On April 8, a bill was introduced into the Canadian House of Commons that
has highly worrisome implications for natural health products and those who
consume and use them. The same implications might be in store for Americans
as well.
Follow this link to the original source: "Canadian Rights And Freedoms Are
At Risk"
http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/c51backups/Canadian%20Rights%20Facts.htm
A newly proposed law in Canada, Bill C-51, just may outlaw up to 60 percent
of natural health products currently sold in Canada — and criminalize people
who use them. Bill C-51 which makes significant changes to Canada’s Food and
Drugs Act, was introduced into the House of Commons by the Canadian Minister
of Health. The first reading on April 8 was followed by it’s second reading
on April 28, barely time for consumers, trade groups, and elected
representatives to examine, debate, or compose official positions.
Acts in Canada must pass three readings in both legislative houses before
becoming law. This is supposed to give representatives and the general
public time to become aware of any proposed changes, have them debated, and
give their consent. On the other hand, Regulations are published in the
newspaper twice and can then be signed into law. Parliament does not vote on
Regulations. (Keep this bit in mind for later.)
The text of the lengthy bill describes many changes to be made to Canada’s
Food and Drugs Act and seems to have left no stone unturned. The sweeping
changes are couched in the increasingly broad language we have come to
expect from bureaucratic governments. The language leaves the door wide open
for extreme governmental regulation, licensing, and enforcement that would
have devastating consequences on an entire industry and millions of
consumers.
One of the radical changes the proposed bill offers is in terminology. The
word "drug" will be replaced with the term "therapeutic product." This one
change alone could effectively put all vitamins, herbs, supplements, and
even some foods under the complete control of the government. The term
"sell" would now include anyone who sells, buys, or uses "therapeutic
products," and anyone who administers those products.
It will be the government’s delegates who will decide on the regulation,
licensing, marketing, inspecting, and enforcing of all changes listed in the
new bill. So it’s interesting to note that the inspection and seizure powers
in Bill C-51 are greatly expanded from the original Food and Drugs Act that
is presently enforced by Health Canada. Attorney Shawn Buckley has done an
excellent job dissecting and analyzing C-51 (click on “Legal Review”) and
has this to say about the newly proposed inspection and seizure powers:
The inspecting and seizure powers found in s. 23 of the Act are increased
to:
• give inspectors authority to enter private property to prevent
non-compliance with the Act or Regulations;
• enter conveyances for the purposes of inspections;
• enter places where even a document relating to the Act and Regulations
may be located… Note that document is defined in Bill C-51 to include
information that can be read by a computer or device so if your blackberry
is in your car, the car can be searched;
• take samples free of charge… There is no limit to the value of the
samples;
• seize and detain for any time anything connected to the Act and
Regulations such as products and equipment;
• enter on and pass through or over private property without any liability
and without the owner of the property having the right to object;
• charge the owner for storage of seized property;
• if inspectors believe on reasonable grounds the seized property could be
injurious to human health they can dispose of it at the expense of the owner
or direct the owner to dispose of it;
The inspectors are given apparently unlimited powers to enforce the Act and
Regulations. They can order a Canadian citizen to stop doing anything that
they deem is a contravention of the Act. Section 31 is amended to make it an
offense not to do something the Minister or an inspector directs person to
do or not do.
And the new penalties for indictable and summary infractions of the Act or
Regulations increase by 1,000 times. A first offense results in a $250,000
fine and/or imprisonment of up to 6 months; subsequent offences will run
$500,000 and/or up to 18 months in prison; and indictable offences
$5,000,000 (six zeros are correct) and/or imprisonment of up to 2 years.
Willful and/or reckless violations, or not listening to the Minister or an
inspector are just as extreme.
In the "Definitions Et Interpretation" section of C-51, the term
"government" will now mean any of the following "or their institutions, as
applicable:"
a) the federal government;
b) a corporation named in Schedule III to 10 of the Financial
Administration Act,
c) a provincial government or a public body established under an Act of
the legislature of a province,
d) an aboriginal government as defined in subsection 13(3) of the Access
to Information Act,
e) a government of a foreign state or of a subdivision of a foreign state,
or
f) an international organization of states. [Emphasis added.]
Defining "government" to include foreign states and/or international
organizations is a segue into section 30 which states:
A regulation may incorporate by reference documents produced by a person or
body other than the Minister of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency
including:
a) an organization established for the purpose of writing standards,
including an organization accredited by the Standards Council of Canada;
b) an industrial or trade organization; or
c) a government
This clever little addition apears to allow the Canadian government to make
documents prepared by foreign "governments" the law in Canada simply by
passing a regulation incorporating the documents as regulations. The UN’s
infamous CODEX Alimentarius, Latin for “food code,” could become law without
Parliamentary approval if it’s referred to as a regulation.
The text of C-51 states directly that the changes to Canada’s Food and Drug
Acts are for "the purpose of implementing, in relation to drugs, Article
1711 of the North American Free Trade Agreement on paragraph 3 of Article 39
of the Agreement on Trade-related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights
set out in Annex 1C to the WTO Agreement."
So there is a method and a purpose to this madness, and it’s not about
public health safety. This should serve as yet another warning and reason
for the U.S. to withdraw from NAFTA.
And this brings us to the crux of the matter for Americans.
The FDA is presently conferencing with its regulatory counterparts in Canada
and Mexico to draft one set of food and drug standards for all three
countries. Besides the FDA, Health Canada and Mexico’s Secretaria de Salud
are committed to harmonizing regulations for all three countries without any
legislative oversight or public input under the Trilateral Cooperation
Charter. The TCC has as one of their principles, "The use of problem-solving
techniques and consensual decision-making processes," in the area of health
and safety issues. They expect their members to abide by the TCC’s Steering
Committee decisions and "assist in their implementation."
But what effect will this have on the United States if the TCC decides to
use Canada’s newly overhauled Food and Drug Acts as the standard by which
all three countries will now regulate and license foods and drugs? Will the
United States’ Food and Drug act be coopted by the implementation of the TCC
’s decisions? Certainly, if a convergence or integration takes place via the
North American Union, chances of implementation of the TCC’s decisions would
be far easier and more probable.
Follow this link to the original source: "Canadian Rights And Freedoms Are
At Risk"
http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/c51backups/Canadian%20Rights%20Facts.htm
Heroin is an herbal supplement.
>On May 9, 12:56 pm, "The General Public:... Lobotomized Sheep" ..
>
>Heroin is an herbal supplement.
No it isn't cocksucker, it is a refined and doctored product.
And it is already illegal, cocksucker.
What kind of fag ass commie are you anyhow, the government is out of
control, just like you get when you don't get your big Pharma drugs, you
fucking kook
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Canada's Bill C-51 May Outlaw Natural Health Food Products
Ann Shibler
JBS
Friday, May 9, 2008
On April 8, a bill was introduced into the Canadian House of Commons that
has highly worrisome implications for natural health products and those who
consume and use them. The same implications might be in store for Americans
as well.
Follow this link to the original source: "Canadian Rights And Freedoms Are
At Risk"
http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/c51backups/Canadian%20Rights%20Facts.htm
A newly proposed law in Canada, Bill C-51, just may outlaw up to 60 percent
of natural health products currently sold in Canada - and criminalize people
. give inspectors authority to enter private property to prevent
non-compliance with the Act or Regulations;
. enter conveyances for the purposes of inspections;
. enter places where even a document relating to the Act and Regulations
may be located. Note that document is defined in Bill C-51 to include
information that can be read by a computer or device so if your blackberry
is in your car, the car can be searched;
. take samples free of charge. There is no limit to the value of the
samples;
. seize and detain for any time anything connected to the Act and
Regulations such as products and equipment;
. enter on and pass through or over private property without any liability
and without the owner of the property having the right to object;
. charge the owner for storage of seized property;
. if inspectors believe on reasonable grounds the seized property could be
wow that was effective TWO net loons frothing at the mouth with just
five words .. ten simple syllables.
That is what I call ROI!
No I call you a retarded idiot, who doesn't see that the government is
strting to act like the bush government you fucking wanker.
Canada's Bill C-51 May Outlaw Natural Health Food Products
Ann Shibler
JBS
Friday, May 9, 2008
On April 8, a bill was introduced into the Canadian House of Commons that
has highly worrisome implications for natural health products and those who
consume and use them. The same implications might be in store for Americans
as well.
Follow this link to the original source: "Canadian Rights And Freedoms Are
At Risk"
http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/c51backups/Canadian%20Rights%20Facts.htm
A newly proposed law in Canada, Bill C-51, just may outlaw up to 60 percent
of natural health products currently sold in Canada - and criminalize people
. give inspectors authority to enter private property to prevent
non-compliance with the Act or Regulations;
. enter conveyances for the purposes of inspections;
. enter places where even a document relating to the Act and Regulations
may be located. Note that document is defined in Bill C-51 to include
information that can be read by a computer or device so if your blackberry
is in your car, the car can be searched;
. take samples free of charge. There is no limit to the value of the
samples;
. seize and detain for any time anything connected to the Act and
Regulations such as products and equipment;
. enter on and pass through or over private property without any liability
and without the owner of the property having the right to object;
. charge the owner for storage of seized property;
. if inspectors believe on reasonable grounds the seized property could be
Might be tough to do, since Bush will be out of office by the end of
Feburary.
Is that Bush? Or the Democrats who hold majorities the Senate and Congress?
Just asking and expecting more of the usual blubbering rants and assorted ad
hominems from the paranoid Kook.
I thought that it was all about the Bilderbergers and other secret societies
like the Freemasons, Bohemian Grove and those fat guys who build hospitals
and parade around in tiny, little toy cars!
And when did the Democrats win their majorities??
Anything that passes through congress can be, and has been
VETOED by herr busche.
Wow, you two bumbling idiots, seem to justify the Neo-Nazi Conservative
brownshirt terrorist puppets in office, and their American state kooks, they
bend over for all in the name of security......
And yet, at the same time, you useful idiots just can't stand the truth when
it's in your pathetic faces...Instead, you kooks with your lies, babble and
babble and drool all over yourselves, everytime your terrorist friends get
shown up for what they are, criminals and puppets for the global elite
trash! You will get your death cult and they will do away with you and your
families soon enough....So you should be pleased at least about that!
The Conservatives' are nothing more then a terrorist cult of freaks and
kooks now, that are not worth voting for...!
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When Clinton was President, and the Republicans were in charge of the
Congress and the Senate, he vetoed over 60 bills.
Bush didn't begin to veto legislation until after the Dems took over the
legislature.
It's their way, buddy. Learn how it works.
Bullshit! Typical new-age/alt-med paranoia. Try a reputable source.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080509/C51_protests_080509/20080510
Europe has far stricter regulations, and even requires prescriptions for some herbal meds:
"In terms of legal status, herbal medicines are fully considered as medicines. This legal position
was confirmed by the European Court of Justice in 1992. On 1 January 1978, the Second Medicines Act
came into force which set new standards for the granting of marketing authorization in accordance
with the European framework for the handling of medicines [56]. Under this new regulation, proof of
quality, safety, and efficacy became an essential pre-condition for the registration of medicines."
Nope!!!!!!
>Typical new-age/alt-med paranoia. Try a reputable source.
No I contacted the lying scamming piece of shit conservatives' and was told
huge lies, just like you fucking kooks and whores are telling the public,
all because you whores are yourselves pimping out your stupidity as you
willfully ignorant shits buy every thing the government whores tell you as
the phony truth they sell you.....
Canada's Bill C-51 May Outlaw Natural Health Food Products
Ann Shibler
JBS
Friday, May 9, 2008
On April 8, a bill was introduced into the Canadian House of Commons that
has highly worrisome implications for natural health products and those who
consume and use them. The same implications might be in store for Americans
as well.
Follow this link to the original source: "Canadian Rights And Freedoms Are
At Risk"
http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/c51backups/Canadian%20Rights%20Facts.htm
A newly proposed law in Canada, Bill C-51, just may outlaw up to 60 percent
of natural health products currently sold in Canada - and criminalize people
. give inspectors authority to enter private property to prevent
non-compliance with the Act or Regulations;
. enter conveyances for the purposes of inspections;
. enter places where even a document relating to the Act and Regulations
may be located. Note that document is defined in Bill C-51 to include
information that can be read by a computer or device so if your blackberry
is in your car, the car can be searched;
. take samples free of charge. There is no limit to the value of the
samples;
. seize and detain for any time anything connected to the Act and
Regulations such as products and equipment;
. enter on and pass through or over private property without any liability
and without the owner of the property having the right to object;
. charge the owner for storage of seized property;
. if inspectors believe on reasonable grounds the seized property could be
What a fucking idiot you are, besides being willfully ignorant twit
"Continuity of Gov't Planning has ... Already Superseded the Constitution"
The White House will not agree to follow the Constitution and the rule of
law, or even to disclose whether or not the COG plans which were implemented
on 9/11 are still in effect, unless the public demands it.
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"Continuity of Gov't Planning has ... Already Superseded the Constitution"
George Washington's Blog
Saturday, May 10, 2008
UC Berkeley Professor Emeritus Peter Dale Scott has warned:
"If members of the Homeland Security Committee cannot enforce their right
to read secret plans of the Executive Branch, then the systems of checks and
balances established by the U.S. Constitution would seem to be failing.
To put it another way, if the White House is successful in frustrating
DeFazio, then Continuity of Government planning has arguably already
superseded the Constitution as a higher authority."
What's he talking about?
Well, in the summer 2007, Congressman Peter DeFazio, on the Homeland
Security Committee (and so with proper security access to be briefed on COG
issues), inquired about continuity of government plans, and was refused
access. Indeed, DeFazio told Congress that the entire Homeland Security
Committee of the U.S. Congress has been denied access to the plans by the
White House (video; or here is the transcript). The Homeland Security
Committee has full clearance to view all information about COG plans.
DeFazio concluded: "Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out
there are right".
Professor Scott's point that COG planning may have already superseded the
Constitution can be summarized by making an analogy. Let's assume that the
police are not supposed to seize and sell a suspect's house unless a court
has held a full trial and found that person guilty of a certain offense. And
let's say that the police seize and sell somebody's house, but that the
suspect's relatives cannot find any record that there has been a trial, let
alone a finding of guilt by the court.
Let's say they go to the City Council (which is the local counterpart of the
U.S. Congress -- that is, part of the legislative branch), and the City
Council asks the police if the suspect was found guilty by the court. If the
police refuse to even answer the City Council's question, that shows that
the rule of law has broken down. In other words, whether or not there was a
trial and a guilty verdict, the failure of the police to answer the question
shows that the police (part of the executive branch) are acting outside of
the law by failing to respect the separation of powers between the police
and the City Council.
As Steven Aftergood, of the Federation of American Scientists Project on
Government Secrecy, notes:
"Of the 54 National Security Presidential Directives issued by the [George
W.] Bush Administration to date, the titles of only about half have been
publicly identified. There is descriptive material or actual text in the
public domain for only about a third. In other words, there are dozens of
undisclosed Presidential directives that define U.S. national security
policy and task government agencies, but whose substance is unknown either
to the public or, as a rule, to Congress."
Similarly, Senator Russ Feingold, a member of the Senate Intelligence and
Judiciary committees, wrote yesterday in the Los Angeles Times:
"The memos on torture policy that have been released or leaked hint at a
much bigger body of law about which we know virtually nothing. The Yoo memo
was filled with references to other Justice Department memos that have yet
to see the light of day, on subjects including the government's ability to
detain U.S. citizens without congressional authorization and the
government's ability to bypass the 4th Amendment in domestic military
operations.
Another body of secret law involves the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
Act (FISA). In 1978, Congress created the special FISA court to review the
government's requests for wiretaps in intelligence investigations, which
is -- and should be -- done behind closed doors. But with changes in
technology and with this administration's efforts to expand its surveillance
powers, the court today is doing more than just reviewing warrant
applications. It is issuing important interpretations of FISA that have
effectively made new law.
These interpretations deeply affect Americans' privacy rights, and yet
Americans don't know about them because they are not allowed to see them.
Very few members of Congress have been allowed to see them either. When the
Senate recently approved some broad and controversial changes to FISA,
almost none of the senators voting on the bill could know what the law
currently is.
The code of secrecy also extends to yet another body of law: changes to
executive orders. The administration takes the position that a president can
"waive" or "modify" a published executive order without any public notice --
simply by not following it. It's every president's prerogative to change an
executive order, but doing so without public notice works a secret change in
the law. And, because the published order stays on the books, Congress and
the public have no idea that it's no longer in effect. We don't know how
many of these covert changes have been made by this administration or, for
that matter, by past administrations.
***
Keeping the law secret doesn't enhance national security, but it does give
the government free rein to operate without oversight or accountability.
Even the congressional intelligence committees, which are supposed to
oversee the intelligence community, have been denied access to some of these
legal opinions.
Congress should pass legislation to require the administration to alert
Congress when the law created by Justice Department opinions ignores or even
violates the laws passed by Congress, and to require public notice when it
is waiving or modifying a published executive order. Congress and the public
shouldn't have to wonder whether the executive branch is following the laws
that are on the books or some other, secret law."
Like all important political issues of the day, the government will not
agree to to the right thing unless the public demands it. The White House
will not agree to follow the Constitution and the rule of law, or even to
disclose whether or not the COG plans which were implemented on 9/11 are
still in effect, unless the public demands it. Professor Scott stresses the
importance of citizen activism in this regard:
"Will Congress insist on its right of review COG? The answer to this
question will depend on discussion in the blogosphere, the degree of
pressure exerted by the electorate on their representatives, and the
questions asked the men and women who would be president."
I join Professor Scott's call for public input, and urge We Are Change -
style citizen activism regarding COG. Specifically, I urge people to bring
videocameras and to ask Congress people, White House officials and
spokespeople, judges, and every other high-level official whether COG plans
are currently in effect, to film their responses, and to post the video on
the Web.
And who is, Mark?
If you don't vote, don't bitch and complain about the outcome.
If you want change, run in the election yourself rather than sitting there
farting into your chair while writing junk.
You certainly don't represent the majority of Canadians, Mark and never
have.
and we suppose you're going to be protected from anything that happens to
the majority of Canadians?
Guess again, sport. If we all go, so do you.
You're not in any privileged or special class, and until the time comes, you
keep babbling like a idiot like you always do.
What odds will you post for me against that happening?
Oh, well that makes ok then.... As long as we're not the most oppressed,
that makes it easier to swallow... no pun intended.
I understand that things are even worse in some third-world shithole
dictatorships, so we should be dancing int he streets and praising out
political masters and their big-money clients for only oppressing us a
little bit. hey... if it saves even one life...