteau hatch lock
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  • My Beneteau 35s5 didn't come with a key. Any suggestions?
  • We had no keys for our 473 we just bought!!🙄We removed and took the lock in to locksmith who serviced the lock and cut new keys...$30 total. 🤗
  • I once called Beneteau with a similar problem. They directed me to a local locksmith who sold the right key. I also found out that the key is the same for all similar yacht models!
  • We got one cut at the local locksmith. You may want to try again?
  • I contacted our boat broker who was able to get keys for us.
  • Ilco blank #100AM APS
  • A file cabinet key is what I needed.
  • I was told to replace the lock. Ours is too old amd there aren't any blanks that work (1993)
  • I had a similar issue with an MC5 I bought last year. I went our dealer and he got us a blank that a local locksmith cut for us.
  • I am a locksmith myself, the blanks for the Select lock found on lots of our boats is available from many manufacterers. If your local locksmith doesn't stock them, they are easily available. Some makes and reference numbers:
    CEA SC1
    ERREBI SL4PD… 
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    Thanks for the info!
  • Hi guys, from my experience if you are on the American continent it is a challenge to find the key.
    I have been lucky here in Miami with a licensed locksmith that works only with boats and is working off his van between Fort Lauderdale and south Miami… 
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    Update: A local Locksmith has located a blank and is able to order and make keys for me. Thanks for all of your suggestions! 
    A & A Locksmith
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  • Have you tried contacting Beneteau with your hull number and see if they have a copy.

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Frank Reddick

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Feb 24, 2021, 7:58:21 PM2/24/21
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Does the face of your key include a manufacturer?  I recently found blank Ilco keys on eBay. Googled the name of the key manufacturer and matched the blank by eyeballing the image on line. 

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Ken Rait

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Feb 24, 2021, 8:40:42 PM2/24/21
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  • Pulled from a Facebook discussion on the same - good luck
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Jonathan Green

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Feb 25, 2021, 6:45:31 AM2/25/21
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I have a 1996 Oceanis 351 and this blank worked on my lock: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BQWOUW/

r.simoneau

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Feb 25, 2021, 8:08:35 AM2/25/21
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I have two key blank numbers that I have used.  One is the engine the other is the companionway lock.  ILCO A05 Hilman y5.,  or a Y11 or Hilman AP5.  Sorry I don't remember which is the engine.  Looking at the new blank it looks different and has a different grooving on one side but it fits and works. I can verify this weekend.



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Mark J Wilme

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Feb 25, 2021, 8:20:35 AM2/25/21
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I may have one (key blank) for the OC381, I assume same lock, let me look

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RichSail99

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Mar 1, 2021, 8:15:33 AM3/1/21
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My original key was a CAS 264.  I use an ILCO AP5 blank on the companionway

allendick

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Mar 2, 2021, 9:08:47 AM3/2/21
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Thanks to everyone.  I see this is a common problem. 
 
As mentioned, I am in Mexico, and ordering small items by mail can be involve surprises. I went uptown and just kept trying key cutters until I came on an old guy who studied the key, found a  common blank he thought might work, and cut me a key.   It worked.

The shape of the blade is the same but one groove on one side of the blade is wider.  Apparently this does not keep the key from entering the lock.  The bow is oval, not square like the original.   

It seems that the groove being wider did not matter and so I had several cut.  Problem solved.

Silius Rodrigues

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Mar 2, 2021, 7:08:58 PM3/2/21
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Usefull tip Allendick tks

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