Wither bonescript?

[pete.l...@gmail.com]

So, a couple of years ago I bought a BBB. Had a play for a while, then it ended up in a drawer as newer boards with more features blew past it.
I've now found that drawer! This BBB has Debian 7 installed. I've done an apt-get upgrade and update and it all seems to work. I've been looking at bonescript as being a quick and easy way to get it to do something useful with peripherals. However all the documentation seems to be for bonescript on Angstrom - and even then, most of it is a year or two old.
I've run the stuff at https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript that is pertinent to Debian which amounts to just a few lines:

Debian and Ubuntu prerequisites:

• Credit to http://learn.adafruit.com/introduction-to-the-beaglebone-black-device-tree/compiling-an-overlay

sudo apt-get install -y build-essential g++ python-setuptools python2.7-dev
wget -c https://raw.github.com/RobertCNelson/tools/master/pkgs/dtc.sh
chmod +x dtc.sh
./dtc.sh

but which does NOT end up with anything that seems to produce any results. Specifically, the one-liner:
node -pe "require('bonescript').getPlatform().bonescript"

produces no output. Nothing. No error messages, no status, nothing.

My simple question is: is bonescript on Debian dead? Am I wasting my time trying to use it and should I be looking at some other way to interact with GPIOs and all the other peripherals?

With thanks,
Pete

[Robert Nelson]

Well the above doesn't install bonescript...

npm install -g bonescript

Regards,

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[chnyc]

Hi Pete,

Funny you're asking that question at the very moment I'm pondering the answer, as well. I'm deep into finishing up the last draft of a book for (very) beginning BBB users and makers, and have been using Bonescript periodically in chapters.

Currently, I'm trying to develop an example using resion.io + Docker as an instance of the direction IoT development may move with "containerized" apps. I want to use Bonescript with some simple sensor scenarios.

But since there's no capemgr support, yet, for >3.8 kernel (unless I'm mistaken?), using the library may be a dead end for now. It also seems that more developer interest is moving toward other libraries/toolsets like Johnny-Five since you can jump to non-BBB boards easily.

Sorry for the blasphemy. I'm a big fan of Bonescript, especially for early users just diving into physical computing. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Charles Hamilton
(not the Charles with the magic config-pin utility)

[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:52 AM, chnyc <charl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Pete,
>
> Funny you're asking that question at the very moment I'm pondering the
> answer, as well. I'm deep into finishing up the last draft of a book for
> (very) beginning BBB users and makers, and have been using Bonescript
> periodically in chapters.
>
> Currently, I'm trying to develop an example using resion.io + Docker as an
> instance of the direction IoT development may move with "containerized"
> apps. I want to use Bonescript with some simple sensor scenarios.
>
> But since there's no capemgr support, yet, for >3.8 kernel (unless I'm
> mistaken?), using the library may be a dead end for now. It also seems that
> more developer interest is moving toward other libraries/toolsets like
> Johnny-Five since you can jump to non-BBB boards easily.

4.1.x has capemgr. ;)

> Sorry for the blasphemy. I'm a big fan of Bonescript, especially for early
> users just diving into physical computing. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
>
> Charles Hamilton
> (not the Charles with the magic config-pin utility)

[Charles Hamilton]

Of course I was mistaken about capemgr support...Hard to keep up with RCN. Thanks for the speedy correction.

Bonescript future still TBD, I think.

Charles

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[Robert Nelson]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:14 AM, <pete.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:46:26 UTC+2, RobertCNelson wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM, <pete.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Debian and Ubuntu prerequisites:
>> >
>> > Credit to
>> >
>> > http://learn.adafruit.com/introduction-to-the-beaglebone-black-device-tree/compiling-an-overlay
>> >
>> > sudo apt-get install -y build-essential g++ python-setuptools
>> > python2.7-dev
>> > wget -c https://raw.github.com/RobertCNelson/tools/master/pkgs/dtc.sh
>> > chmod +x dtc.sh
>> > ./dtc.sh
>> >
>>

>> Well the above doesn't install bonescript...
>>
>> npm install -g bonescript
>>
>>

> So it would appear.
> However, on my Debian install there is no such thing as "npm" and trying to
> install it fails:
>
>
> root@bbb:~# uname -a
> Linux bbb 3.8.13-bone37 #1 SMP Thu Jan 23 00:56:41 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
>
> root@bbb:~# npm
> -bash: npm: command not found
>
> root@bbb:~# apt-get install npm
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to locate package npm
> root@bbb:~#

npm is only available in jessie <-> sid...

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/npm

We backported it to wheezy for beagleboard.org, so either upgrade to
jessie or feel free to use beagleboard's image.

[pete.l...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:46:26 UTC+2, RobertCNelson wrote:

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM,  <pete.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Debian and Ubuntu prerequisites:
>
> Credit to
> http://learn.adafruit.com/introduction-to-the-beaglebone-black-device-tree/compiling-an-overlay
>
> sudo apt-get install -y build-essential g++ python-setuptools python2.7-dev
> wget -c https://raw.github.com/RobertCNelson/tools/master/pkgs/dtc.sh
> chmod +x dtc.sh
> ./dtc.sh
>

Well the above doesn't install bonescript...

npm install -g bonescript

[William Hermans]

So it would appear.
However, on my Debian install there is no such thing as "npm" and trying to install it fails:

Perhaps not what you want to do . . . but if you install from source( compile from source ), you get npm .  . . then you can npm install bonescript. However, no telling what that'd do to an existing cloud9 install. It'd probably "hose" it.

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[William Hermans]

Also, I read quite some time back that installing Nodejs via the APT package manager on Wheezy was a bad idea. That is for the Wheezy official repo. Also something about npm not being included . . . which  seems you already figured out.

I do know that compiling from source works fine, but does require a specific config option to to work right on the BBB ( if not used, it will compile / install i386 binaries . . . kind of silly.)

 

I have notes somewhere when I did this myself. If interested.