United Nations Gang And The Hells Angels
Greg Carr
(There are 124 the last time I read anything about it as oppossed to 50 a yr
before. The Five Crowns gang seems to have fallen apart because of heroin
addiction.)
They grow dope, sell coke, use guns, knives or hitmen to halt opposition
Andy Ivens
The Province
Friday, August 10, 2007
Ten years in the trenches, riding herd on Vancouver's violent street gangs,
has left Det. Doug Spencer with the kind of despair that comes from trying
to push water uphill.
"I was almost running in sand," said Spencer, who recently left the gang
squad to join the Vancouver police youth squad.
"We'd catch these guys and, of course, the courts would give them nothing. I
thought, it's better to be pro-active and try to get to some of the youth to
try and enlighten these kids," he told The Province yesterday.
(Believe me no one likes going to the VPD lock-up. I understand the
frustrastion to a certain point but these ppl hate arrest so much they will
flee, fight and hurt ppl who help the police.)
He offers a short list of the street gangs that are terrorizing the Lower
Mainland.
UN GANG
"They have a complete propensity for violence. If you cross them, they'll
shoot you.
"They've actually been going at it with the bikers for a couple of years out
in the Valley there. The Hells Angels want nothing to do with them. The
[Angels] don't want to get down in the dirt with them.
"The UN are on their way up and they have huge numbers" -- 100 members and
100 associates.
(Seen them around and it has been reported that they have forced the Hell's
Angels to buy their cocaine. Recently had a big bust of two of their members
in the Interior.)
HELLS ANGELS
"The Hells Angels have arrived. They're all millionaires."
(Even I don't believe this. Sure they have lots of rich gangsters that is
well documented but I have seen some that appear to be living in avg homes
or even dumps and they didn't appear to have much money.)
Once the major crime group in the marijuana trade, the Angels are struggling
to find new markets for their illegal crop.
(There are still independents growing pot and the Vietnamese and other Asian
gangs and I'm sure some of the Indo gangs are into the trade as well. I've
heard quotes of 90% Asian gang control of marihuana.)
"There's so much marijuana out there that there's a lack of a customer base
for them [in B.C.]."
(Yet ppl still sometimes smuggle it into the province.)
With relatively few full-patch members at the top -- less than 100 scattered
in a handful of chapters across B.C. -- they employ "prospects,"
"hang-arounds" and "friends of the club" to do most of the dirty work.
(Lots of arrests and convictions of gang members and police infiltration and
surveillance and media scrutiny and pressure from individual citizens seems
to be at a record high. One club president has complained of being harrassed
in restaurants. They seem to be in slow decline.)
INDO-CANADIAN GANGS
"They seem to be made up of five or six individual cell groups.
"One group will sell coke. One group will do marijuana grows.
"They're all friends and associates.
"If push comes to shove, they would all come together and fight whomever."
Spencer estimates their numbers at roughly 200.
VIETNAMESE GANGS
"They're all over the [marijuana] grow business.
"A lot of the Vietnamese who came here are farmers. They know how to grow
stuff, plus they are in all the trades -- electricians -- they're
hard-working people."
Spencer said out of 283 grow-ops busted by Vancouver's Green Team in a
recent year, 250 were run by Vietnamese.
He estimates their ranks at 300 to 400.
INDEPENDENT SOLDIERS
"They are an East Van-based Indo group.
"The UN and the Independent Soldiers don't like each other. They've had a
few shootings downtown, rivalling each other. They're basically
competitors."
There are "about 100" of them.
LATIN-AMERICAN GANGS
"They're more of a street gang, just clearly for the rep.
(I've seen some MS-13 tags and they have a very, violent reputation.)
"They sell a little dope, but they're more into the real gangster street
culture where if you look at me wrong, I knife you or shoot you.
"Combined, there are maybe 100, but quite young, sometimes still in high
school. But not very organized."
BIG CIRCLE BOYS
"They control about 80 per cent of the heroin that comes into Vancouver.
"If you confront them, they bring in a hitman from the Orient. He does the
killing and he's back in Hong Kong the next day. You'll never catch them.
"They control about 95 per cent of the loan-sharking in Vancouver. They're
around the casinos all the time, those guys."
Spencer put their numbers in the hundreds.
"They have hundreds of associates. They use younger guys to collect the
gambling debts.
"All the gangs have jumped on this debt-collection by doing these
kidnappings."
© The Vancouver Province 2007
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=6487ad7b-4298-4704-9cba-0f54d6548846
SURREY WHAT?? Doesn't even get a mention. They sometimes are in Vancouver.
Another Hell's Angel killed in England.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23408138-details/Hell's%20Angel%20shot%20dead%20as%20he%20rides%20on%20motorway/article.do
HA
is involved with
extortion, homicide, kidnapping, prostitution, meth and cocaine
dealing, rape, armed robbery and motorcycle theft and child
pornography
as well as phoney currency and witness intimidation and obstruction of
justice. They have been known to bribe and scare law enforcement
officers and judges into doing their bidding. These ppl must be
rooted
out of the Cdn justice system. Two judges have actually done their
job
and declared HAMC a criminal org and the Victoria Times-Colonist is
calling for it to be banned as a terrorist org.
The White Rock chapter Sgt.Of Arms, Villy Roy Lynnerup, recently was
arrested for trying to board an airplane at YVR
with a loaded firearm. Was probably going to crash the plane into the
Downtown courthouse or hold the passengers hostage in exchange for
the
release of Moms Boucher and all imprisoned full patch members. All
the
Hell's Angels, their supporters, associates etc. should be imprisoned
for twenty years
their children put in foster care and their assets seized.
Ppl are trying to get HAMC listed as a terrorist org. If you support this
then write letters to editors of local newspapers and your local MP.
As well John Les the solicitor-general of BC has advocated banning
the wearing of gang colours such as biker patches in bars. Since HA
is
known to frequent the College Place and the Cecil and has links to
various bars in BC that would be an improvement. The gang has a
history of intimidating
bartenders, infiltrating unions involved in the bar industry, beating
and killing strippers and beating customers to death at random for no
reason. Contact your MLA as well as the local media and tell them you
want this implemented sooner rather than later.
VPD is appealing again for info about the homicide of Maria Yvette
Monzon who was shot dead on the westside of Vancouver. She was killed
by HA but the police have never stated that. There is a reward.
Art Hanger the chair of the Justice Committee can be contacted at:
Hill Office
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6 (No postage required.)
Telephone: (613) 947-4487
Fax: (613) 947-4490
EMail: Hang...@parl.gc.ca
Web Site:* www.arthangermp.com/
Preferred Language: English Constituency Offices
2635 - 37th Avenue NE, Suite 140
Calgary, Alberta
T1Y 5Z6
Telephone: (403) 291-0018
Fax: (403) 291-9516
el duderino
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca>
Greg Carr is a convicted criminal and has been caught lying here multiple
times. He doesn't defend his lies, he runs away.
Greg Carr is in favour of killing people for nothing other than wearing a
Hells Angels shirt.
Greg Carr thinks all gays should be killed. But, his advice to gays is to
simply try women, to focus on the mouth.
Greg Carr frequently brags about having a large penis, and says "everyone
knows it".
Greg Carr, a good christian, frequently posts insults about a person's
mother involved in bizarre sex acts.
Greg Carr was beat up by a hooker and a pimp, last year, when they caught
him watching their interactions. He went to the police but they dismissed
his claims.
Greg, you can't dispute any of the above, the proof is all in this
newsgroup.
<isahan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Your name is Greg Paul Carr,born March 6th,1965. You used to live at
> 320-13325 105 ave in Surrey.You at one time worked for HUDD
> DISTRIBUTION(formally DSL) until you stopped showing up for work.You
> were charged with CRIMINAL harassment charges in 2004 for your never
> ending BS harassment against persons at your former employers.This
> would include threats,letters,& postings.You ended up not going to
> trial & were placed under a "peace-bond"for a year with several
> conditions.
>
> You have had a run in with persons at a parking lot company in
> Vancouver ,as you were caught writing graffitti in one of their lots.
> (theres a good use of your time).You have held many dead end temp
> postions with several companies in the lower mainland.Usually
> warehouse jobs.
>
>
> I can go on.
>
>
> I`ll ask again; You make statements regarding this Beck guy & other
> persons,but yet provide no proof?Show me the proof?You can`t....
>
> P.S....Your description:
>
>
> You are about 5' 9",weight about 165lbs,have light brown hair,(which
> used to be long .Some might say that you looked a bit like John
> Lennon)and wear glasses.
Michael Yardley
I agree with one thing you say and that is the HA should be made a
terrorist organization
Michael Yardley
Bo Raxo
"Michael Yardley" <ggttt...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>
> I agree with one thing you say and that is the HA should be made a
> terrorist organization
Legalize the drugs and the Angels are just a bunch of losers with loud bikes
and poor hygiene. You'll never put an end to the gangs until you put an end
to the Prohibition that gives them an economic model.
Bo Raxo
klunk
"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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at the very least, they or their competition wouldn't be invading homes to
steal the cash crops; valuable properties wouldn't be destroyed from being
used as grow-ops; otherwise innocent people wouldn't have their lives ruined
by criminal records for partaking in otherwise (relatively) harmless
activities; valuable funding and manpower resources for addressing real
crimes can be freed up for our police; governments would be able to cash in
big time on a potentially enormous amount of taxes collected; less public
property would be vandalized if people toked up instead of drank themselves
silly (which would also result in reduced health-care costs); an entire
cottage industry would contribute significantly toward our economy while
creating more jobs for people.... did i miss anything?
oh... and while we're at it, we may as well legalize prostitution and allow
women (and men) who get trapped in such a lifestyle to have real
opportunities to survive and escape such demeaning forms of labour while
also taking an even bigger bite out of the criminal economic model...
as for gun-running... well, that's just another kettle of fish... but with
the above two changes, there'd be a lot less need to "protect one's criminal
investment activities"...
let's prevent crime by taking away incentives to commit it... sounds too
simple to be anything more than lunacy?... only to hypocritical
religio-fascists who fancy themselves as being morally superior and
hell-bent on controlling other people's lives through subjective values
they've not bothered to examine in any depth...
eventually, like what's been happening to gambling, greed will be the
determining factor for influencing changes to these laws...
Greg Carr
eventually happen to the other major drugs.
"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
Bo Raxo
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Opium was wiped out and it was once a major problem and hopefully it will
> eventually happen to the other major drugs.
>
Opium was wiped out because some moved on to heroin, others to pills.
That's like saying Prohibition worked because almost nobody still drinks
moonshine.
Offsho...@nospam.com
<crimene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Michael Yardley" <ggttt...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:Vi5wi.55182$_d2.14940@pd7urf3no...
>
>>
>> I agree with one thing you say and that is the HA should be made a
>> terrorist organization
>
>Legalize the drugs and the Angels are just a bunch of losers with loud bikes
>and poor hygiene.
Hardly, stupid. They don't become victimizers because of economics
any more than terrorists become killers because of sex.
> You'll never put an end to the gangs until you put an end
>to the Prohibition that gives them an economic model.
Just like with guns. Oops! Hey, and while were at it, why all the
prohibitions on cigarettes? Bwahahahahahaha!
>Bo Raxo
TOPoster.
military planes
--
Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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John Howard
> I agree with one thing you say and that is the HA should be made a
> terrorist organization
Me too!
John Howard
Right on Bo Raxo!!
John Howard
"klunk" <kl...@theothershoe.org> wrote in message
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> at the very least, they or their competition wouldn't be invading homes to
> steal the cash crops; valuable properties wouldn't be destroyed from being
> used as grow-ops; otherwise innocent people wouldn't have their lives
> ruined by criminal records for partaking in otherwise (relatively)
> harmless activities; valuable funding and manpower resources for
> addressing real crimes can be freed up for our police; governments would
> be able to cash in big time on a potentially enormous amount of taxes
> collected; less public property would be vandalized if people toked up
> instead of drank themselves silly (which would also result in reduced
> health-care costs); an entire cottage industry would contribute
> significantly toward our economy while creating more jobs for people....
> did i miss anything?
Nope You pretty well covered it all. Well and truly said, klunk. This
citizen of Canada wonders why our border with the US is so insecure and full
of holes? Hmmmmm? Could more than the HA be benefiting?
John Howard
"TOPoster." <TOPo...@Poster.com.> wrote in message
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> Afghanistan had the best crop ever this year, and it is coming to Canada
> in
> military planes
So you say. Do you have a source for this allegation?
klunk
"John Howard" <n...@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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since the U.S. government holds a patent on THC, that's very likely...
Bo Raxo
<Offsho...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:56:42 -0700, "Bo Raxo"
> <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Yardley" <ggttt...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>news:Vi5wi.55182$_d2.14940@pd7urf3no...
>>
>>>
>>> I agree with one thing you say and that is the HA should be made a
>>> terrorist organization
>>
>>Legalize the drugs and the Angels are just a bunch of losers with loud
>>bikes
>>and poor hygiene.
>
> Hardly, stupid. They don't become victimizers because of economics
> any more than terrorists become killers because of sex.
>
Oh sure, rape and selling drugs, why there's a couple of very parallel
crimes with similar motivations, rewards, and business models.
Sheesh, are you actually this stupid? Sweet evil Jesus, yes, you are.
Bo Raxo
Can't patent a natural substance.
klunk
you're right... my bad... that was Marinol, a synthetic derivative from
marijuana:
http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/pop/GovDrugHist.htm
"In 1981, the government agreed to sell the patent for Marinol, a synthetic
form of one of marijuana's active ingredients, to Unimed Pharmaceuticals,
now in Buffalo, IL. Unimed applied to the FDA for permission to market the
pill as a treatment of the nausea and vomiting associated with cancer
chemotherapy in patients who have failed to respond adequately to
conventional anti-emetic (anti-nausea) treatments. In November 1984, the FDA
rejected Unimed's application because clinical tests that had been done on
the drug were deficient. But Unimed hustled up some more data, and by June
1985 the FDA delivered its approval. The DEA placed it into Schedule II."
--------------
although:
http://www.hempbc.com/articles/3263.html
Canada's patent law – unlike that in the US – does not allow as much
latitude to patent medicinal plants outright. Canada requires some
"purification" process here first. Hence, in Canada we will see the THC
patented as "Tetranabinex" and CBD patented as "Nabidiolex." The outright
strain patent on, say, "Panama Red" would be reserved for the US.
In an interview with Pot-TV, law professor Ikechi Mgbeoji of the University
of British Columbia agreed that it was possible that big drug companies
could try to patent currently illegal medicinal plants, such as poppies,
coca and cannabis. These plants, or extracts thereof, could be reintroduced
with the claim that they've been gone from the market long enough to qualify
as "new" and "distinct" species under the 1961 Plant Patent Act, and thus be
subject to patent law.
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http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=664
Efforts to reclassify marijuana are being stifled by a lack of support from
large pharmaceutical companies. Drug companies cannot patent marijuana and,
therefore, do not stand to gain anything from lobbying for its rescheduling.
In fact, they will lose substantial profits if marijuana is prescribed to
relieve symptoms that are currently treated with a veritable cocktail of
prescription medication. Additionally, rescheduling falls under the
discretion of U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft - enough said.
el duderino
>
It'd be very easy to if they wanted to. Just make it an issue of national
security.. voila.
Greg Carr
>
> "Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:SRcwi.57300$_d2.33373@pd7urf3no...
>> Opium was wiped out and it was once a major problem and hopefully it will
>> eventually happen to the other major drugs.
>>
>
> Opium was wiped out because some moved on to heroin, others to pills.
> That's like saying Prohibition worked because almost nobody still drinks
> moonshine.
I have run into a few over the yrs and here in BC a few ppl go blind every
once in awhile from drinking it on a BC Ferry. All the opium dens are long
gone and it was once considered a major scourge.
Greg Carr
Mules only get $1500 to get grugs through the border and it is the longest
undefended one in the world.
>
>
>
>
el duderino
> a few ppl go blind every once in awhile from drinking it (moonshine) on a
> BC Ferry.
Greg, can you show proof of even one person going blind from drinking
moonshine on a BC Ferry?
You pathetic liar.
Robert LaCasse
wrote:
|>>
|>> I agree with one thing you say and that is the HA should be made a
|>> terrorist organization
|>
|>Legalize the drugs and the Angels are just a bunch of losers with loud bikes
|>and poor hygiene. You'll never put an end to the gangs until you put an end
|>to the Prohibition that gives them an economic model.
|>
You may say these "Prohibitions" are caused by HA's since they and
other gangs do not adhere to it's sanctions...eg: say the
FAC/PAL/ATC/ccw/ccp/chl and reciprocity scenes...
I wonder if this (economic model) was invented by the HAMC in some
remote affiliation........
Seriously who can go for this CFC kind of bullshit extortion, since
it's is just a thorn to the storefront operations like
ItalianSportingGoods, LeverArms, or Reliable gun/tackle and are their prices
competitive??....
HA is mostly money laundering these days, they just buy Harley
Ablesons, as a tradition to keep their status....just like a bunch of
Lawyers, Doctors, ...well you name it...
They are into all larceny just like the other armed gangs...the more
guns the more you own...They have puppet clubs and are puppets themselves of
the NWO...do you think these guys don't pay taxes to support political
financial endeavors, whereas the other gun gangs don't pay a cent.....
Although it is surprising to see how many times Ralph S. Barger jr.
rides his *status* Harley FXR per year....or How many shares he has in the
Harley Factory...which is quite untouchable even for video reproductions...