Re: Re: BCS Kuwait: FW: Dr. Ashoke Deb's Mail and Reply to the Same
Debanjan Bhattacharya
Respected Members,
Here's a confession that I have to make.
I have been a member of BCS for the last 7 years and haven't read the constitution once. While I know I should have done the same, frankly I didn't need to do the same as I always felt the great warmth & spirit of the BCS family that made us belong to this place.
Even in the challenging year of 2009, we all knew that there will emerge a Noah, & out appeared Deborshida - our "Unique Noah"! Quite expected, and therefore "nothing dramatic about it".
But I do feel that I should read the constitution now, & perhaps consider introducing a preamble on "Love, Bonhomie & Respect" that can supersede all it's subsections. ... !
Thanks Jyotida to really enthrall us with the news on new committee, which surely wasn't heart-breaking !!
Regards & "Jai Ho" to BCS
Debanjan
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 Suk Chatterjee wrote :
>Dear Dr. Deb,
>
>It seems you have enough time to write such long mails which is not only
>un-productive but also damaging. We are in a critical situation now where
>BCS is in verge of collapse. I strongly protest the way you have used the
>adjective against Dutta da.
>What constitution you are talking about in a critical situation like this ?
>If only 10% member attend the annual GBM and nobody comes forward to take
>over , any step or any anouncement to declare a President to save the
>situation is highly constitutional.
>You are a doctor , so I will give you one example.
>When the option comes to save the life of either the pregnant mother *or *her
>un-born baby , the doctors opt for saving the life of the mother. Similarly,
>in this case the one and only option is to save the BCS.
>
>Please try to understand the gravity of the situation and help to form the
>new committee.
>
>Regards,
>Sukdeb Chatterjee
>
>On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, drashoke deb <asho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > From: asho...@hotmail.com
> > To: bcskuwait...@gmail.com
> > Subject: RE: Dr. Ashoke Deb's Mail and Reply to the Same
> > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:00:22 +0530
> >
> > *Dear Mr Dutta,*
> > * *
> > *I am really glad to recieve your reply of clarification. But believe me,
> > I really did not try to hurt your feelings. You know very well that I tried
> > to assist your committee at the extent of my ability and I swear that I will
> > be happy to assist the new committee and the new President of BCS. *
> > **
> > *I believe that you know that I have nothing wrong personally against you.
> > I rather respect you as a gutsy & dynamic person. I have nothing to say
> > about the person who has been announced as the new President, rather I must
> > appreciate that he has come forward to shoulder the responsibilty at a very
> > difficult point of time.*
> > **
> > * I just can not appreciate the way he was announced to be the next
> > President. I am trying to explain again where the procedure was
> > constitutionally wrong. There is a constitution of BCS and as a member I
> > respect it. *
> > **
> > *Mr Dutta, most humbly I like to inform you that I have gone through the
> > entire BCS constitution before criticising you and I think that as a member
> > of BCS I have enough right to focus where it went wrong especially as I was
> > present in the last AGM. *
> > **
> > *The terminal AGM of 2008 BCS committee was postponed and rescheduled at
> > least thrice before it ultimately commenced on 16.02.2009. I was among the
> > few 26 members who attended the meeting (as per your mail dated 18/2/09 ).
> > *
> >
> > **
> > *According to the clauses of constitution- The New president should be
> > selected or elected in the AGM. *
> > **
> > *1) THE CLAUSE NO: 17.1.1 says that AGM shall be held at the expiry of the
> > term and by not later than 15th January of the following year. The AGM
> > commenced on 16th February 2009.*
> > * *
> > *2) THE CLAUSE NO: 18.1(A)- clearly reveals that The Notice of the AGM
> > should be given "not less than 14 days prior to it's commencement". Can you
> > please remember when was it announced? Most of the honourable member's of
> > BCS were not aware of the date. Moreover most of them could not attend
> > because it commenced on a working day. I am very fortunate to be among the
> > few persons who attended the meeting*
> > * *
> > *3) THE CLAUSE NO: 17.4 says that a QUORUM is mandatory in AGM. The Quorum
> > is the presence of at least 25% of the Members present in Kuwait. The AGM
> > was conducted with the presence of only 26 members out of about 200 existing
> > members ( of course I am not absolutely sure that out of 200 members at
> > least 100 members were out of Kuwait at that time). " A 10 minutes break was
> > given to find out the next president among the 26 members including 10
> > members of the executive committee who were present in the AGM".Is not it
> > sounding ridiculous !!! What is the significance of the AGM without Qourum
> > and what is the significance of it's MOM?*
> > **
> > *4) There is no mention in the Constitution that if no President comes out
> > in the AGM, then any Proposal in the official nomination form reaching the
> > Ex President will be announced as "BREAKING NEWS" in the electronic media
> > and will be accepted and published in the media as crucial by the Ex
> > President.*
> > **
> > *It would certainly have been better for you - if you would have send the
> > news in GROUP MAIL that a responsible and honoured member has accepted to
> > shoulder the responsiblity and later on you would have arranged an AGM to
> > give us opportunity to introduce the members with the New President and the
> > New Committee and to express opinion of the honoured members of BCS.*
> > **
> > *Mr Dutta , my membership stands just 2 years old. As a new member I was
> > surprised and shocked when I can percept that something is written in the
> > Constitution and something else is done. *
> >
> > *Please let this mail be published in the group to let me know from the
> > honoured members as well as from you where I was wrong. Hoping you in good
> > shape and health and again conveying my gratitude to you for successfully
> > conveying all the programmes of BCS 2008.*
> > * *
> > *Regards*
> > * *
> > *Dr Ashok Deb*
> > * *
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:04:17 +0300
> > Subject: Fwd: Dr. Ashoke Deb's Mail and Reply to the Same
> > From: bcskuwait...@gmail.com
> > To: bcsk...@yahoogroups.com
> > CC: asho...@hotmail.com
> >
> > Dear Dr. Deb,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have read your mail with great care and wish to humbly but firmly set the
> > record straight in the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. There was no violation of BCS� constitutional procedure as far
> > as appointment of the President was concerned as in the AGM our
> > vice-president Mr. Pinaki Sanyal very duly invited anybody from the members
> > present in the meeting to take over as the new President but, unfortunately,
> > nobody did so. This was recorded in the last item of the M.O.M. (Minutes of
> > Meeting) prepared in that AGM which is reproduced below for your quick
> > reference.
> >
> > 6. Pinaki Ranjan Sanyal (PRS) invited anyone to come
> > forward and become the President of EC 2009. A reasonable time was given
> > (with a 10-15min break) for this but no one came forward.
> >
> > Above M.O.M. was duly sent to the BCS Community on 18.02.09.
> > Therefore, the dissenting point raised by you in this regard is baseless.
> > However, once more a copy of the same M.O.M. is attached herewith in same
> > the filename, �MINUTES_OF_MEETING_AGM_-_16-2-09� as it was sent out then for
> > reference.
> >
> > May I humbly mention here *that you were also present in that AGM
> > and you witnessed the whole procedure yourself?*
> >
> > 2. Long before the AGM, a systematic official procedure to identify a
> > new EC was set in place by circulating hard copies of a �Nomination Form� in
> > four successive programmes (Annual Dinner, Annual Drama, Annual Picnic and
> > Saraswati Puja) in order to ensure that the Form reached the hands of most
> > people. However, there was no response to or action on this endeavour from
> > the community till the AGM and even till Debarshi became the President.
> >
> > *Above account, therefore, establishes that a fully constitutional and
> > logical procedure was adopted to find out a new President.*
> >
> > * *
> > Regards,
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: *drashoke deb* <asho...@hotmail.com>
> > Date: 2009/3/12
> > Subject:
> > To: j n dutta - bcs <bcskuwait...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr Dutta,
> >
> > It is a great pleasure to know that at last BCS has been able to find an
> > able President for this year. Congratulations for the New President and
> > congratulation to you in finding the new president. I always appreciated you
> > as the president of the Ex- Committee for the dramatic way you lead the team
> > all through the year.The Drama- Kenaram Becharam,The drama - Daibaddha
> > staged by you. The dramatic way of announcing the date of AGM, and finally
> > the dramatic way you announced the sudden discovery of the new President. As
> > far as the constitution of BCS is concerned- the declaration of new BCS
> > President should be declared in an AGM, and no ex president has the
> > authority to declare this by sending an e mail. So this was clearly
> > unconstitutional. Anyway this might have been a part of the drama. I hope
> > you will be kind enough to publish this mail in the group so that it would
> > come to notice of all the well wishers of our new president.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dr Ashok Behari Deb
> >
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> >
> > --
> > Jyotirindra Narayan Dutta
> >
> > President
> > Bengali Cultural Society, Kuwait - 2008
> >
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