Youcan pair a power meter or a heart rate strap here, but not other sensor types like a smart trainer or cadence sensor, which is honestly a bit weird since they already have that code based in the other app. Seems like a silly limitation.
At that point you can tap next to pair up any trainers or sensors that you might have. You can save multiple sensors here. You can also add a virtual partner, which is where you might add a friend that recently did the ride and try and beat them.
The company also has training plans as part of the app, as well as videos and workouts beyond just cycling. These include yoga workouts, strength training, and a handful of running ones. And even mental focused exercises.
The workout will iterate through, automatically adjusting the power on your train accordingly. You can skip or go ahead in an interval by pressing the VCR-like buttons above. Or you can adjust intensity by pressing the +/- buttons. You can see your target and actual watts.
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Great write-up.
I just started using Xert and love it. The way Xert constantly adjust and the way it make you work hard for that next breakthought effort.
With Xert you dont need to do that dreaded 20 min. FTP test. Xert calculate your FTP from all you rides and pretty accurate. Xert had my FTP at XXX watts without doing a FTP test. I then did a FTP test and it was within 1 watt of what Xert had calculated.
I use the Tacx app exclusively for ad hoc workouts. Basically my coach creates workouts for me to do. It was great because it used to allow you to make quick changes to power through the app. But they cut that feature out in the new version.
Excellent review. One of the things that the review does not cover in detail is the community aspects of app. As someone who uses the Sufferfest, the online community that mostly congregates on FB, is one of the most valuable and supportive aspects of the app. The spirit, encouragement, and support that come from the community is really incredible (especially around the time they do the Tour of Sufferlandia).
I have been a user of The Sufferfest for a decade and a seasonal user of Rouvy for two years. I also have tried RGT in its early iteration but gave up when it required two devices to run and while TrainerRoad is excellent for what it is I find the chart format not very motivating.. Zwift is not for everyone and I am one of those.
Love the detailed write up. For what its worth I have been a TR sub for over 3 years now and just love it. The team, forums, calendar, workout builder, podcast and community are top notch. If you want to get faster it will do that for sure.
For others that want something with a little more interaction zwift group rides are a lot of fun and Fulgaz works well. Peloton digital app is meh without the bike personally (used to have one) but the app overall with meditation, running, yoga, bootcamp, dancing (most recent), etc are pretty hard to beat for $12.99 a month.
Non-pro tip:
For those not able to purchase a smart trainer right away and need help, Zwift + the Speed Transmitter app will allow you to bypass the need for power sensors. Not sure how many other apps that Speed Transmitter works with?
Hi, I have an old Tacx Flow with the Tacx smart head unit that plugged into a USB port on my laptop to control resistance when using the now defunct TTS4. Are any of the new apps able to provide this same functionality i.e. connectivity via USB cable as opposed to Bluetooth? Thanks.
Most underappreciated feature of Zwift is the seamless integration with TrainingPeaks. My coach puts a structured workout into TP, and it shows up that day for me to do in Zwift without me doing a thing. You mention TP integration with Rouvy. I assume that works the same way, but the integration in Zwift is pretty much the single biggest reason that I continue to use it as opposed to TR (which seems, in part, to want to be a competitor to TrainingPeaks).
Awesome review. I too mainly use TR for last 4 years. Tried sufferfest but novality wore off on me. Think seasoned athletes like just plans and target. Follow the numbers. I just watch Netflix or YouTube on trainer.
Thanks again
Andrew. IG. @ lufbra88
Question to anyone. If you are just the normal recreational rider, no coach, no plan, just want to ride beautiful scenic rides that does well simulating those rides on my trainer, which is the best platform for that? Kinomap rouvy?
Be sure to take full advantage of the search function! In addition to the map search, you can also find routes by filtering through classifications such as the average grade, distance, or total ascent. That search is easily accessible through the website.
Personally what I do is dual-record all my workouts with my Garmin (so my training load stats stay up to date), and then leave Strava with the export from TR/Zwift (but delete the Garmin one), and then I delete the TR/Zwift one from Garmin. Yeah, I know, stupid.
I have tried several of the above platforms, but in truth not all of them. I found my way to The Sufferfest and have never looked elsewhere. I find the workouts are so well designed to train specifically a certain area of your cycling fitness, but when combined in a training plan in their prescribed order the results are simply staggering.
If you want interaction, and virtual worlds this will not suit you, but if you want to get fitter and faster with structured training indoors not aimless riding then The Sufferfest will take some beating.
Thanks for those comments, Leighton! Indeed, the Sufferlandrian community is one of the most relentlessly positive, fun and supportive groups anywhere. For anyone keen to see it, you can see the fun here: link to
facebook.com
It is awesome that there are so many good apps out. Reading the comments, all of them of have big fans. Each one seems to appeal to a slightly different user that is looking for an experience that meets there needs. Or they use multiple apps. I have only used Zwift but will be checking out others.
Having just discovered BigRingVR can wholly recommend! Great interface, easy to setup on PC with ANT only. Worked flawlessly with my ancient ant dongle and the elite suito! And love the rides available.
I can only confirm, Veloreality is great. As a long-time user, I am currently testing the 720p streaming offer: excellent for extending the already huge range of courses available and it works absolutely flawlessly.
I have my garmin only to receive from the C1 and the phone to receive from both the C1 and the trainer.
I will remove the pm from the phone and do a ride with just the trainer connected to the phone and the pm connected to the garmin. That should give me a good idea if there is major issues with using just the trainer.
I got the perfpro and has no regret. Only one time payment and very good value. The only downside is it is PC only and has no android or iOS version so I have to use my laptop for it instead of tablet.
Bollocks.. Tacx is filmed with Bertha.. hence it has the highest film quality in the industry, by a mile.
Look at the actual leaning into the corner. Garmin recompresses them to shit.
But the film quality is by far the best.
Anyway I thought it would be good if you could mention the new Group Workout feature in your review. I know it has just been launched, but it might appeal to some who want to have a social aspect in their deliberate cycling training.
You define current rider type (workout focus), hours available to train weekly (improvement rate), goal date (phased progression), and freshness feedback (how you feel before workouts). You can change settings at any time as as you see fit :). For example, work on your strengths (climber) then switch to work on a weaknesses (time trial). Or shorten/lengthen the workout today or pick a BT (breakthrough) workout when you feel like it. Or perform a RAMP test if you prefer although RAMP tests are not required for XATA to work.
I prefer solo workouts with occasional group rides on weekends versus the cacophony of Zwift, but as noted in the review Zwifters can export Xert workouts to ZWO and ride with the Xert Player Remote overlay. Or use the Remote Player with RGT, VeloReality, ErgVideo, Youtube, etc. while the app runs on your smartphone.
Maybe you should mention that Bkool was used as the platform for the first ever danish indoor cycling championship at Marts 7th won by Jacob Skovsgaard, after a qualifying tournament held by
bkoolligaen.dk and DCU the danish cycling union. Bkoolligaen.dk and its Facebook group have more than 6600 followers in Denmark and over 900 active riders in the tournament. Races Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturdays with up to 200 riders.
smart tv combination/pairing with mac/ios/android:
I am getting my first smart trainer soon. I wanted to know if you noticed any video lag or short comings using the trainer apps on kindle fire/android/ipad/iphone/mac while projected/connected via chrome or hdmi to smart tv?
FYI: my network hardware and internet connections are super, super fast
I have older 2016 Samsung smart tv that does not have airplay abilities and older MacBook pro 2015. I wanted to project the trainer apps on either on the MacBook or the iPad to the Smart TV (newer Smart TV some 2018 or later now have airplay connectivity).
My solution involves Chromecast hardware and the software Mirroring360 ($12/device), and there is no lag with great picture clarity. There are a couple caveats. It is $12 per device so if I wanted to setup on my MacBook, iPad, and Android phone the total would be a total $36. The licenses is good until I upgrade my devices or computer (might have to look at pro pricing $30/year for multiple devices, considering I am usually changing out least one phone, tablet or computer evert couple of years ). Also I still need to interact with the trainer app on the source device, meaning it has to be in reach to the my bike setup.
MacOS and sharing is limited with Chromecast. It shares the chrome web browser but not the mac desktop. Sharing can also be achieved, IF the trainer apps have chromecast sharing built in. Mirroring360 shares your mac desktop to Chromecast.
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