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Borked Pseudo Mailed

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Sep 26, 2008, 1:40:18 PM9/26/08
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LA VIDEO :

Sarah Palin, Thomas Muthee and witchcraft:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj-on3kfWuE&feature=related

Une vidéo montrant la candidate à la vice-présidence américaine Sarah Palin en train d'être
bénie par un "chasseur de sorcières" kenyan a fait surface sur Internet jeudi et pourrait se
révéler embarrassante pour le camp républicain.

Présente entre autres sur le site de partage de vidéos YouTube, la vidéo montre Sarah Palin
qui participe en 2005 à une messe pentecôtiste en Alaska, où le prêcheur et exorciste
Thomas Muthee appelle à vaincre les sorcières et d'autres ennemis de celle qui n'était pas
encore gouverneure de l'Etat.

Sur cette vidéo, Sarah Palin se tient face à Thomas Muthee, la tête baissée, tandis que ses
mains sont tenues par deux membres de sa congrégation.

Dans son sermon, le prêcheur loue Sarah Palin pour sa volonté de devenir gouverneure et
appelle les autres membres de l'Eglise à atteindre des postes d'influence.

"Au nom de Jésus, au nom de Jésus, chaque forme de sorcellerie est ce que vous devez
rejeter. Au nom de Jésus, au nom de Jésus, disparaissez", ajoute-t-il, s'adressant
apparemment au Mal.

"Parlez à Dieu de cette femme (...) sauvez-la de Satan", lance encore l'exorciste. "Mon Dieu,
ouvrez-lui la voie. Apportez des fonds à sa campagne, au nom de Jésus. Utilisez-la pour que ce
pays revienne dans le droit chemin".


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Des fous de dieu dangereux ces ouéssa,
Imaginez que cette dingue devienne présidente.

un-French

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Sep 27, 2008, 4:24:27 AM9/27/08
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On Sep 26, 7:40 pm, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nob...@pseudo.borked.net>
wrote:

And you are Satan's puppet. The French are sterile, sterile because
they are godless. This is why they are diminishing in numbers, are
being invaded by their Muslim enemies and their efforts are coming to
naught. Who doesn't believe in God doesn't believe in anything. The
French are faithless ingrates that the world despises. Their
punishment is coming.

Lou Ravi

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Sep 27, 2008, 8:05:39 AM9/27/08
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un-French wrote:

> And you are Satan's puppet. The French are sterile, sterile because
> they are godless. This is why they are diminishing in numbers

The French have the highest birthrate in Europe.

Now fuck off moron.


Snide

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Sep 27, 2008, 4:28:25 PM9/27/08
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My goodness ! An american christian Ben laden !

For your information, the French are not godless. France is a REAL secular
country, unlike yours, which means that all religions have the same rigths,
therefore that the institutions and the system of education must show no
preference for a particular religion.

Religion is in the private domain, but not absent.
A slight difference that an unsubtle moron like you can't even grasp.

Denis


Aragorn

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Sep 27, 2008, 9:57:03 PM9/27/08
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On Saturday 27 September 2008 22:28, someone identifying as *Snide* wrote
in /be.politics:/

> My goodness ! An american christian Ben laden !
>
> For your information, the French are not godless. France is a REAL secular

> country, unlike yours, [...

And to use a French word for that which is also understood very well by
natively English speaking people, /touché!/ ;-)

> ...] which means that all religions have the same rigths, therefore that


> the institutions and the system of education must show no preference for a
> particular religion.
>
> Religion is in the private domain, but not absent.
> A slight difference that an unsubtle moron like you can't even grasp.

I myself was brought up as a Catholic, both in terms of my family background
and in terms of the majority of the schools I've attended, and up until a
few years ago, I was actually a Christian myself. Nowadays, I have a
rather agnostic and pragmatically scientific conviction.

As such and in parallel with the distinction made between an atheist and an
agnostic, I have come to make a distinction between "believing in a supreme
being" and religion. One can believe in a supreme being as the origin of
the universe and possibly even in the hypothesis that such a supreme being
would interact with the known universe without breaking the laws of
physics, but this does not necessarily imply religion.

According to the distinction I make, religion is when you not only believe
in a supreme entity that has created the universe and that does or does not
interact with it, but that you also attribute a certain will and certain
characteristics to this supreme entity, resulting in the subjugation of
humanity to this alleged and unverifiable will of the supreme entity
through a set of behavioral rules and worship.

As a result, not only does a religious person impose such rules upon
himself, but will also inevitably impose those rules upon his fellow human
beings and judge them accordingly. As such, a heavily religious person
will cross the boundaries between his beliefs in a supreme creator and the
everyday secular life. This tendency is very strong within Islam, but also
exists quite vividly within the United States of America, and most notably
in the Southern region.

In my book, believing in a supreme being and an eventual intelligent design
is a personal and innocent thing, while on the other hand true religion is
dangerous. We are seeing that through the actions of Al Qaeda as a
terrorist movement, but also within Islamic nations which abide by
the /sharia,/ the Islamic law.

Yet, Christianity is not exempt from similar fanaticism. During the middle
ages, us over here in Europe have known the Spanish Inquisition, where
scientists and anyone somewhat unusual were hunted down as witches and
heretics and were being tortured and put to death, out of the ridiculous
logic that if they were indeed innocent, they would die, and if they were
in league with Satan, their demonic powers would protect them. Of course,
not all of this had to do with religion per se, as the Catholic Church had
its own reasons for doing away with anyone contradicting their religious
dogmas - dogmas that themselves had already been rewritten a few times,
e.g. originally, the Catholic Church did not even equate Jesus of Nazareth
to the Son of God; this was only reinterpreted as of the fourth century on.

And now, we see Creationism arising strongly in the USA, and to a lesser
extent in the UK and Germany. All Creationist science is deliberate
misinformation, but countries such as the United States offer such
misinformation a chance to be spread among the people by allowing
Creationism to be taught in schools as a substitute for evolutionary
biology. In addition, Americans are sworn to tell the truth in court with
one hand resting on the Bible, and the American currency bills have the
words "In God We Trust" on them, as well as a number of symbols from
Freemasonry, which in itself is also a religiously inspired movement.

In other words, not only is religion in itself a dangerous phenomenon - in
the sense as I've come to explain higher up, i.e. not just the belief that
a supreme entity created the universe but also a belief in, adherence to
and enforcement of a set of laws and rules of conduct attributed to the
alleged will of this alleged supreme being - but through this assimilation
of religion into American secular matters, the United States have lost all
credibility as a secular nation and as the neutral guardian of democracy
they purport to be. (Not that I've ever fallen for that spin anyway of
course, but there are plenty of reasons unrelated to religion as to why
this is only a spin.)

As for my own beliefs, should anyone care to know, I believe that there is
no such thing as a God, but I also do believe that the universe as a whole
itself /might/ be some kind of organism - I can't really say whether it's
alive or not, because it would by nature defy all descriptions of what we
consider to be "life".

My reason for hypothesizing about the universe being an organism is that I
have come to experience certain things in my own life and in the lives of
others which lead me to conclude that not everything can be explained by
mere randomness and coincidence, and that the degree by which randomness
varies from human life to human life shows an inexplicable consistency,
which seems to adhere the entropy within the subject's life. As such,
there will indeed be the proverbial people who are "always lucky" and those
who "always have bad luck". This is putting it a bit strongly perhaps, but
you can see what I'm trying to say.

I also believe that this "organism" may not necessarily be sentient. In
fact, if the universe is "alive", then it need not be sentient at all.
Trees have been around for billions of years already and they also function
pretty well without that they require being sentient. And as such, there
is no "supreme being", and the universe - of which we all are part, because
we're all made of stardust ;-) - is neither benevolent nor malignant; it is
merely indifferent to our needs or wants and just goes about its own ways.

This is something I believe to be possible. I am not saying that this is
how it is, I am saying that I believe in a real chance of things being as
I've just come to describe them. I do not take it for granted, I do not
construct my life around this hypothesis, I do not sit on my knees and
worship the universe with prayers in a state of self-induced trance and I
equally do not impose my will or any alleged will of the universe upon my
fellow human beings.

Well... Insofar that I could be considered human, of course. I'm actually
an alien, but shhhh...! Don't tell anyone. :pp

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

un-French

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Sep 28, 2008, 4:55:06 AM9/28/08
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Th Muslims are the ones having the many children in the godless
republic of France. You are a sterile nation. Today the Muslims are
burning your cars in your cities. Tomorrow they will burn down your
homes and you will become dhimmis. There will be nothing left of your
French secular pride.
The African immigrants will take revenge on you too. They haven't
forgotten Rwanda and the crimes the French have committed in the Ivory
Coast and in other African countries. The French never apologize just
as they never say "thank you" and therefore they will be punished.

uncle

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Sep 28, 2008, 6:22:44 PM9/28/08
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"Aragorn" <ara...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Well... Insofar that I could be considered human, of course. I'm
> actually
> an alien, but shhhh...! Don't tell anyone. :pp
>

Ik vermoedde dit al: 1 Linux-gebruiker is niet van deze wereld.
u.


VH

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Sep 28, 2008, 7:37:26 PM9/28/08
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On 28 Set, 01:55, un-French <anglosphere4e...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Today the Muslims are
> burning your cars in your cities.

Good heavens. You are using a PC! Guess who invented *that*? Certainly
not the followers of the religion of piss. What ever came out of
Islam? Death, destruction and bigotry. We build airplanes and
skyscrapers. You use the planes to fly into skyscrapers. We build
trains, you bomb them. Pretty creative, huh? Especially since you
couldn't even invent explosives. You are a bunch of ignorant morons
who still believe that the earth is flat according to that lunatic
psychotic pedophile from Medina, dancing your brainless steps around a
black stone in Mecca, focus of global oblivion.
Your god must be crazy, demanding to lift your smelly asses five times
per day into the thin air, farting sheer stupidity. What have you got?
Our oil under your soil. Oil you used to light primitive lamps in your
crap tents in the barren desert, while beating up your wives as a
rehearsal for the virgins you will certainly (grin) get in paradise.

> Tomorrow they will burn down your
> homes and you will become dhimmis. There will be nothing left of your
> French secular pride.

Sure honey. That's all you can do. Burn. And fuck around of course.
Since allah hath given you a penis (albeit often too small) but not a
brain. Don't take the Western tolerance too much for granted. Your
miserable allah is no party for Reason. Reason is a creeping poison
for the bigoted ignorance of Islam. Your "muslim" children will fall
for it, slowly and fatally once they look behind their retarded
satellite dishes (another non-Islamic invention). You can't ignore the
daylight long when you're in the sunshine. Your panicky shouting
reveals panic. Resistance is futile, you will all be apostatized.

VH

Aragorn

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Sep 28, 2008, 10:05:19 PM9/28/08
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On Monday 29 September 2008 00:22, someone identifying as *uncle* wrote
in /be.politics:/

Mijn beste Obsolete en cinefiele Nonkel, ook al ware ik de enige nog
resterende ziel op deze planeet, ik weiger fundamenteel en op zowel
politiek-ideologische als technisch-ideologische gronden Microsoft Windows
te gebruiken, en mocht GNU/Linux ooit van deze aardkloot worden verbannen
door één of andere fascistisch Nieuwe Wereld Orde, dan bestaan er nog
steeds voldoende UNIX-achtige alternatieven waaruit ik zou kunnen putten.
FreeBSD, NetBSD en OpenBSD, bijvoorbeeld. Of OpenSolaris als het moet. :-)

De FOSS-beweging (Free & Open Source Software) is dan ook een bij mijn
politieke ideologie perfect aansluitend maatschappelijk fenomeen, i.e.
iedereen is vrij om te gebruiken wat hij wilt en om zich te ontplooien als
ontwikkelaar van software, maar zonder de bedoeling de andere ontwikkelaars
te beconcurreren uit imperialistische overweging, *want* in 99.99% van de
gevallen wordt de code kosteloos ter beschikking gesteld.

De GNU General Public License (GPL) is een Free Software licentie die daar
bovenop ook nog een extra democratische garantie heeft, namelijk dat
diegene die de software (her)verdeelt ook moet garanderen dat wie de
software uit zijn handen ontvangt over dezelfde rechten beschikt als de
verdeler zelf, in casu het recht om de software te installeren en gebruiken
op zoveel machines als gewenst, te herverdelen, te bestuderen en te
wijzigen en/of recycleren in andere code, mits een kleine erkentelijke
verwijzing in de gerecycleerde code naar de oorspronkelijke
ontwikkelaar. ;-)

Wat kan *daar* nu verkeerd aan zijn, nietwaar? ;-)

Message has been deleted

uncle

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Sep 29, 2008, 1:05:11 PM9/29/08
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"Aragorn" <ara...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Wat kan *daar* nu verkeerd aan zijn, nietwaar? ;-)
>

Gij verkeert goddome in 1 vruchtbare multidisciplinaire periode.
Ik zoude zelfs méér durven zeggen: na zeuven pagina's van DimitriV's
'Godverdomse dagen' mot ik bekennen dat gij ons allicht méér te vertellen
hebt.
u.

Fustigator

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Sep 29, 2008, 4:37:27 PM9/29/08
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Vitae forma vocatur Emil Tiades <emilt...@marathon.org>, die Mon, 29
Sep 2008 09:33:31 +0100, in littera <gbq3sq$mck$1...@aioe.org> in foro
be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>
>On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:05:19 +0200, Aragorn
><ara...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote:
>
>
><gobbledygook>
>
>quit xposting that shit

Wouldn't you not rather post in french language, agapite kyrie
E.Miltiadis?
--
Fusti


Aragorn

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Sep 29, 2008, 10:38:12 PM9/29/08
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On Monday 29 September 2008 19:05, someone identifying as *uncle* wrote
in /be.politics:/

> "Aragorn" <ara...@chatfactory.invalid> wrote in message


> news:XGWDk.53886$8f7....@newsfe20.ams2...
>>
>> Wat kan *daar* nu verkeerd aan zijn, nietwaar? ;-)
>
> Gij verkeert goddome in 1 vruchtbare multidisciplinaire periode.

Al heel mijn leven, Nonkel. :-)

> Ik zoude zelfs mייr durven zeggen: na zeuven pagina's van DimitriV's
> 'Godverdomse dagen' mot ik bekennen dat gij ons allicht mייr te
> vertellen hebt.

Nu, *dat* vind ik nu eens een mooi compliment, zie! :-) Waarvoor dank! :-)

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