6/19 early AM -- messages no come down, no go up..........
FACE
it makes it here it confirms my idea that most NNTP servers have a 'master
list' of newsgroups with some newsgroups that are flagged as 'active' --
or something like that, but if a crosspost is made to a newsgroup 'active'
on that server, then the others are also respected, active or not.........
Since about 6:30 AM, 6/19, the BS server seems to be
unresponsive...............
FACE
FACE
bellsouth.net.support.news-service on Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:21:00 -0400 :
It is responsive now. Dennis, am I correct in the above?
FACE
jen
news:0gjk54945vkgtaqco...@4ax.com...
Yes, if you include a bellsouth.net.* group in your crosspost to a
"universal" group such as "alt.test " from an "outside" server, it will
make it to the BS newsservers. :)
This has been "common knowledge" here for quite some time...
-jen
FACE
19 Jun 2008 09:20:42 -0400 :
In my experience, it applies to any newsgroup in any hierarchy -- try it and
then add that to the "common knowledge". ;-)
FACE
jen
news:6gnk54l2897p6ah5k...@4ax.com...
> From "jen" <j...@example.com>, in bellsouth.net.support.news-service
> on Thu,
> 19 Jun 2008 09:20:42 -0400 :
>>"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
>>news:0gjk54945vkgtaqco...@4ax.com...
>>> This is posted from the cheese server. It does not carry this
>>> group.
>>> If
>>> it makes it here it confirms my idea that most NNTP servers have a
>>> 'master
>>> list' of newsgroups with some newsgroups that are flagged as
>>> 'active' --
>>> or something like that, but if a crosspost is made to a newsgroup
>>> 'active'
>>> on that server, then the others are also respected, active or
>>> not.........
>>> Since about 6:30 AM, 6/19, the BS server seems to be
>>> unresponsive...............
>>Yes, if you include a bellsouth.net.* group in your crosspost to a
>>"universal" group such as "alt.test " from an "outside" server, it
>>will
>>make it to the BS newsservers. :)
>>This has been "common knowledge" here for quite some time...
> it and
> then add that to the "common knowledge". ;-)
You *may* be able to crosspost to a group that is not on your own
server. As long as your server carries at least *one* of the groups
listed in the header, and you make that valid group the *first* in your
newsgroups listing, it *should* accept your post and propagate it (and
all of the header information) on to other servers. If other servers
carry those groups, then pointers to your post will appear in all the
specified newsgroups.
-jen
Robert Miles
For at least some newsgroups servers, that works only if the first
newsgroup on the crosspost list is carried on that server. I got
your message from the BS server.
FACE
Thank you for restating for what I originally said.
>and you make that valid group the *first* in your
>newsgroups listing,
And thank you for outlining what i did.
>it *should* accept your post and propagate it (and
>all of the header information) on to other servers. If other servers
>carry those groups, then pointers to your post will appear in all the
>specified newsgroups.
On this subject, I abjectly stand in awe............
;-)
FACE
>
>-jen
>
FACE
bellsouth.net.support.news-service on Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:40:41 -0500 :
Thanks. I am on the BS server now as the headers show, though headers will
also show that my original message was from the server named "motzarella' --
I just call it the cheese server.
FACE
jen
>>all of the header information) on to other servers. If other servers
>>carry those groups, then pointers to your post will appear in all the
>>specified newsgroups.
> On this subject, I abjectly stand in awe............
> ;-)
I was replying to this statement by you:
"In my experience, it applies to any newsgroup in any hierarchy..."
Read my reply again more slowly... ;)
-jen
FACE
Read?
>
>-jen
>
FACE
time. If it does not make the BS server, it will support Robert's thesis.
FACE
jen
> From "jen" <j...@example.com>, in bellsouth.net.support.news-service
> on Thu,
> 19 Jun 2008 12:18:15 -0400 :
>>"In my experience, it applies to any newsgroup in any hierarchy..."
>>Read my reply again more slowly... ;)
> Read?
Now, you're just being silly :) lol
-jen
FACE
This is posted from the cheese server.
The news servers appear to be dead this morning for the atlanta local
area.
About 5:30 even the Bellsouth email was unreachable.
6:30 Email now active. News servers down.
????
Dennis, if you have the time, please email reply to the username from
trace. At this time, I have no access to messages in this newsgroup.
Thanks,
FACE
jackp...@astraweb.com
>
>This is posted from the cheese server.
>
>The news servers appear to be dead this morning for the atlanta local
>area.
>
>About 5:30 even the Bellsouth email was unreachable.
>
>6:30 Email now active. News servers down.
>
>????
>
<snipped>
>
>Thanks,
>
>FACE
I am accessing this newsgroup though astraweb. I am unsure of how well the
newsgroup is propagated here, though, because getting "all" messages
returned 6.
FACE
Robert Miles
<jackp...@astraweb.com> wrote in message
news:85nia4dq2s0tiojbs...@4ax.com...
this
newsgroup, and is blocking messages to this newsgroup posted on other
servers from reaching their server, so Dennis isn't likely to see your
message.
As far as I know, they're also trying to block the other direction for this
newsgroup.
You might want to try email to newsmaster @ bellsouth.net (with a suitable
unmunging) and see if that gets anywhere.
The error messages I get from trying to connect to the newsgroup indicate
that they're now requiring SSL for connections to their newsgroups server,
but setting it as the error messages suggest only changes what error
messages
I get.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
jackp...@astraweb.com
Thanks, Robert. It is times like these that we need external access to this
group.
j (that really is correct :-))
nightwalk...@hotmail.com
well lets see
I'll check my other account
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:12:29 -0500, "Robert Miles"
<rober...@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> twisted the bits to say:
nightwalk...@hotmail.com
News posted from Forte APN gets into BS fine.
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:21:04 -0400, nightwalk...@hotmail.com