[belenix-discuss] About a new home for www.belenix.org

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Sriram Narayanan

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Jan 29, 2012, 1:20:01 PM1/29/12
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Folks:

For years, Al Hopper has provided us with hosting on the genunix.org
servers. For various reasons, the genunix.org hosting has gone away,
and the domain name now takes us to a Blastwave group page.

Al continues to remain a Belenix supporter, and it's awesome to have
an experienced person like him around to help.

Thanks for all the support all these years, Al !

Meanwhile, Michael Kosarev, another Belenix supporter, has provided us
with a server in Moscow.
I've been engaged at work and have only now begun paying attention to
Belenix tasks again.

I'll ask Moinak to change the DNS for www.belenix.org to point to our
server in Russia. Once that is done, we can host the website within a
zone.

Please check https://github.com/belenix/belenix-website/. This is an
initial commit, and I've created a plain text site for now. We can
take a decision on the content, platform (Django, Drupal, etc) later.

-- Sriram
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Ashutosh Narayan

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May 3, 2012, 5:14:08 AM5/3/12
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Sriram Narayanan <sri...@belenix.org> wrote:

Please check https://github.com/belenix/belenix-website/. This is an
initial commit, and I've created a plain text site for now. We can
take a decision on the content, platform (Django, Drupal, etc) later.

Lets have a little discussion pertaining to Django platform. I have started
exploring it for a while and can contribute in developing a Django based website.


-- Sriram
Belenix: www.belenix.org
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Balachandran Sivakumar

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May 3, 2012, 6:33:17 AM5/3/12
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Hi,

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Ashutosh Narayan
<aashutos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Sriram Narayanan <sri...@belenix.org>
> wrote:
>
> Lets have a little discussion pertaining to Django platform. I have started
> exploring it for a while and can contribute in developing a Django based
> website.
>

Though Django is a very good tool, it might be too much to use
for the Belenix website. I would suggest some simple
microframeworks like Flask or Bottle. Thanks


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Balachandran Sivakumar

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May 4, 2012, 12:54:21 AM5/4/12
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Hi,

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar
<benig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Though Django is a very good tool, it might be too much to use
> for the Belenix website. I would suggest some simple
> microframeworks like Flask or Bottle. Thanks
>
>

Sorry for replying to my own mail. But I just realised that
the website is mostly static content. So, we might not need Django or
Flask. So, why not use some simple HTML+CSS+JS lib. I would recommend
YUI3 + HTML as it would do a very good job at creating a good looking
site. Thanks

Al Hopper

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May 4, 2012, 9:30:32 AM5/4/12
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Hi there,

If its static content, consider hosting it on Amazon Web Services along with (optionally) CloudFront.

Regards,
--
Al Hopper

Kaya Saman

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May 4, 2012, 9:37:52 AM5/4/12
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Hi guys,

long time no post here.....

What about using one of the: Media wiki, Xwiki et el..... platforms??


Or would that be overkill?


Regards,


Kaya

Irek Szczesniak

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May 4, 2012, 9:41:48 AM5/4/12
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IMO overkill. Try the KISS principle. A plain subversion repository as
version control system and access control for the web page would be
beneficial.

Irek

Kaya Saman

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May 4, 2012, 10:03:16 AM5/4/12
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Hmm.... not sure how developers like to work as here @work we have an
SVN repo and portal for most things, but since I use 2 instances of
Xwiki at home for my personal projects I thought it might be useful to
have somewhere where one could - not only have a nice site but also be
able to upload documents and other types of file and colaborate
etc....


But as you said it might be overkill since you guys have already
established a means of working over the years.


Regards,


Kaya

Sriram Narayanan

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May 4, 2012, 11:59:19 AM5/4/12
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I'll reply to various points that have come up on this thread:

a. Hosting
Al Hopper has recommended in the past that we host on AWS. However, we
also got support from ruse39 who provided us with a box at his data
center. At present, the basic belenix website is hosted there.

b. Website content
Most or all of the important content is available via web.archive.org.
We can copy that content over to the new website once it is ready. If
you check www.belenix.org (I've bounced the webserver and its serving
content again), you'll see that I've pushed the content to github.
Feel free to fork that, come up with something, and let's see what we
can do next !

c. The website platform.
I'm personally inclined toward some wiki technology, but I personally
don't have much preference in any way. If anyone would like to
demonstrate websites based on any platforms (django, xwiki, etc), then
feel free to showcase to the mailing list. Thanks to ruse39, we have a
box in which we can set up zones and try out things. We can have a
zone per sample site, and can try things out. Note: www.belenix.org
runs within a zone on an openindiana b151a host.

My own personal interests are in working on the roadmap that I'd
proposed here (http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/belenix-dev/2011-July/000280.html).

A website is important, and managing content in it is important too.
We need to figure out what'd be ideal for us, and follow that
approach.

-- Sriram
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Twitter: @sriramnrn

Kaya Saman

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May 4, 2012, 12:16:33 PM5/4/12
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Am no way a great Web/Wiki designer but here are my Xwiki sites:

{still under devel for the content though as need bigger box with more
RAM current system is FreeBSD 8.2 x86 with 4GB RAM running 5 BSD Jails
- using 8/1Mbps ADSL link}

http://www.optiplex-networks.com
http://wiki.optiplex-networks.com

I have made various howto guides on the Xwiki site for
Solaris11/Nexenta Core 3 and Glassfish V3 using Postgresql DB, or
FreeBSD 8.2 running Apache Tomcat and Postgresql DB.

Can post the URLs if anyone is interested - very easy to setup!


I know I've been away for a while but regarding Xwiki at least I work
closely with the devels from there so wouldn't mind contributing time
to set a demo up or assist in something :-)
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