Gay Moutain Bike Group Victoria BC Canada Looking For Members
Brock Bailey
members intrested in starting a group...The group will be open to people
aged 17 years old and up...Because of legal restrictions and the laws no one
under the age of 17 years old can participate...
We would do weekly moutain bike rides and or moutain bike campouts etc which
ever intrested the members and would like to have input...If intrested
Contact Brock Bailey
bba...@sprint.ca
Victoria BC Canada
The Home of the world longest moutain bike trail "GALLOPING GOOSE"
darsh
Why is it that I am always told about gay people being gay, but I never hear
people proclaim their heterosexuality? Well, I have a bike club too. It is
the Heterosexual Bike Union. If you are gay, I guess you are SOL.
d a r s h
"Brock Bailey" <bba...@sprint.ca> wrote in message
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MarkB
> Why is it that I am always told about gay people being gay, but I never hear
> people proclaim their heterosexuality?
I'm a lesbian.....I love women!
> Well, I have a bike club too. It is
> the Heterosexual Bike Union. If you are gay, I guess you are SOL.
Do the UK boys know gay don't mean happy?....just wondering...... we don't want
to screw
up the translation here.
People don't know I clicked on this do they?....oh shit! Where is the UNsend
button!
Mark
SCHeckler
There was a similar thread in rec.backcountry last year. People couldn't see
why I had a problem with people looking for gay hiking partners. Why not just
Hiking partners? Yeah, yeah, you'd be more comfortable with people who are
like you in that respect, right?
well...I am just as insulted by gays looking for gay biking partners as I am
with guys looking for women cycling partners. It's in poor taste to look here!
Just find cycling partners, and maybe you'll get lucky...probably you won't.
WTF does being gay have to do with cycling?
--g
In <t7nL4.101$L7.1...@news-west.usenetserver.com>, darsh wrote:
>This is not a gay Newsgroup B squared.
>
>Why is it that I am always told about gay people being gay, but I never hear
>people proclaim their heterosexuality? Well, I have a bike club too. It is
>the Heterosexual Bike Union. If you are gay, I guess you are SOL.
>
>d a r s h
>
>"Brock Bailey" <bba...@sprint.ca> wrote in message
>news:OQlL4.13168$Bq2.2...@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
>| Looking to start a gay moutain biking group for victoria bc and looking
>for
>| members intrested in starting a group...The group will be open to people
>| aged 17 years old and up...Because of legal restrictions and the laws no
>one
>| under the age of 17 years old can participate...
>|
>| We would do weekly moutain bike rides and or moutain bike campouts etc
>which
>| ever intrested the members and would like to have input...If intrested
>|
>| Contact Brock Bailey
>| bba...@sprint.ca
>| Victoria BC Canada
>|
>|
>| The Home of the world longest moutain bike trail "GALLOPING GOOSE"
>|
>|
>|
>
>
>
>
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bike fanatic like most of my ex-test riders and riding buddies.
Now I oppose homosexuality as an aberration of nature with IMHO too much
exposure from the brain-difficient liberal minority, but that is my opinion
only - the guy has a perfect right to advertise for gar riding partners.
It's called free speech, and repulsive as though it may be to you and me, it
has to be observed - especially on the Internet.
In article <slrn8frsj7.9v...@freefall.homeip.net>,
plane...@gspath.net says...
Abe O.
Ask Pete, JD and SCHeckler.
They do a good job of licking my rim.
Abe
G.T.
"Abe O." <abe_N...@wickedmail.com> wrote in message
news:38fe3616.6978773@news...
> You found the right NG.
> Ask Pete, JD and SCHeckler.
> They do a good job of licking my rim.
It seems to me you've been the one doing the licking. Ass.
Greg
John Bean
keep them thar hands on the bar ends dude!
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Philip Pearce
easier to be yourself when you know u ain't gonna have a 2 by four around the back
of the head by some homophobic scum...
You have gay youth groups, does this count for them too?
Phil
SCHeckler wrote:
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guys can cope with you Yanks/Canadians, I think gay has meant gay over here for
years...
Your country Yokel from the deepest darkest England ;o)
Phil
Ps i'm gay and I LOVE guys!
MarkB wrote:
> Darsh,
>
> > Why is it that I am always told about gay people being gay, but I never hear
> > people proclaim their heterosexuality?
>
> I'm a lesbian.....I love women!
>
> > Well, I have a bike club too. It is
> > the Heterosexual Bike Union. If you are gay, I guess you are SOL.
>
> Do the UK boys know gay don't mean happy?....just wondering...... we don't want
> to screw
> up the translation here.
>
> People don't know I clicked on this do they?....oh shit! Where is the UNsend
> button!
>
> Mark
--
Paul Harris
>There are plenty of other cycling clubs centered around
>other common interests beyond cycling -- Christian cycling
>clubs, singles cycling clubs, black cycling clubs, youth
>cycling clubs, good microbrewed beer lovers' cycling clubs,
>etc. Why would you single out a gay cycling club as especially
>inappropriate?
>
>
>None of this is a new deabte, by the way -- he's posted
>about the same announcement off and on for years, so I
>assume there hasn't been much interest in the club so far.
Agreed. The poor guy just wants to go cycling with some gay friends.
Why don't you other jerks give it a break? Too much time on your
hands? Nobody's forcing you to go riding with him.
Paul Harris
Victoria
Trekkie Dad
plane...@gspath.net wrote:
> Hear Hear!
>
> There was a similar thread in rec.backcountry last year. People couldn't see
> why I had a problem with people looking for gay hiking partners. Why not just
> Hiking partners? Yeah, yeah, you'd be more comfortable with people who are
> like you in that respect, right?
>
> well...I am just as insulted by gays looking for gay biking partners as I am
> with guys looking for women cycling partners. It's in poor taste to
look here!
> Just find cycling partners, and maybe you'll get lucky...probably you won't.
> WTF does being gay have to do with cycling?
>
> --g
>
>
Assuming the original post wasn't a troll or an attempt to cause someone
serious trouble by "outing" him...
At first, I'd be inclined to side with Greg here. The sexual preference of
the people I ride with is irrelevant, just as is their race, religion or
general political leanings. I just can't afford to be that picky, and I
rather enjoy the company of people that are unlike me. There is so much
that can be learned from them.
Actually, there is a very good reason for getting more women out on their
bikes. They might be surprised by how much they enjoy it! And women are in
no less need of exercise than men.
I DO understand why there are women-only bike clubs and rides. They just
want to get out and ride without being hassled by men they perceive as "on
the make." It should have to be that way, but we live in an imperfect
world.
OTOH, if a bunch of gays want to get together to ride their bikes because
they feel ill at ease around straights, why should anyone be surprised?
Just because you weren't invited to the party, doesn't mean you would have
wanted to go in the first place.
TD
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Joshua_Putnam
In <slrn8frsj7.9v...@freefall.homeip.net>,
plane...@gspath.net writes:
>There was a similar thread in rec.backcountry last year. People couldn't see
>why I had a problem with people looking for gay hiking partners. Why not just
>Hiking partners? Yeah, yeah, you'd be more comfortable with people who are
>like you in that respect, right?
>
>well...I am just as insulted by gays looking for gay biking partners as I am
>with guys looking for women cycling partners. It's in poor taste to look
here!
>Just find cycling partners, and maybe you'll get lucky...probably you won't.
Having known a number of gay cyclists over the years, I
think you've just explained it for him, and explained why
so many places have gay cycling clubs -- if you wanted to
find someone to ride with, would you want to join a club
where you knew you'd be accepted, or one where you could be
fairly sure someone would denounce you as a pervert, be
uncomfortable riding with you, and not want to be seen with
you in public?
There are plenty of other cycling clubs centered around
other common interests beyond cycling -- Christian cycling
clubs, singles cycling clubs, black cycling clubs, youth
cycling clubs, good microbrewed beer lovers' cycling clubs,
etc. Why would you single out a gay cycling club as especially
inappropriate?
None of this is a new deabte, by the way -- he's posted
about the same announcement off and on for years, so I
assume there hasn't been much interest in the club so far.
--
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club.
BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE 17 OR OLDER TO JOIN. THAT IS
DISTURBING.
What Legal restrictions are there for a group of riders to get together
UNLESS YOU WANTED TO SCREW ALL OF THEM.
If you wanted a gay Cycling partner...go join a gay hotline or
something...don't peddle your Horny warez here.
G
Paul Harris wrote:
>
> On 20 Apr 2000 02:31:52 GMT, jo...@WOLFENET.COM (Joshua_Putnam) wrote:
>
> >There are plenty of other cycling clubs centered around
> >other common interests beyond cycling -- Christian cycling
> >clubs, singles cycling clubs, black cycling clubs, youth
> >cycling clubs, good microbrewed beer lovers' cycling clubs,
> >etc. Why would you single out a gay cycling club as especially
> >inappropriate?
> >
> >
> >None of this is a new deabte, by the way -- he's posted
> >about the same announcement off and on for years, so I
> >assume there hasn't been much interest in the club so far.
>
Gary
club.
BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE 17 OR OLDER TO JOIN. THAT IS
DISTURBING.
What Legal restrictions are there for a group of riders to get together
UNLESS YOU WANTED TO SCREW ALL OF THEM.
If you wanted a gay Cycling partner...go join a gay hotline or
something...don't peddle your Horny warez here.
G
Zapata
17 thing who says it's not a ligit registered club and because of legal
requirements you have to be 17 to ride.. There is stuff like that all the
time. Look at adult hockey leagues alot of them you have to be over 18
because of liability and insurance stuff.. Don't be so quick to jump on the
back of someone that is a little different than you.. All the guy asked was
if there was anyone that would be interested in joining.. He isn't "peddle
your Horny warez here" as you put it.. He asked a stragiht forward question.
What if it was a religious group?? Would you tell them to quit trying to
convert everyone or something like that?? Grow up and relax.. It ain't your
problem if you aren't part of it. Let him ask his question and let whoever
replies reply then you don't have to worry about it.. It's amazing how
people can get worked up over something this small... SYL
Zap
"Gary" <gsa...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:38FEA3E0...@telus.net...
gazzer
ass, so to speak, by saying that this was a legal requirement.
whether or not the law is an ass is another matter.
Gary wrote in message <38FEA3E0...@telus.net>...
Kathleen
> This is not a gay Newsgroup B squared.
>
> Why is it that I am always told about gay people being gay, but I never hear
> people proclaim their heterosexuality? Well, I have a bike club too. It is
> the Heterosexual Bike Union. If you are gay, I guess you are SOL.
>
> d a r s h
No it's not a gay news group. It's not a women's newsgroup, either, but here I
am. And I don't ever recall you telling me not to post Women's Cycling Network
info. I imagine it's pretty much the same thing. It's not so much that men
aren't allowed - spouses, sibs, S.O.s and friends turn up for the epic rides.
But like others have pointed out, as a minority (and as a female in
mountainbiking, I do consider myself a minority) it's nice to cycle with a group
that you automatically have something in common with, in a no-pressure
situation. It's a great way to bring other women into a sport that can be
intimidating; nobody's going to smirk if you need to get off and walk, you can
ask all the questions you want without triggering a condescending lecture, and
you can learn to repair your own bike, so you can tell the horn dogs looking to
use their tool kit to get laid to take flying leap.
I can't speak to why homosexuals feel the need to "proclaim" their sexuality.
In fact, I don't know that they proclaim it any more than the average hetero
male does in his every day life. IME straight men make more overtly sexual
comments than I've ever heard from gay guys (and not just directed at me, so
don't go there).
Kathleen
MarkB
> Ask Pete, JD and SCHeckler.
> They do a good job of licking my rim.
Here it goes again...........
Could it possibly get any funnier.
Mark
MarkB
> Agreed. The poor guy just wants to go cycling with some gay friends.
> Why don't you other jerks give it a break?
I thought everyone was being fairly nice. Most don't have a problem with
it. He knows he's gonna get "some" flak.
Try posting "Gay Racecar Driver Group in Charlotte,NC looking for
members" on the rec.nascar newsgroup.
that's where you'll see what the definition of jerk is.
Mountain Biking is for everyone. How do I know this?
2 words.............................................tandem bikes! :)
Mark
A happy Mountain Biker......not gay just happy.
Mike Vandeman
glad to give you a hint....
On 20 Apr 2000 02:31:52 GMT, jo...@WOLFENET.COM (Joshua_Putnam) wrote:
.
.In <slrn8frsj7.9v...@freefall.homeip.net>,
.plane...@gspath.net writes:
.
.>There was a similar thread in rec.backcountry last year. People couldn't see
.>why I had a problem with people looking for gay hiking partners. Why not just
.>Hiking partners? Yeah, yeah, you'd be more comfortable with people who are
.>like you in that respect, right?
.>
.>well...I am just as insulted by gays looking for gay biking partners as I am
.>with guys looking for women cycling partners. It's in poor taste to look
.here!
.>Just find cycling partners, and maybe you'll get lucky...probably you won't.
.
.Having known a number of gay cyclists over the years, I
.think you've just explained it for him, and explained why
.so many places have gay cycling clubs -- if you wanted to
.find someone to ride with, would you want to join a club
.where you knew you'd be accepted, or one where you could be
.fairly sure someone would denounce you as a pervert, be
.uncomfortable riding with you, and not want to be seen with
.you in public?
.
.There are plenty of other cycling clubs centered around
.other common interests beyond cycling -- Christian cycling
.clubs, singles cycling clubs, black cycling clubs, youth
.cycling clubs, good microbrewed beer lovers' cycling clubs,
.etc. Why would you single out a gay cycling club as especially
.inappropriate?
.
.
.None of this is a new deabte, by the way -- he's posted
.about the same announcement off and on for years, so I
.assume there hasn't been much interest in the club so far.
.
.--
. Jo...@WolfeNet.com is Joshua Putnam / P.O. Box 13220 / Burton, WA 98013
. Interested in brazing, welding, or other bike frame building?
. See the new Frame Building Mailing List at:
. http://www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/framebuilders
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Joshua_Putnam
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with him posting to form a gay cycling
>club.
>BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE 17 OR OLDER TO JOIN. THAT IS
>DISTURBING.
>What Legal restrictions are there for a group of riders to get together
>UNLESS YOU WANTED TO SCREW ALL OF THEM.
I have no idea how enlightened the police and proecutors
are in his area, but I can certainly see why he'd have that
restriction.
Look how many flaming assholes here seem to have assumed
he's looking for sex partners instead of riding partners.
If his local law enforcement had any similar bigots, or if
the parents of an underaged rider went hysterical, he could
easily end up facing entirely bogus charges of pedophilia,
molestation, corrupting the morals of youth, etc. There's
certainly plenty of precedent for such malicious
prosecution of innocent people in the U.S.
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Interested in brazing, welding, or other bike frame building?
See the new Frame Building Mailing List at:
Dave Hinrichs
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Gary <gsa...@telus.net> wrote in message news:38FEA3C8...@telus.net...
>
CycleJay
I am straight as well, & not homophobic. I respect peoples decisions when it
comes to how they choose to live.
But hey, at least the guy rides Mt. Bikes, & is trying to organize a club
for people of a common interest, which is
Mt.Biking.
And all of us Mt. Bikers should stick together, but hey, thats just my
opinion..
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Have a good one.. Aloha
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"darsh" <da...@sopris.net> wrote in message
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> This is not a gay Newsgroup B squared.
>
> Why is it that I am always told about gay people being gay, but I never
hear
> people proclaim their heterosexuality? Well, I have a bike club too. It
is
> the Heterosexual Bike Union. If you are gay, I guess you are SOL.
>
> d a r s h
>
> "Brock Bailey" <bba...@sprint.ca> wrote in message
> news:OQlL4.13168$Bq2.2...@newscontent-01.sprint.ca...
Chris Phillipo
Philip Pearce wrote:
> Hmmmmmm hang on a sec, why shouldn't gay people want to meet gay people, it can be
> easier to be yourself when you know u ain't gonna have a 2 by four around the back
> of the head by some homophobic scum...
>
> You have gay youth groups, does this count for them too?
>
If you are homophobic scum with a 2x4 to wield, this sort of group would be a good
place to find easy targets if you ask me.
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CycleJay
Thank you..
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"Zapata" <zza...@home.com> wrote in message
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Garry Elder
shown. I thought that this news group was around so that Mtn bikers of ALL
sorts could post questions, talk about rides, get clubs going, try to get
the skinny on the new super duper ultralight suspension filled to the max
bike. I didn't think it was about flaming someone who asked a simple
question. (with the exception of Mike V)
I know that as a newbie, and a female rider, I feel more comfortable being
with people who have a similar background to me. i.e. not very good and
ummm female!! He probably feels the same, he asked if any of you wanted to
join a particular group of people, with a set of common interests, he didn't
ask if you wanted to become gay or anything else. As this is a large forum,
with a wide diversity of people, probabilities are that a few have replied
to him, and seeing the response his posting got, did it off line.
ohhh and the 17 yrs old thing, well umm Canadian politicians, nuff said.
Shessh.... give the guy a break, and stop being umm what was it again..oh
yeah.....small minded.
Elly
Pete Fagerlin
news:8dnt33$45b$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> Looking through all the postings, I am amazed at some of the
attitudes
> shown. I thought that this news group was around so that Mtn
bikers of ALL
> sorts could post questions, talk about rides, get clubs going,
try to get
> the skinny on the new super duper ultralight suspension filled
to the max
> bike. I didn't think it was about flaming someone who asked a
simple
> question. (with the exception of Mike V)
> Shessh.... give the guy a break, and stop being umm what was
it again..oh
> yeah.....small minded.
>
> Elly
Elly, or Garry or whatever your name is, please consider the
following:
At first blush, the initial post looks like a classic "frame job"
that was being done by someone who has an axe to grind with Brock
Bailey.
A quick deja search seems to indicate that this guy is the real
thing, rather than a frame.
The issue here is not so much the orientation of this Brock
fellow but the fact that his post is a thinly veiled troll for
sex partners. I could care less if he parks his john thomas in a
woman, a man, a goat or his hand for that matter.
If a straight guy were to post something about looking for nubile
young girls to ride with, it would be met with equal scorn, IMO.
Still doubtfull about his true character?
"Canadain Gay Victoria BC / Vancouver Island
Date: 02/12/2000
Author: Brock Bailey <bba...@sprint.ca>
<< previous in search · next in search >>
Victoria BC Canada / Vancouver Island
Hi I'am a older gay male open honest and truthful looking for
gay teens 16 and up to meet and be friends with and if you want
to have sex thats fine with me...I'am a socal drinker and have
homemade beer at home and I'am 6 '3 tall with brown hair and blue
eyes and cut 6 inch plus cock..41 years old and young
looking...like kissing and sex etc..clean and hiv - My intrests
are computers,rock music and like moutain bike riding
etc..looking for a long / short boyfriend and gay roomate..or
whatever...
Hay, if you want casual sex thats fine with me.....Send me a
scanned picture..
Brock Bailey
bba...@sprint.ca"
"Subject: GWM Seeks GBM / Bi Visit me...or Military Navy...
Date: 02/13/2000
Author: Brock Bailey <bba...@sprint.ca>
<< previous in search · next in search >>
Gay White Canadian male seeks gay black or bi black male for
frindship..caual sex and maybe more...or if you are in the usa
military or canadian military or not it doesn't matter...Looking
for someone 16 and up...(runaways welcome) I'am 6'3 tall with
short brown hair and blue eyes and between 210-235 lbs open
honest clean and hiv- and have my own apartment..My intrests are
computers,moutain bike riding like to swimming,suntanning working
out hiking and doing other things social drinker.looking for
short term / long term relationship / roomate/causal sex as
well....lets talk more and send an scanned picture etc..tell me
about yourself...
Brock Bailey
Victoria BC Canada
bba...@sprint.ca"
Give me a break Elly or Garry, or whoever you are.
--
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Yuck
"Zapata" <zza...@home.com> wrote in message
news:RNxL4.73124$W5.6...@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com...
> You know there isn't a problem with starting a gay ride. And the being
over
> 17 thing who says it's not a ligit registered club and because of legal
> requirements you have to be 17 to ride.. There is stuff like that all the
> time. Look at adult hockey leagues alot of them you have to be over 18
> because of liability and insurance stuff.. Don't be so quick to jump on
the
> back of someone that is a little different than you.. All the guy asked
was
> if there was anyone that would be interested in joining.. He isn't "peddle
> your Horny warez here" as you put it.. He asked a stragiht forward
question.
> What if it was a religious group?? Would you tell them to quit trying to
> convert everyone or something like that?? Grow up and relax.. It ain't
your
> problem if you aren't part of it. Let him ask his question and let whoever
> replies reply then you don't have to worry about it.. It's amazing how
> people can get worked up over something this small... SYL
> Zap
>
> "Gary" <gsa...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:38FEA3E0...@telus.net...
> > There is absolutely nothing wrong with you posting to form a gay cycling
> > club.
> > BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE 17 OR OLDER TO JOIN. THAT IS
> > DISTURBING.
> > What Legal restrictions are there for a group of riders to get together
> > UNLESS YOU WANTED TO SCREW ALL OF THEM.
> >
> > If you wanted a gay Cycling partner...go join a gay hotline or
> > something...don't peddle your Horny warez here.
> >
> > G
> >
> > Brock Bailey wrote:
> > >
> > > Looking to start a gay moutain biking group for victoria bc and
looking
> for
> > > members intrested in starting a group...The group will be open to
people
> > > aged 17 years old and up...Because of legal restrictions and the laws
no
> one
> > > under the age of 17 years old can participate...
> > >
> > > We would do weekly moutain bike rides and or moutain bike campouts etc
> which
> > > ever intrested the members and would like to have input...If intrested
> > >
> > > Contact Brock Bailey
> > > bba...@sprint.ca
> > > Victoria BC Canada
> > >
> > > The Home of the world longest moutain bike trail "GALLOPING GOOSE"
> >
> > --
>
>
Zapata
anything better??? Grow up...
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K. Vern Faulkner
: Fudge Packers
: Yuck
A, the hommophobes abound. Too bad we can't stick some kind of label on
them that identifies them publically as a complete idiot.
Mr. Stone, allow me to be blunt. Educated, intelligent people ttend to
view neanderthal bozos such as yourself with all the repulsion as you view
anyone who doesn't adhere to the norm.
Save for one small difference.
We're right.
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Jan Sacharuk
>Ken Stone (ksto...@home.com) wrote:
>: Fudge Packers
>: Yuck
>
>A, the hommophobes abound. Too bad we can't stick some kind of label on
>them that identifies them publically as a complete idiot.
>
>Mr. Stone, allow me to be blunt. Educated, intelligent people ttend to
>view neanderthal bozos such as yourself with all the repulsion as you view
>anyone who doesn't adhere to the norm.
>
>Save for one small difference.
>
>We're right.
Cheers to that.
Too bad a lot of Educated, intelligent people are also neanderthal
bozos. You meet a lot of those in university.
Jan
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rodan lewarx
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> A gay guy who's looking for new "members" and would like some "input",
> go figure.
Gee, I had no idea this would start a flame war -_-
Remove the other newsgroups so you don't populate your trash. Yes I
understand the irony of me leaving all three newsgroups but I just want
people to remove the other two newsgroups before replying.
Brock Bailey
The legal requirements are put in place for two requirements one we were
asked because the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said we had to fallow
the legal requirement of legal age which is 16 but we increased the age to
17 years old as if sex does happen on our rides or planned camp out / rides
there is no legal problems with age of consent and possible problems..and
the other requirement is for saftey reasons and people 17 and up are more
mature and be able to handel these situations...
We have taken this responce and want to be a legal gay moutain biking group
and welcome new members...intrested contact Brock Bailey and new web site
will be going up soon to get new members...
Brock R Bailey
Tel 250-389-1768
Victoria BC Canada Vancouuver island
bba...@sprint.ca
Sorry my computer was in the shop for 8 days and my e-mail got bounced
back..but you can send me a message now..
Thanks for your understanding..
fish!
bba...@sprint.ca says...
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The legal requirements are put in place for two requirements one we were
> asked because the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said we had to fallow
> the legal requirement of legal age which is 16 but we increased the age to
> 17 years old as if sex does happen on our rides or planned camp out / rides
> there is no legal problems with age of consent and possible problems..and
> the other requirement is for saftey reasons and people 17 and up are more
> mature and be able to handel these situations...
>
> We have taken this responce and want to be a legal gay moutain biking group
> and welcome new members...intrested contact Brock Bailey and new web site
> will be going up soon to get new members...
>
> Brock R Bailey
> Tel 250-389-1768
> Victoria BC Canada Vancouuver island
> bba...@sprint.ca
Umm, why do you need a gay mountain bike group? Does you sexual
preference HAVE to invade every aspect of your lives?
--
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Richard
Because I don't need be.
Lyz Filteau
obviously het. Does that invade every aspect of your life? In organizing this
group all that is being done is for comfort. Think about it. You are het. Are you
super comfortable when everyone around you is gay? Probably not so how can you
expect someone who is gay to be totally comfortable around staights. It's just a
matter of being able to be yourself without anyone putting you down. We don't hold
it against you that you are straight so why should you hold it against us that we
are gay. It should not be an issue.
People are people - their sexual preference should not matter.
bubba
Do they always travel in groups?
Bubba (Cyclophobe)
Richard
Club" is not necessary? I'm gay and I don't think it's necessary. If you're
on the mountain to bike, does it matter if you or gay or not? Furthermore,
if someone organized a "Heterosexual Mountain Bike Club", the die-hards of
the ultra-left gay groups would cry foul because it excludes gays. WHO
CARES? IT'S BIKING. GET OVER IT!
You also elude to the fact that gays are more comfortable around other gays.
Um, not necessarily. Depends on the person and the emotional baggage they
are carrying. The same holds true for hets.
But I would like to note that you were able to finally get something
right... at the end of your post. "People are people - their sexual
preference should not matter". If you believe that, then why the need for a
"Gay Mountain Bike Club?"
R
"Lyz Filteau" <l...@eagle.ca> wrote in message
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Mark Hickey
>Why do you assume that one has to be het to believe a "Gay Mountain Bike
>Club" is not necessary? I'm gay and I don't think it's necessary. If you're
>on the mountain to bike, does it matter if you or gay or not? Furthermore,
>if someone organized a "Heterosexual Mountain Bike Club", the die-hards of
>the ultra-left gay groups would cry foul because it excludes gays. WHO
>CARES? IT'S BIKING. GET OVER IT!
Excellent post! Personally, I'd think it strange for a hetero rider
to be talking about his sex life on a ride. Same for anyone else.
When you're on the trail, your sexual preferences, voting habits, or
religion just don't matter. Just ride the bike and enjoy.
Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
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Home of the $695 ti frame
Chris London
maybe gay people just feel more comfortable with other gay people....just
like a bubba might feel more comfortable with another bubba.....at least
they are "out" enjoying the outdoors and all......
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MURRAY VOSS
The one point that is important is ----- that you may or may not join -
it is up to the individual person---that the choice/option be there. But
it is very important to us as gay and lesbians to have that choice and
be in a social enviroment where we are comfortable. It is not a matter
of gay or straight---it is a matter of coice and comfort. The choice is
ours (yours?) But we do require as gay men and women to be able to
socialize in an enviroment where we can be who we are.
Sincerely, Les
Richard wrote:
>
> Why do you assume that one has to be het to believe a "Gay Mountain Bike
> Club" is not necessary? I'm gay and I don't think it's necessary. If you're
> on the mountain to bike, does it matter if you or gay or not? Furthermore,
> if someone organized a "Heterosexual Mountain Bike Club", the die-hards of
> the ultra-left gay groups would cry foul because it excludes gays. WHO
> CARES? IT'S BIKING. GET OVER IT!
>
dag
hard-bodied men and buxom women all clad in clingy Lycra...riding the
singletrack far away from civilization....they stop deep in the forest,
exhausted and sweaty...suddenly a funky bass line starts up from behind a
tree and they all get down and do the nasty....I think I saw the video cover
for that one at Blockbuster.
Building a bike group based on sexuality is fine, but you really should
promote the riding aspect of it, not the soliciation of sex. I don't care
who rides with me, as long as they keep up.
- dag
G.T. <eth...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Lyz Filteau" <l...@eagle.ca> wrote in message
> news:39252055...@eagle.ca...
> > It doesn't have to invade every aspect of your life but it is who you
are.
> You are
> > obviously het. Does that invade every aspect of your life?
>
> No.
>
> In organizing this
> > group all that is being done is for comfort.
>
> From one of Brock's postings it sounds like he is looking for sex. That's
> why there is a minimum age limit for his gatherings. I don't organize
"het"
> rides so I can have sex, I organize them to ride, whether with straights
or
> gays.
>
> Think about it. You are het. Are you
> > super comfortable when everyone around you is gay?
>
> Yes, almost everyone of my wife's friends is gay.
>
> Probably not so how can you
> > expect someone who is gay to be totally comfortable around staights.
It's
> just a
> > matter of being able to be yourself without anyone putting you down. We
> don't hold
> > it against you that you are straight so why should you hold it against
us
> that we
> > are gay. It should not be an issue.
> > People are people - their sexual preference should not matter.
> >
>
> That is right, that's why both straights and gays are welcome to ride with
> me.
>
> >
> > > Umm, why do you need a gay mountain bike group? Does you sexual
> > > preference HAVE to invade every aspect of your lives?
> > >
>
> It sounds to me like Brock is using mtn bikes to increase his chance of
sex.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
Juan el Blanco
on 5/19/00 9:34 PM:
> It is important to have groups and organizations that are gay oriented.
> The one point that is important is ----- that you may or may not join -
> it is up to the individual person---that the choice/option be there. But
> it is very important to us as gay and lesbians to have that choice and
> be in a social enviroment where we are comfortable. It is not a matter
> of gay or straight---it is a matter of coice and comfort. The choice is
> ours (yours?) But we do require as gay men and women to be able to
> socialize in an enviroment where we can be who we are.
> Sincerely, Les
Well wouldn't you be comfortable in a group that allowed breeders who are
friendly to the gay cause to join? You don't have to be an exclusively gay
group just to be comfortable in an organization- unless you want to cruise
the membership for sex and are afraid you'll embarrass yourself because your
gaydar sucks. There are plenty of breeder types out there who are very
accepting of gay people and some who actually spend time with gays (oh the
shock). Instead of having an exclusively gay group, why not have a
queer-friendly group? Like a GSA mountain biking group or something?
Unless the whole point of this really is to get some, in which case good
idea- mountain bikers tend to be pretty well-built guys. Just remember that
in the eyes of Jesse Helms, these sorts of things just prove that gays are
out for sex. And much as we hate it people do listen to Jesse Helms.
JeB
Mark Hickey
>Building a bike group based on sexuality is fine, but you really should
>promote the riding aspect of it, not the soliciation of sex. I don't care
>who rides with me, as long as they keep up.
No.... don't.... reply.... to.... that..... last.... line..... <gasp>.
Brock Bailey
that gay moutain biking group
in victoria is wanted as well as service..If large cities like la seattle
etc and vancouver bc have groups so why cant' we? youre thinking that, I
want sex Humm....thats for a gay personals or the bath house or camping trip
maybe with gay friend..The age limit was put in place for legal reasons and
after a talk with the Royal Canadian Mouted Police (internet Security
officer ) and long disscussion..this was decided because people in the usa
could file and maybe have us charged because we broke there area age of
concent laws and having underage gay people in our Moutain biking
group...We feel that having and age limit of 17 is far but we will increase
the age limit to 18 years old and have the younger gays get written
premmission to jion our group.if 16 years old and up..
We will be putting up a web site in the next two months and starting an
egroups newsroup for our members and on your web site will promote local
moutain bike riding as well as the worlds longest moutain bike trail..The
Galloping Goose Trail...Which is an old railway line and we hope to have
pictures of the trail and mapsaswell discriptions of future plans which will
be updated monthly or bi monthly..for the trail and the next while as well
newsletter...We thik that talking with the other gay moutain biking groups
is the best way to go and for our research..
Brock R Bailey
117-980 Wordsley Street
Victoria BC V9A6Y4
Tel 250-389-1768
bba...@sprint.ca
ue...@victoria.tc.ca
Notice: Since he has made comments which aren't true and he doesn't know my
backgroung ,history or where I've worked..or anything about me...So here
goes.I've worked for the government of canada (national defence ) until they
got rid of my job and retired in july 1998.with full pay.and for the 14
years I was there, I also worked outside my reguar job doing consulting work
for locl police/ fire agencies as well USA Military Navel
Intellagence,(Pacific Rim Region) as well US Secret Service based in seattle
washington state...FBI and other USA government agencies. And was a union
shop steward and union newspaper editor...
I'am not commenting further....My intrests...moutain biking ,camping hiking
etc..consulting etc..
Thanks again..
Brock R Bailey
KAAABooom
rodan lewarx
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> Isnt this the no bike seat needed group ????...lol
Hahaha....I wanna make jokes and type out a laugh too....
Personally, I don't think gays should be in the biking scene because 'size
matters.' I sure as hell don't see any bikers packin in their lil spandex
shorts.
I don't even know why bikers are making lil prejudice remarks. Who shaves
their legs? Women, drag queens, and bike riders....
There, we have a lil flame going on too. Yay for me.
I also think the government doesn't want gay men to marry because what's the
point of marriage if you can't beat your wife?
K. Vern Faulkner
: From one of Brock's postings it sounds like he is looking for sex. That's
: why there is a minimum age limit for his gatherings. I don't organize "het"
: rides so I can have sex, I organize them to ride, whether with straights or
: gays.
There's a problem here, and it comes from external perception. Perceptions
like yours, that assume that a male - just because he is gay - does
everything for sex. Therefore, I can only assume that Mr. Bailey's open
declaration of age limit is done with the precis intent of defusing any
claims of pedophelia and the like.
Ya realize, of course, that in BC, two 16-year olds can go at it with any
number of lubricants and tools... unless they are of the same gennder, in
which case, it is against the law?
A fifteen-year old boy can be at either end of oral gratification with a
seventeen-year old, unless the two are of the same gender. Kinda screwy,
eh? Betcha never knew that, did you?
These days, it doesn't hurt to be up-front andn legal about everything.
K. Vern Faulkner
: It doesn't have to invade every aspect of your life but it is who you are. You are
: obviously het. Does that invade every aspect of your life? In organizing this
: group all that is being done is for comfort. Think about it. You are het. Are you
: super comfortable when everyone around you is gay? Probably not so how can you
: expect someone who is gay to be totally comfortable around staights. It's just a
The story I like to tell that really puts this into perspective comes from
Christmas of 1985. I was in the US at the time, wasn't into family dinners
and all the rest of that because I didn't have any family at hand, etc,
etc. So a gay friend of mine invites me to a dinner that his "social
group" were having.
Ends up with me, in a room of about 30 gay males, only two of which knew
myself (and my sexual preferences). So there I was, the only straight in a
room full of gays, and everyone around me assuming I was... well... like
everyone else.
Got into a heated discussion on politics, religion, annd the like. Party
winds down. One of the guys I've been talking with asks myself and my
friend for our numbers. Brian writes down his, I write down mine.
"Oh, I thought you two lived together," came the response.
I looked at Brian. Brian looked at me. "He doesn't realize," I stated.
"No, he doesn't," said Brian.
"Uh... you two _are_ together, aren't you?" came the response.
I looked at Brian. Brian looked at me. "He doesn't realize," I stated.
"No, he doesn't," said Brian.
"You aren't?" came the response.
"No," said I.
"Oh. You look like the perfect couple," came the response.
Brian grins. "You don't realize," I stated.
"Realize what?" came the response.
"I'm not gay." I stated.
Silence. Dead silence. Heads turn. More silence.
"You're not?" came the responnse, after a while, "but... but... I would
never have known..... you ARE?.... REALLY? Wow. I... " the response faded.
And I suddenly realized, in a strange turn of roles, what is has to be
like to go through that every day of one's life...
Sexuality is a fundamental part of some people's identity - and for those
persons with alternate lifestyles (such as gays, lesbians, those with
different religious beliefs) those lifestyles become a vital part of one's
social surroundings.
I, for one, wouldn't want to join a cycling club only to find out that it
was for those wishing to share in the Love of The Bible - as I am
effectively an atheist....
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