AW: Beagelbone Black Schematics - RESENT

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Bernhard Panait

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Apr 22, 2020, 9:32:51 AM4/22/20
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Hi Jason,

 

while doing a HW schematics I noticed a discrepancy in on the Beaglebone Black Schematics and the DDR3 chip

 

On Page 7 you have on the DDR3L 4 GB RAM chip a A0 – A15 bus wiring to the AM3558 chip  BUT

 

But the 2 MICRON Chips MT41K256M16HA-125:E and MT41K256M16TW-107:P   say A15 / PIN M7 is not Connected.

I this an error in the drawing or is A15 for the alternative Kingston Chips you have in your BB Black Parts List.

Strangely you do not get any detailed manual with pin Lazyout for the Kingston chips  ??

 

Can we wire only A0 to A14 and USE onle Micron Chips ??

 

Please comment.

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

 

Bernhard Panait

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Jason Kridner

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Apr 22, 2020, 9:05:08 PM4/22/20
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:44 AM Bernhard Panait <bernhar...@globalinvacom.com> wrote:

Hi Jason,

 

while doing a HW schematics I noticed a discrepancy in on the Beaglebone Black Schematics and the DDR3 chip

 

On Page 7 you have on the DDR3L 4 GB RAM chip a A0 – A15 bus wiring to the AM3558 chip  BUT

 

But the 2 MICRON Chips MT41K256M16HA-125:E and MT41K256M16TW-107:P   say A15 / PIN M7 is not Connected.

I this an error in the drawing or is A15 for the alternative Kingston Chips you have in your BB Black Parts List.

Strangely you do not get any detailed manual with pin Lazyout for the Kingston chips  ??

 

Can we wire only A0 to A14 and USE onle Micron Chips ??


The Kingston chips use the same pinout, which is specified by JEDEC ("JEDEC Standard No. 79-3C" should do the trick). For 256Mx16 (512MB, 4Gb) devices, A15 isn't used.

It is really just as simple as the layout supports 512Mx16 (1GB, 8Gb) devices, but aren't populated that way. If you'll never use 1GB devices, you don't need to route A15.
 

 

Please comment.

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

 

Bernhard Panait

Bernhar...@globalinvacom.com

Global Invacom Manufacturing Ltd. (APEXSAT)

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Jason Kridner

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Apr 22, 2020, 9:23:34 PM4/22/20
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:04 PM Jason Kridner <jkri...@beagleboard.org> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:44 AM Bernhard Panait <bernhar...@globalinvacom.com> wrote:

Hi Jason,

 

while doing a HW schematics I noticed a discrepancy in on the Beaglebone Black Schematics and the DDR3 chip

 

On Page 7 you have on the DDR3L 4 GB RAM chip a A0 – A15 bus wiring to the AM3558 chip  BUT

 

But the 2 MICRON Chips MT41K256M16HA-125:E and MT41K256M16TW-107:P   say A15 / PIN M7 is not Connected.

I this an error in the drawing or is A15 for the alternative Kingston Chips you have in your BB Black Parts List.

Strangely you do not get any detailed manual with pin Lazyout for the Kingston chips  ??

 

Can we wire only A0 to A14 and USE onle Micron Chips ??


The Kingston chips use the same pinout, which is specified by JEDEC ("JEDEC Standard No. 79-3C" should do the trick). For 256Mx16 (512MB, 4Gb) devices, A15 isn't used.

It is really just as simple as the layout supports 512Mx16 (1GB, 8Gb) devices, but aren't populated that way. If you'll never use 1GB devices, you don't need to route A15.

I forgot to mention to read the DDR routing guides in http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/am3358.pdf
 
 

 

Please comment.

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

 

Bernhard Panait

Bernhar...@globalinvacom.com

Global Invacom Manufacturing Ltd. (APEXSAT)

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Bernhard Panait

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May 14, 2020, 4:13:02 AM5/14/20
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Hi Jason,

 

I have 2 more questions

 

I see on the Beaglebone schematics several resistors and capacitors with DNI label which I assume is  DO NOT INSTALL.  This means the resistor and capacitors are not to be installed but the wire/wiring still to be made. PLEASE CONFIRM.

 

Which leads us to the second question:

On the LAN Chip Page 9 we have 2 split wire going via R124 and R140 DNI to  the AM3358 MII1_REFCLK(see below)

I do not have a MII1_REFCLK pin as it is used for other purposes.

 

 

As already the “”main” wires from Pin 7 go to MII_RXCLK & Pin 5 go to a Crystal Oscillator I assume the R140 wire and the R124 wires are only Backup clocks and do not need to be attached completely (wire and Resistor)  Please confirm.

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