Difference between Beaglebone Console and IOT images?

[Wally Bkg]

I'm curious as to difference between the Beaglebone Console and IOT images and the reason(s) for choosing one over the other.

Even on my BBW I prefer an lxde or lxqt image as I like to be able to do ssh -X for things like gedit or geany from time to time, and I like the easy back-up and/or cloning of SD cards over flashing eMMC, but I'd like to know when an alternate image might make sense.

[Robert Nelson]

The iot image = lxqt image - lxqt/xorg...

Regards,

--
Robert Nelson
https://rcn-ee.com/

[Jason Kridner]

I believe 'ssh -X' should still be useful for you since you'd be running the X Server on your host and don't need it on the Bone.

To take this a bit further, I wonder how X11 in the browser is these days:

* https://archive.fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/webx11/

* https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6zJ8TNcWTyo&autoplay=1

* https://magcius.github.io/xplain/article/

Regards,

--
Robert Nelson
https://rcn-ee.com/

--
For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[Wally Bkg]

I'm no expert on the minimum required packages, but on my BBW Console image 2015-11-12  X apps like geany wouldn't work untill I installed xinit which sure brought in a lot of xorg stuff along with it.

My experience is that running gui applications via ssh -X (especially over the USB gadget) actually has better interaction than when running on the BBB HDMI display, so its very useful!

[Jason Kridner]

Xinit shouldn't be required, just X apps. 

[Dieter Wirz]

IIRC, I only did an "apt-get install geany".

Maybe you have to add
X11Forwarding yes
to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart the server;)

[Wally Bkg]

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-5, Dieter Wirz wrote:

IIRC, I only did an "apt-get install geany".

Maybe you have to add
X11Forwarding yes
to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart the server;)

Unless apt-get install xinit did it automatically, X11Forwarding yes seems to be the default.

Unless the server can maintain pre-existing connections during a restart, I'm sure my ssh server didn't restart as I had three other sessions open that all continue to run.

I did have to log out and log back in which then made the DISPLAY=localhost:10:0 env variable appear after the xinit install.

Having a minimal system is not important for me at this time, and probably never will be, as I prefer native development and debugging, But I think it'd be nice to have some documentation or guidance about the packaging.  Seems many of the package names vary among Jessie for Beagleboard, RPi and PCs.  I obviously end up dragging in a lot of stuff I don't really use as I stumble around trying to get all the bits and pieces I want installed.

To sort of make my point, is xapps the package named x11-apps?

I don't see xapps in the dpkg --get-selections  output on either 2015-11-12 Console or 2016-03-27 lxqt,  2016-03-27 has x11-apps, but my 2015-11-12 Console system that I've just recently got ssh-X working does not.

[Wally Bkg]

I'd like to add that I think Robert is doing an amazing job of putting together highly functional systems with his 4GB lxqt images.  I don't want anything I say taken as being critical or complaining,  I'm mostly just trying to point out issues that would likely be a showstopper for a newbie if they didn't have someone like me to hold their hands.