Re: [beagleboard] Install Windows 8 Embedded in BeagleBone Black?

[Gerald Coley]

The answer is no. 

Gerald

On Thursday, May 23, 2013, wrote:

Any update?

On Monday, May 20, 2013 3:43:00 PM UTC+1, jian...@gmail.com wrote:

Has anyone tried it? Is that possible?

Thanks,

Jim

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[Richard Voigt]

On Monday, May 20, 2013 9:43:00 AM UTC-5, jian...@gmail.com wrote:

Has anyone tried it? Is that possible?

No, since Windows 8 only runs on 3 architectures: x86, x86_64, and IA64.  Windows Embedded is just normal desktop Windows with a different install process (and the option to leave out "standard" features that aren't needed by your product), so it has the same processor support as desktop Windows.  The Sitara processor on the BeagleBone Black is none of these.

Windows CE and Windows 8 RT do run on ARM processors, but you're still missing drivers for all the peripherals, so it would be a huge porting effort.

[Don Miller]

Amalinda,

Did you try selecting any or all of the device categories on that page and hitting the "search" button?

What results is zilch, nada, nothing!

Microsoft currently offers no BSP for the ARM335X.  They mention that they will work with vendors to get Win embedded on custom hardware, however -- so the presence of the processor on that list is just Microsoft "going fishing".

Don



On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:12:08 AM UTC-4, Amalinda J' Gamage wrote:

here you can find the ARM335X processor listed. 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/bspcatalog.aspx?fsr=1&cpu=110&manu=31&proc=1&tar=&WEItemsPerPage=10

so why cant we install? 

can anyone explain?

[William Hermans]

Yeah, I wish people would get a clue. Why in hell would you pay 2-3x as much for Windows, versus the cost for the hardware to run it ? What is it that you expect to do on Windows that you can not do on Linux ? You do realize the crappy Windows experience you would have because of the amount of RAM ?

I run Windows as my primary desktop. So I am not a Windows hater, but talk of this make NO SENSE AT ALL to me.

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[richar...@gmail.com]

That page is not discussing Windows 8 Embedded.

Windows CE != Windows 8

Windows Embedded Compact != Windows 8 Embedded

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Amalinda J' Gamage <amalind...@gmail.com> wrote:

here you can find the ARM335X processor listed. 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/bspcatalog.aspx?fsr=1&cpu=110&manu=31&proc=1&tar=&WEItemsPerPage=10

so why cant we install? 

can anyone explain?

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[richar...@gmail.com]

Actually, you have to change the vendor, since TI doesn't provide their own BSPs.  Adeneo does, and you get two hits.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/bspcatalog.aspx?fsr=1&cpu=110&proc=1&tar=&WEItemsPerPage=10

But those are for Windows CE 7.0, not Windows Embedded.  Despite having "windowsembedded" in the URL, that is a Windows CE site and not Windows 8 Embedded.

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[siddharth...@gmail.com]

I dunno if this thread is dead.

But I discovered this link: http://www.adeneo-embedded.com/en/Products/Board-Support-Packages/BeagleBone

Is there any step-by-step guide for installation as well as a few projects based on this OS ? 

[jnjserv...@gmail.com]

Hi William,

Jim's question is wether Windows can be installed in BeagleBorn Black or not. He didn't ask if it is economical or not.

[William Hermans]

How very observant of you.

[jaca...@gmail.com]

It looks like it is possible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQrYJyXJR4E

Regards

Jacob

[jgar...@gmail.com]

This seems to indicate otherwise. http://www.ti.com/product/am3358

Yes it won't be Windows 8 for x86 but Win 8 RT is for  ARM and is basically win 8 anyway.

Also Windows 8 RT is designed for the ARM architecture. Now about how to go about licensing and acquiring it. I have no clue. I do however know Win 10 will be distributed free for some ARM and Atom Architectures. So far the RPI and Intel Galileo I also suspect the Edison will also get Win 10. And probably the Beagle bone.

Also when you build and embedded widows system you defiantly have the ability to add or remove what you want. As to drivers that's is up to Beagle to make them.

[richar...@gmail.com]

How is that otherwise, you're just repeating exactly what I said:

Windows 8 cannot run on an ARM processor.

Windows RT can, but you're missing lots of drivers.  And "Windows Embedded 8" has never meant RT.  There's Windows Embedded Compact 2013, and Windows Embedded Handheld...

The only point of disagreement is that you think there is no difference between Windows 8 and Windows RT.

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