(CDP Grey is the guy who made the 'Lord of the Rings Mythology Explained' video.)
I think this is the first non-DD discussion of *anti-rational memes* that I've come across though he doesn't use that term.
Specifically, Grey claims that memes which elicit emotion, especially anger, spread more easily.
(see chart at 1:07)
Here's a guess as to why.
If some 'internet meme' like a news report or captioned photo makes Joe angry, the context whereby the memory of it is stored includes anger and is therefore harder to access in other moods. This is because memory storage makes no distinction between content and context. Memory recall begins from a partial construction of the context which is then completed by the act of recall (btw, *creativity* might occur as a result of errors in this process).
So Joe can criticise it all he likes in calmer moments but if he gets angry later on the meme may still be recalled and possibly re-posted.
Some other points:
Popperians can recognise this as a serious error. Memes don't get transferred directly into other brains; they spread because brains guess the *meaning* of what is being *enacted* by other brains (see the stick figures on p.376 of BoI). Germs can spread from person to person even if they don't cause disease, because symptom-free people can act as carriers. But memes *must* be enacted. In the case of internet memes enactment takes the simple form of posting a picture or messaging a link to it.
This is nice. I hadn't thought about symbiosis between memes on opposing sides of an argument before.
>'When opposing groups get big they don't really argue with each other they mostly argue with themselves about how angry the other group makes them'
True but increasingly prevalent is looking for evidence about how angry the *other* group are. Public accusation of hate is a new and powerful form of attack (e.g. calling the opposition a 'hate group').
-- Tom Robinson
I watched the first 10 seconds and it looks super annoying to watch and really trendy, and screams unseriousness. Which fits with the 2 million views.
If you’re guessing why, instead of him knowing something more than an assertion, I’m not impressed.
it doesn’t matter if he’s the 10th best person in the world, it wouldn’t be good enough.
he doesn’t seem to understand the difference btwn anti-rational and rational memes.
And there’s no mention of how anti-rational memes disable creativity as a means to keep from being criticized.
> Specifically, Grey claims that memes which elicit emotion, especially anger, spread more easily.
ya, his main point seems to be that you can take *any* meme and the ones which elicit the most emotion (especially anger) will spread the fastest. but that’s not how rational memes spread. and it is not clear to me that it is how all anti-rational memes spread. for example, lots of ppl learn monogamy and marriage memes without getting angry about them and without spreading them more due to anger.
> This is nice. I hadn't thought about symbiosis between memes on opposing sides of an argument before.
I wonder if this is true. For example, is there a symbiotic relationship between capitalism vs socialism memes? Btwn TCS vs conventional parenting memes? I don’t think so. First of all, TCS ideas are not anti-rational memes and don’t spread by anti-rational meme mechanisms (unlike many conventional parenting memes).