HiAlan @alanbruce, thank you for starting this new discussion. It is a great topic. Notice I changed the title of your discussion a little to give it a little emphasis. I started looking at diet and lifestyle changes for helping with my autoimmune diseases after reading Dr. Terry Wahls book - The Wahls Protocol. She has an amazing story about how diet helped her MS symptoms - -terry-wahls/
John, I eat lots of fruit especially berries, vegetables and fish. I limit carbs and meats. I rarely eat fast food and fried foods. At times I eat too many sweets, my wife's fault. I walk nearly every day which I think is a great help.
Hello @ghsmith, Welcome to Connect. Thanks for sharing what helped you get rid of your PMR symptoms. While I do think diet and lifestyle play a major part in our health I think we still have to be a little careful and do our own research finding reputable information and data. I was not able to find anything other than a rebuttle of sorts and a lot of ad type sites for the Paddison Program. Eating healthier and limiting sugar, alcohol and red meat has helped keep my PMR in remission.
-- The Paddison Program for rheumatoid arthritis: An unproven treatment that provides only the illusion of control: -paddison-program-for-rheumatoid-arthritis-the-unproven-illusion-of-control/
-- The Paddison Program For Rheumatoid Arthritis:
Hello @tonituin, Welcome to Connect. My PMR has been in remission since 2018 and I like to think diet and exercise play a large part in holding PMR at bay. If you haven't already seen my post earlier in this discussion, it has a couple of links you might find helpful -
I make Turmeric lattes in the morning and so far I find they are really making a difference both with pain and lowering my CRP. there a lots of recipes online but make sure you add a little bit of black pepper to facilitate the turmeric working I use oat milk and also chocolate oat milk which is delicious
I am happy that you cured your PRM in 40 days. I tried to find any independent study that would support such an amazing recovery. I could not. I do not doubt that you cured your PMR. I only wish I could find some independent data about the Paddison Program. I will keep looking for some clinical studies.
Has anyone tried or heard of the Paddison Programme which has been designed by Clint Paddison? It's about eating plant based food to help improve RA symptoms. I know that there are lots of books out there on this subject but just wondered if anyone had any info on it.
The Paddison program will help . I could not eat rice and beans but I can eat green vegetables. Grains, dairy, oils and nightshades are out for me. Green veggies will heal and processed foods will kill.
I'm on it and it works very well. You have to retrain your way of thinking because during the initial stages many healthy foods will not work for you. I'm not on any medications and chose to start this instead of taking medications. That means I have to follow it strictly and when I don't I have pain and other symptoms. But, it works. When it's not working, it's because I'm not following it precisely. I'm gradually healing. They say that it takes a month for every year you've been ill and you have to include the years before you recognized your symptoms as being part of a disease. It takes a while, but, for many, it's the path to complete remission. That doesn't mean you relapse into bad eating habits, a sedentary lifestyle, stressful life and lots of habits and medications that can harm you and take you right back there. You keep it up but you are at the end of the spectrum where you have a wide variety of foods you can eat and you don't get big symptoms when you are not absolutely perfect. Start out being as perfect as you can at following it because you'll slow yourself way down in healing if you aren't. Everyone is a little different so you have to experiment but stay within the guidelines. Some people don't so progress more slowly but they are thrilled. Still, if they did stay within the guidelines, they'd progress much faster and get off medications or greatly reduce them much sooner. I did not buy the program but I know it would be easier and probably faster if I did. I just had to turn down a job when all this started, so my money had been tight. I'm finally getting to the point where i can work more so am making more money. Still not where I need to be so still haven't joined, but I'm extremely good at finding information so I've been able to piece it together. I think most people will benefit by buying the book and joining, but the info is out there if you're a good detective. There are a lot of questions I have that I can't ask and many I can't find answers to right away, honestly. But, I'm still progressing well. So, it works. Sometimes patience is the thing that is missing, so keep that in mind. Also, you may have multiple conditions because the cause is the same so sometimes you have to cover all the bases. If you have rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and gout, you're going to eliminate some foods for one that you might be able to eat if you only had the other conditions. These are not necessarily really separate conditions but they overlap and are labeled according to symptoms and what medical treatments tend to be used. Paddison Program works for a variety of conditions because it heals your gut and reduces inflammation, so it's going to help heart disease, diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, psoriatic arthritis, gout (but eliminate certain foods for gout), Sjogren's, etc. For diabetes type 1, you'll still take insulin but you might take less and feel better. Coordinate with your doctor but don't expect them to support it. Ask them, "Will it harm me if I do this for a month?" Many are not up to date or well educated in certain topics. They know how to give meds but would have to see results from this for several patients before accepting it or might just say it's the meds and deny diet could ever havev an effect. It can, and it can help a lot super fast but you'll still have to take a long time to actually heal so that your diet can be highly varied. It can take pain down dramatically in 2-3 days but you can't live on what you have to eat for those 2-3 days longterm. So, that's why you have to take a long time. You want your messed up gut to heal so it's robustly healthy. A few months ago, I would be in a lot of pain after writing this and it would take me a long time. I wrote this fast and have no pain. No medication. Lost a dress size or more without trying to. It's a really good program.
As far as I know, it's another one of the "send me money and I'll tell you how to cure RA" programmes, where there's no hard evidence that it does more than being sensible about diet would do. Diet can help some people, and I'm certainly better for having adjusted what I eat (lots colourful veg, and no junk etc). But my RA needs the drugs too, and diet alone wouldn't keep the damage at bay. Polly
Yes, it does work, I went onto it and the improvement in my RA was very marked. The reason why doctors don't recommend it is that most people do not have the will power to stick to it, plus there have not been government approved trials. It's not a diet you can trial easily. The idea is that you heal your gut which is what is causing toxins to get into the joints and the immune system cannot tell the difference between your joint and the toxin as they are made up of the same proteins (your immune system doesn't have a brain). I got my RA a few months after taking 3 lots of anti-biotics which wrecked my gut.
The diet means you eat leaves, lentils, water, veg, raw veg. It's a miserable existence, watching others eat luxury foods, cakes, coffee, wine, sweets, etc etc. You can't go to a restaurant, you can't go to parties or mix or socialise, people don't understand, don't want to understand. You have to cook meals for your family whist making buckwheat and rice for yourself, you can't sample the food you cook for others even though you have to look at it. You can't go on holiday without planning your 'stuff', your family get fed up, you get fed up. A consultant at Dryburn Hosp. in Durham said that he could cure me by liquid feeding straight into the blood by-passing the stomach, but he said it was not quality of life and that weight loss was a problem. So some gastroenterologists know about this. Clint Paddison's regime is not a con, he has had this disease badly and he want to share it but he also needs to live, he is not charging a lot it's what, 40 and once you have the info you have it. The man who invented a cure for stomach ulcer's took 15 years to convince people, and this isn't a drug, it's a regime, a way of life and very few people stick to it. plus I live in a cold climate where eating salad's can be really difficult in the winter months. I've done this diet it works, then I've failed, I've done it again, I ate crisps because I was desperate for taste and failed, I fail, I try I fail. But each time I do it, the RA goes down. I got my inflammatory marker down from 18 to 9. It wasn't a coincidence, it work's but at a really big cost to normal life.
My sed rate went down from 65 to 28 by avoiding grains , dairy , nightshades, most meats. It is tough but I have had my knee aspirated so many times , I feel really stupid eating foods that make my joints swell . Yes still eat those foods sometimes, I am weak and I kinda know what I can get away with , so I won't hurt too bad the next day.
I will have to disagree with you . I am doing the Paddison program. He is present and there for you 100 percent. His lifestyle is more then backed up by the science and many people have results. It is not an immediate fix but... drugs are a part of it for now...
I started this diet in January last year, I was sceptical, It is not an easy option, but it really works for me. I have gradually been able to add in more food options and am feeling better than I have felt for several years. I still have slight twinges to remind me that I have RA, but rarely need painkillers. Flares are minor and can usually be put down to trying a new food.
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