Different topology from starting tree

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Jose Ramirezs

Nov 15, 2022, 9:12:48 PM11/15/22
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Dear Beast,

I am currently running an analysis with a fixed tree topology (newick). However, the resulting tree topology is different: some branches are swaped and the tips are no longer equidistant from the root. I revised the runs in Tracer and the parameters that relate to the tree (Tree-height, Tree.treeLength) have values above 200 ESS. I don’t know where the problem might be and I hope that someone could help me.

Your help would be greatly appreciated.
kind regards



Nov 16, 2022, 2:29:24 AM11/16/22
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Hi  José,

Did you turn off tree operators besides uploading a newick tree?


Jose Ramirezs

Nov 16, 2022, 12:03:06 PM11/16/22
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Hi Hovhanne, 

Thank you for your answer,

Yes, the operators (Wide-exchange, Narrow-exchange, Wilson-Balding, Subtree-slide) that are related with the search of the tree are disabled or set to zero. But, I don`t know if I should turn off the Tree-scaler, Tree-root-scaler, Uniform, Up-down-operators, because I have "ultrametrized" the tree (topology resulting of ML analysis) by calibrating some nodes with the Chronos function of the APE package of R.

Kind regards,

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Shanta Hejmadi

Dec 17, 2022, 12:15:58 PM12/17/22
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This is the same issue I am having (BEAST2.6.4).  I added an ultrametric Newick starting tree, I commented out the  Wide-exchange, Narrow-exchange, Wilson-Balding, and Subtree-slide operators. The analysis runs (suspiciously slowly for having a fixed topology), and yet my starting tree is not the same topology as the last tree in my tree.trees file.  What was the resolution to this issue, because I also need it? 
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