Which graphics card? Voodoo I/II, TNT, Banshee?

[Hermans Pascal]

Hello All,

I have ugraded my K6-200 for a K6-3D-300 mhz. I am wondering which
graphics card(s) to install:
- a second-hand ATI Xpert@Work and a second-hand 3dFx Voodoo I, both on
PCI;
- a second-hand ATI Xpert@Work and a new Voodoo II, both on PCI;
- a Banshee (from 3dfx, both 2D and 3D, right?) PCI;
- a Banshee on AGP (I haven't seen any yet);
- a Riva TNT on AGP;
- a Riva TNT and second-hand Voodoo I for 3dfx compatiblity with some of
my old dos games.
Any other suggestion is welcome.

I am wondering if in a Win 95 + Direct X environment, the Voodoo 1 is
useful in combination with the ATI Xpert.

Please reply by mail as I will not be able to read news for a few days.

Thanks

Pascal Hermans

Pascal....@Dexia.be

[Chad Stansel]

Greetings,

I did a lot of research before I purchased my card. I have pretty much the
same setup as you... K6II-300 3dNow, 64megs SDRAM, Win 98.

I went with the TNT card.. 16 meg AGP... Mainly because I do not have any
games that need to support Glide and the ones coming out now and the
(recent) future will support D3D and OpenGL... Its a great card.. I am
glad I bought it.

Foresaken is excellent on it.

I also bought a SB Live which helps.

Hermans Pascal (pascal....@dexia.be) wrote:
: Hello All,

[staimen]

If you want to play any Glide games, get V2. Otherwise get TNT.

[Robin Sequira]

- a Riva TNT and second-hand Voodoo I for 3dfx compatiblity with some of
my old dos games.

Just make sure that old DOS games are really the only games you have that
need Glide.

--
"It says 'Spinach' on the outside, but we all know it's whoop-ass!"
-Me, on Popeye
"I don't think Rob has a problem getting laid at all personally.
He looks like the kind of suave ass f***** that has no problem with it."
-Saxon, on me
http://come.to/amgd - the alt.music.green-day site

Hermans Pascal wrote in message <3639AC...@dexia.be>...

[AC]

Hermans Pascal wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have ugraded my K6-200 for a K6-3D-300 mhz. I am wondering which
> graphics card(s) to install:
> - a second-hand ATI Xpert@Work and a second-hand 3dFx Voodoo I, both on
> PCI;
> - a second-hand ATI Xpert@Work and a new Voodoo II, both on PCI;
> - a Banshee (from 3dfx, both 2D and 3D, right?) PCI;
> - a Banshee on AGP (I haven't seen any yet);
> - a Riva TNT on AGP;
> - a Riva TNT and second-hand Voodoo I for 3dfx compatiblity with some of
> my old dos games.
> Any other suggestion is welcome.
>
> I am wondering if in a Win 95 + Direct X environment, the Voodoo 1 is
> useful in combination with the ATI Xpert.
>
> Please reply by mail as I will not be able to read news for a few days.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pascal Hermans
>
> Pascal....@Dexia.be

Check out http://www.anandtech.com. He has a review there of how
different graphics boards work with different chipsets. Should be really
helpful.

[joe]

There seems to ba an alarmist attitude on the internet about NOT using
the TNT chipset with anything less than a P-II. I too have a K6-2 300
MHz (68MHz X 4.5x) but I'm running it on a Socket-7 HOT-569. So you
say you get excellent frame rates for all your games? I WAS going to
go with Banshee or V2 but I'm seriously considering TNT providing I
have the horsepower.

joe

On 30 Oct 1998 08:37:30 -0500, csta...@shell.one.net (Chad Stansel)
wrote:

[vvan...@blablabla.igwe7.vub.ac.be]

: - a Banshee on AGP (I haven't seen any yet);
Cash & Carry Brussels sells these cards... bought one, excellent card.

[CriptoX]

the reason you here "NOT to get a TNT if you don't have a PII" is
simply because it requires "RAW HORSEPOWER" to push it....

this means a PII 300> or a K6-2 300> (w/ 3DNow! optimisation) you
system will suffice but the TNT will likely be slower thana V2 (but
faster than banshee) as it is CPU dependent

the TNT will be able to use higher res but it will be slower!!

[Hermans Pascal]

CriptoX wrote:
>
> the reason you here "NOT to get a TNT if you don't have a PII" is
> simply because it requires "RAW HORSEPOWER" to push it....

I fully agree from what I have seen from www.sysdoc.pair.com
,www.anandtech.com and some magazines. The TNT runs also very hot.

> this means a PII 300> or a K6-2 300> (w/ 3DNow! optimisation) you
> system will suffice but the TNT will likely be slower thana V2 (but
> faster than banshee) as it is CPU dependent

I do not fully agree: the Banshee as only one texture processor (TMU),
but its clock rate is faster than Voodoo2 (100 mhz against 90). So, if
your game does not need multi-texturing, Banshee is faster than Voodoo2.

[CriptoX]

sorry i made a mistake.....too much playing Quake2........

the Diamond Monster Fusion (Banshee) has a 115Mhz core.....and it has
a fan....

[Andrew]

Got the 16 MB Banshee got a PII and I'm real damn happy about it to.
1600x1200 RES in 2D 1024x768 in 3Dfx, Glide, OpenGL, and 30+fps. Results are
the only thing that matter not statistics so I don't really care if TNT
claims the x2 board is better or not. Also 119.00 is a great deal. Have not
had any problem running any 3Dfx game but Test Drive 4 because they never
came out with a Voodoo 2 patch.

[Christopher Patricca]

I own a Diamond Viper V550 and I am currently running a P133 chip with 32 megs
of EDO RAM. So does anybody care to tell me why I can run GL Quake at 640X480 at
around 30 frames per second? Horse power my rear end. I admit that the
performance on this card will most definitely increase as soon as I get a
processor upgrade but you don't have to have a PII to run it decently. Yes it
costs more than your Banshee chipset cards, paid $179 for mine, but it is the
faster, and better card. Not only that but in multiple 3D benchmark tests the
TNT beat out a Voodoo II even when the Voodoo II was running in Glide and the
TNT was using Direct3D! All in all I would pay the extra money for the card
myself if I was you becase it is well worth it.

[Guata 08]

The year is 2020. The world has been ravaged by a great plague, a game show host is the President of the United States, and Global warming is still on the rise. In my opinion, get the Voodoo 2, and save up for SLI. You won't regret it.