Re: Barebones Website

[Patrick Woolsey]

On 12/16/19 at 6:30 PM, lwrnc...@gmail.com (Lawrence Salberg) wrote:

>I'd love to know how Barebones themselves create/edit their website.

With BBEdit, naturally :-)

https://www.barebones.com/company/sitecredits.html


>I've also noticed a lot of dead links (mostly on the extras
>wiki, but still...) and wonder what their process if for
>keeping their site fresh.

Since the BBEdit Extras wiki is not an official resource, I
regret I can't help you there, but since on the other hand it
*is* a wiki, anyone who's willing to work on it is welcome to. :-)


>Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even
>simple ones? Is everything a CMS now (and I'm a CMS expert, but
>still... I hate them and they drag on performance for simple sites).

Judging from the support questions we get, there are still a
goodly number of folks doing so.


Regards

Patrick Woolsey
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Bare Bones Software, Inc. <https://www.barebones.com/>

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 8:30, Lawrence Salberg <lwrnc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore?

Probably, and other editors too.
Not only for HTML/CSS but also for JS/PHP I guess.

> Even simple ones?

Define "simple". Last time I created a site it was on WP and even if the structure was "simple", nothing in the site itself was simple. There is no way I could reproduce that site by just typing things in my editor of choice.

> Is everything a CMS now

No. Or maybe not "WP/Drupal" like CMS. There are static CMS too. And there are complex sites too that don't depend on CMS.

> (and I'm a CMS expert, but still... I hate them and they drag on performance for simple sites).

Then get back to the basics... :)


Jean-Christophe Helary
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[Charlie Garrison]

On 17 Dec 2019, at 10:30, Lawrence Salberg wrote:

Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore?

My daily work is building and maintaining (not simple) web sites. BBEdit is the most important tool I use; can't imagine getting my work done without it.

-cng

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[Bill Kochman]

Lawrence, in regards to your question, the last time that I used an all-in-one  website creation app was with Adobe PageMill, which was discontinued at version three about twenty years ago. The thing about it though, was that, as I learned later, PageMill inserted a lot of unnecessary, proprietary HTML code in the pages that it created. While I do run a self-installed WordPress blog, since leaving PageMill behind years ago, I have depended upon the following software suite to create all of my web pages for my main website:

BBEdit: all HTML docs are made in BBEdit, and there are thousands of them.

Balthisar Tidy for Work: all HTML checking and automatic correcting is done in this app.

Adobe Photoshop: all graphics are created in this app.

ImageOptim: all images are optimized n this app to meet Googe’s AMP requirements.

While I rarely do it anymore — being as many of my pages are made from previous pages/templates — occasionally I will also run my pages through Google’s online AMP validator. For Facebook, I also run my new pages through Facebook’s Sharing Debugger and the Open Graph Object Debugger.

BBEdit has been an indispensable part of my workflow for many years.

Kind regards,

Bill Kochman

Bill’s Bible Basics

wordwe...@gmail.com

https://www.billkochman.com

On Dec 17, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Lawrence Salberg <lwrnc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even simple ones? Is everything a CMS now (and I'm a CMS expert, but still... I hate them and they drag on performance for simple sites).

[Jan Erik Moström]

On 17 Dec 2019, at 0:30, Lawrence Salberg wrote:

> Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even simple
> ones?

It all depends on how the site works/looks like:

- My main site that rarely changes: BBEdit
- My main blog: BBEdit + Blot
- My micro blog: micro.blog
- A site that I'm currently trying to bring to life: Ulysses + WordPress
- A larger tutorial site that I'm working on: BBEdit + Hugo
- Course sites at work: BBEdit + sometimes the CMS we are supposed to use.

= jem

[Greg Raven]

I have a handful of WordPress sites, but most of my 100+ sites are created using BBEdit. For that matter, I also create and/or edit my WordPress themes with BBEdit. I'm even working on a site about using BBEdit to build websites.

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 3:38:26 PM UTC-8, Lawrence Salberg wrote:

I'd love to know how Barebones themselves create/edit their website. 

I noticed initially that the generator tag is not on their website. For some reason, mine always says "BBEdit 8.5", even though I'm on 12.6.7. 

I can not find out where/how that is being put into my HTML template. I'm going to try a reinstall as maybe I have old files in my library, but even a global search for it turned up empty-handed.

I've also noticed a lot of dead links (mostly on the extras wiki, but still...) and wonder what their process if for keeping their site fresh. There's great documentation on BBEdit, or so everyone says, but the site always kind of drives me a bit batty.

Does no one actually use BBEdit to build websites anymore? Even simple ones? Is everything a CMS now (and I'm a CMS expert, but still... I hate them and they drag on performance for simple sites). 

But if Barebones themselves aren't using BBEdit, I don't know... I kind of would like to know, I guess. Anyone know about this?

[Kerri Hicks]

I have a lot of WordPress sites. But they're not just plug and play. All my theme development and plugin development is done in BBEdit.

--Kerri

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