Emacs or Vi? Oh and sony!
Philip Herron
I am just way too tempted to ask this question! I am an emacs man :)
http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/online/news/sony_dsc_g3_camera_has_wi_fi_and_linux
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-Phil
http://redbrain.co.uk
Ryan Grieve
Vi!
Simon McCartney
> Hey
>
> I am just way too tempted to ask this question! I am an emacs man :)
vi all the way. even on the command line. (set -o vi in bash, or
tweak your .inputrc for all getline enabled apps, like mysql)
McC
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Simon McCartney
> http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/online/news/sony_dsc_g3_camera_has_wi_fi_and_linux
>
Dude, what is it with multi-topic emails? Or am I just getting old & cranky?
Colin Turner
> Quoting Philip Herron <herron...@googlemail.com>:
>
> > http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/online/news/sony_dsc_g3_camera_has_wi_fi_and_linux
> >
>
> Dude, what is it with multi-topic emails? Or am I just getting old & cranky?
Or both?
As to editor choice
In terminals Emacs ... only because I find it marginally less awful than
vi. For coding, Geany... I don't feel the need to wear sack cloth and
ashes when doing hours of "real" editor work.
CT.
Andrew Wilson
mail account on soto and dthen refused to install emacs.
If I couldn't use vim I'd go back to eamcs rather than use plain vi.
I only ever run these in terminals, I really really despise the way
they remap keys when in a GUI environment to do some weird
shit. In vim, C-v starts a box select it does not under any
circumstances paste the contents of "*. Gah! bunch of arse!
2009/1/16 Philip Herron <herron...@googlemail.com>:
Philip Herron
I was a casual vi user for a about 1 year jsut to edit the odd file on my mythbox. But i am a total emacs user, emacs-gtk is brilliant for gnome and brilliant for the console with emacs -nw. I love it for doing c/c++ coding in because it just integrates very well.
Java was wierd to get used to in it but now its awesome and there are alot of neat plugins to do latex really nice :)
2009/1/16 Andrew Wilson <and...@rivendale.net>
Niall J Hewitt
Matt Keenan
> On behalf of the lurkers: vim and emacs frighten us. Nano is the safe
> one.
Well here is one lurker who prefers nvi because it does proper regex.
Matt
David Wilson
>
> I'm a vim user. Converted from emacs by Marty when he gave me a
> mail account on soto and dthen refused to install emacs.
>
> If I couldn't use vim I'd go back to eamcs rather than use plain vi.
>
> I only ever run these in terminals, I really really despise the way
> they remap keys when in a GUI environment to do some weird
> shit. In vim, C-v starts a box select it does not under any
> circumstances paste the contents of "*. Gah! bunch of arse!
I've been using GTK & win32 vims for about 7 years now and have no
idea what you're talking about, although there might be magic in my
gvimrc (along with the toolbars/menus/scrollbars hiding thing) to
solve this that I've long since forgotten about. :)
I personally find the GUI vims invaluable for their improved cutpaste support.
>
> 2009/1/16 Philip Herron <herron...@googlemail.com>:
>> Hey
>>
>> I am just way too tempted to ask this question! I am an emacs man :)
>
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debian
> of neat plugins to do latex really nice :)
Hmmmm, who else out there is using \LaTeX locally ? How about a \LaTeX get
together/workshop some time ?
Joe
Florian Hollerweger
debian wrote:
> Hmmmm, who else out there is using \LaTeX locally ? How about a \LaTeX get
> together/workshop some time ?
I use LaTeX for most of my typesetting, and although I am by no means an
expert, I do know about BibTeX, heavy math typesetting, and also got my
hands on music typesetting by integrating LaTeX and Lilypond.
best,
flo.H
Colin Turner
I use LaTeX for maths and programming notes, tutorials and so on. You
can see our short course for PhD students (primarily on how to do a
thesis) here
http://newton.engj.ulst.ac.uk/moodle/course/view.php?id=24
I think you should be able to login as a guest, if indeed any of it is
interesting or useful to either of you.
CT.
Philip Herron
Thats pretty cool, reading through your modules your Maths ones are
quite nice, they are very practical and lead in nicely for software
engineering :)
I am going to do some of the problems to give me something to do now!
Though i haven't studied 'Laplace' stuff before but i guess google
might help!
-Phil
Ed
Lee Braiden
> Hmmmm, who else out there is using \LaTeX locally ? How about a
> \LaTeX get together/workshop some time ?
I use it now and then. I kind of have a love/hate relationship with it.
Love, in that it's nice for simple things I've done so far, and isn't
XML. Hate, in that I've avoided it for complex things (custom layouts,
multilingual text/unicode, document reuse, multiple targets like XHTML,
PDF, DAISY, etc.), knowing it would probably get in my way as much as
help.
I have been meaning to check out XeTeX for this sort of use though.
Really need to find a solution for this soon, which works well with a
DVCS.
--
Lee
Colin Turner
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 19:25 +0000, Philip Herron wrote:
> > I use LaTeX for maths and programming notes, tutorials and so on. You
> > can see our short course for PhD students (primarily on how to do a
> > thesis) here
> >
> > http://newton.engj.ulst.ac.uk/moodle/course/view.php?id=24
> Thats pretty cool, reading through your modules your Maths ones are
> quite nice, they are very practical and lead in nicely for software
> engineering :)
>
> I am going to do some of the problems to give me something to do now!
> Though i haven't studied 'Laplace' stuff before but i guess google
> might help!
Thanks for the kind comments. They are the product of many hours labour!
The Laplace chapter should be fairly self contained for anyone who has
done enough integration, so if you're interested, just read through
it... feel free to send me questions.
From the point of Joe's original question, I have plenty of example
files on using LaTeX with maths, program listings, and slides that I can
send anyone who needs the help.
CT.
Philip Herron
> From the point of Joe's original question, I have plenty of example
> files on using LaTeX with maths, program listings, and slides that I can
> send anyone who needs the help.
>
Yeah seeing those now, i always wanted to know how to use latex for
writing out long math eqn's, i ended up getting really good with
open-office because it has a half decent formula editor! :) Which is
pretty easy to use i laughed at guys in my class saying they cant find
it in Microsoft office! I was like ehh... i use debian, and open-office
whats this Microsoft you speak of?! :)
But i have been using latex for some paper i had to write at work on
performance on Vmware vs Xen vs KVM. It was pretty amazing how even the
default formatting makes pdf's look! :)
-Phil
debian
> From the point of Joe's original question, I have plenty of example
> files on using LaTeX with maths, program listings, and slides that I can
> send anyone who needs the help.
Oh yes please, if it is not too much bother.
Briefly, what do you see as the advantages of LaTeX (presumably
Beamer) over Powerpoint ?
Joe.
debian
> hands on music typesetting by integrating LaTeX and Lilypond.
Right up my street. I am currently using theses two friends to write
a book of tunes.
I have also dabbled with Lilypond-book, but gave up on it.
Joe
Florian Hollerweger
debian wrote:
> Right up my street. I am currently using theses two friends to write
> a book of tunes.
>
> I have also dabbled with Lilypond-book, but gave up on it.
But lilypond-book was what I meant when saying "combination of LaTeX and
Lilypond. It's been a while, but I remember managing to integrate
lilypond-book into Kile's GUI in a one-button-does-it-all kind of
fashion. Would that be of use for you?
Best,
flo.H
Anthony Clearn
On the subject of LaTex I was googling and came across these http://www.lyx.org/
http://kile.sourceforge.net/ http://www.ctan.org/ apologies if this is
old hat. Tex is all new to me.
Thorsten Brabetz
> Hmmmm, who else out there is using \LaTeX locally ? How about a \LaTeX get
> together/workshop some time ?
I have used LaTeX extensively in the past, wrote my PhD thesis with it, and
very glad I did seeing the problems that my colleagues had using Word. I am
still using it reasonably regularly for complicated technical reports, etc.,
together with BibTeX. Personally, I am a big Kile fan, and ever since it was
developed my preference for LaTeX over WYSIWYG style editors has increased
exponentially. :o)
Jonathan McDowell
> Quoting Philip Herron <herron...@googlemail.com>:
>
> vi all the way. even on the command line. (set -o vi in bash, or
> tweak your .inputrc for all getline enabled apps, like mysql)
Ick. I'm a confirmed vim user (email, programming, LaTeX [look ma,
thread merge]), but every time I have to show my coworker who's set bash
to vi keys something my brain breaks.
J.
Steven Wilkin
*nix installation and I've stuck with it since, even for writing code.
I must admit though, I've considered switching to TextMate while on OS
X...
Andrew Gallagher
> Vim was my introduction to editing configuration files on my first
> *nix installation and I've stuck with it since, even for writing code.
>
> I must admit though, I've considered switching to TextMate while on OS
> X...
TextMate is the business. You'll never regret it.
Andrew.
Florian Hollerweger
Andrew Gallagher wrote:
> TextMate is the business. You'll never regret it.
I'm being a cheeky non-TextMate user now, but doesn't TextMate compare
more to Kate and Gedit than Emacs and Vim?
In other words: is there any Linux GUI editor that can _not_ do what
TextMate does?
(That's one thing I always found so great about Linux: syntax colouring
for even the most obscure programming languages in even the most basic
text editor.)
best,
flo.H
Andrew Gallagher
>
> Hi,
>
> Andrew Gallagher wrote:
>> TextMate is the business. You'll never regret it.
>
> I'm being a cheeky non-TextMate user now, but doesn't TextMate compare
> more to Kate and Gedit than Emacs and Vim?
Or to xemacs and gvim? I would even compare it to Eclipse, given the
number of handy programming macros it has.
> In other words: is there any Linux GUI editor that can _not_ do what
> TextMate does?
Well, there's nothing you _can't_ do in Emacs, but the question is would
you really want to?
:-)
Andrew.
JGJones
do although I admit I don't actually use text editors much...but when I
do, it's gedit (or nano for the very quick jobs)
Philip Herron
I used nano for a while because it was nice and simple when i was new to linux :).
But then started to like vim untill last few months i moved to emacs and do all my work in in now! Latex, programming and config editing etc. I just like the idea of meta-x and you just tab for what cmd you want! :)
And there is like a mode for everything including news reading and mail! :P
-Phil