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Rich Siegel

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Oct 26, 2010, 12:23:13 PM10/26/10
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Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate
availability of BBEdit 9.6. This is a free upgrade for anyone
using 9.0 through 9.5.1, and includes a number of new features,
refinements to existing features, and fixes for reported
problems. The high points of this new version are:

* document creation and validation support for HTML5;

* improved contextual completion support for tags and
attribute names
in HTML documents;

* enhanced completion of CSS property names (including vendor-specific
properties);

* extensive internal rework to improve performance and memory utilization;

* Lots of other little additions and changes to improve your
life with BBEdit in subtle ways.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

<http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/arch_bbedit96.html>

If you're already using BBEdit 9 (or a demo), just choose "Check
for Update" from the BBEdit menu to get the update, or go to the
BBEdit updates page:

<http://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/updates.html>

*** Please note that the system requirements have changed.
BBEdit 9.6 requires Mac OS X 10.5 or later (10.5.8, 10.6.4 or
later recommended). If you are running an older version of the
OS, Check for Updates will not offer you the new version.

If you're using an older version of BBEdit, you can download the
9.6 demo from here to try it out:

<http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/demo.html>

Enjoy,

R.
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bobembry

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Oct 26, 2010, 2:04:55 PM10/26/10
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No longer supports TextSoap plugin—which is a step backwards for me.
This means extra work in converting plain text to formatted HTML.

Bob

Rick Yentzer

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Oct 26, 2010, 2:16:38 PM10/26/10
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Love the enhanced css completion and HTML5 support. Kudos.

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Rich Siegel

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Oct 26, 2010, 2:31:52 PM10/26/10
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On Tuesday, October 26, 2010, bobembry <bobe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>No longer supports TextSoap plugin—which is a step backwards for me.
>This means extra work in converting plain text to formatted HTML.

TextSoap still works (and we still recommend it) -- but you need
to invoke it off the Services menu, now. It hasn't gone
anywhere. :-)

Lorin Rivers

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Oct 26, 2010, 2:15:25 PM10/26/10
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Congrats on (another) awesome release!

Love the HTML formatting tweaks!

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bobembry

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Oct 26, 2010, 5:10:03 PM10/26/10
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In my 9.5 BBEdit set up, I had 60+ html & plain text related cleaners.
These were accessed with the convenient TextSoap palette. The 30+
TextSoap cleaners that I have configured for the Services menu are
different—primarily for working with RTF and accessed with a QuicKeys
toolbar.

The 9.5 setup was very convenient because I could apply a cleaner and
immediately see the results—syntax coloring and preview window.

Bob


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EelBait

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Oct 26, 2010, 7:11:05 PM10/26/10
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I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.
Cute.

Miraz Jordan

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Oct 26, 2010, 7:41:08 PM10/26/10
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:11, EelBait <joseph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.
> Cute.
>

Oh, my name's in there! I wonder what I did? Cool. :-)

Cheers,

Miraz


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Steve Piercy

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Oct 26, 2010, 8:26:01 PM10/26/10
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Installed. Relaunched. Crash on relaunch.

Reverted to previous version using Time Machine. Relaunch OK.

Sent crash report to BBEdit.

--steve

Rich Siegel

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Oct 26, 2010, 8:46:26 PM10/26/10
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On Tuesday, October 26, 2010, Steve Piercy
<steve.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Installed. Relaunched. Crash on relaunch.

You have a broken language module. Look in ~/Library/Application
Support/BBEdit/Language Modules. Update the PDFHighlight module
from Appligent, discard others.

Gabriel Roth

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Oct 26, 2010, 8:48:07 PM10/26/10
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> I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.
Oh, my name's in there! I wonder what I did? Cool. :-)

I made the credits! I am totally stoked about this. 

I presume it was a bug report, in my case ...

Ron Fleckner

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Oct 26, 2010, 9:18:26 PM10/26/10
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On 27/10/2010, at 10:11 AM, EelBait wrote:

> I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.
> Cute.
>

On 27/10/2010, at 10:41 AM, Miraz Jordan wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:11, EelBait <joseph...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.
>> Cute.
>>
>

> Oh, my name's in there! I wonder what I did? Cool. :-)
>

> Cheers,
>
> Miraz


Oh, my head has shrunk back down to normal size.

Ron

Morbus Iff

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Oct 26, 2010, 10:57:16 PM10/26/10
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> I made the credits! I am totally stoked about this.
> I presume it was a bug report, in my case …

I suspect as much.

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Steve Piercy

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Oct 26, 2010, 11:33:48 PM10/26/10
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On Oct 26, 5:46 pm, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 26, 2010, Steve Piercy
>
> <steve.piercy....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Installed. Relaunched. Crash on relaunch.
>
> You have a broken language module. Look in ~/Library/Application
> Support/BBEdit/Language Modules. Update the PDFHighlight module
> from Appligent, discard others.

Hmm. Contents of that directory:

Language Modules:
Apache Configuration.plist
Lasso.bblm
SQL

No PDFHighlight. I suspected Lasso.bblm, removed it, and restarted.
Launch successful.

The Lasso.bblm that comes with BBEdit has some errors and does not
include some keywords that I use for a framework (Knop), so I had
fixed them in my info.plist in earlier versions. I carried those fixes
forward, and it works again. Thanks for the nudge in the right
direction!

--steve

Robert A. Rosenberg

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Oct 26, 2010, 11:30:07 PM10/26/10
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At 20:48 -0400 on 10/26/2010, Gabriel Roth wrote about Re: BBEdit 9.6:

> I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.
Oh, my name's in there! I wonder what I did? Cool.

I made the credits! I am totally stoked about this.

I presume it was a bug report, in my case ...

Not to burst your bubble but this is something I have seen in other programs. The user's name is dynamically added to the About Menu - I forget where it finds the name to use (mine shows up as all caps of my First and Last name without my middle initial and it does not match the license for the program which has the initial and is Title Case).
!3a-) Happy.gif

Bill Rowe

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Oct 27, 2010, 9:33:44 PM10/27/10
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On 10/26/10 at 11:30 PM, rar...@banet.net (Robert A. Rosenberg)
wrote:

>At 20:48 -0400 on 10/26/2010, Gabriel Roth wrote about Re: BBEdit
>9.6:

>>>I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted co-conspirators.

>>Oh, my name's in there! I wonder what I did? Cool.

>Not to burst your bubble but this is something I have seen in other


>programs. The user's name is dynamically added to the About Menu - I
>forget where it finds the name to use (mine shows up as all caps of
>my First and Last name without my middle initial and it does not
>match the license for the program which has the initial and is Title
>Case).

This appears to be what is going on with the unindicted
co-conspirators list. That is I see my name as the last entry,
but do not see names of other posters who indicated they were
also unindicted co-conspirators. Now, I wonder if there is any
significance to the 4 names I see ahead of my in this entry.

Steve deRosier

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Oct 27, 2010, 10:46:26 PM10/27/10
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Yes, it's pulling your user name to populate it. To test it, I have a
guest account on my laptop called "Guest User", I logged in as "Guest
User" and started BBEdit. The name "Guest User" showed up as the last
entry.

To BB: Nice touch! :)

- Steve

Fritz Anderson

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Oct 27, 2010, 10:50:23 PM10/27/10
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On 27 Oct 2010, at 9:46 PM, Steve deRosier wrote:

> Yes, it's pulling your user name to populate it. To test it, I have a
> guest account on my laptop called "Guest User", I logged in as "Guest
> User" and started BBEdit. The name "Guest User" showed up as the last
> entry.

Yeah, I was in the middle of writing an excited email to my closest friends when it occurred to me that I should try it from another account. I don't know what made me check, but I'm glad I did before I made an ass of myself.

— F


Webmaster

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Oct 27, 2010, 9:47:30 PM10/27/10
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At 20:48 -0400 on 10/26/2010, Gabriel Roth wrote about Re:
BBEdit 9.6:

> I just noticed the dynamic credit for unindicted
> co-conspirators.

> Oh, my name's in there! I wonder what I did? Cool.

I suspect that this is just a silly Barebones gimmick to make
us all feel like a part of the Barebones "family".

In other words, I suspect that every single BBEdit user will
find his or her name in the "unindicted co-conspirators"
entry, preceded by three other users' names.

In fact, I suspect that the program is merely getting this
information from the active account information. In other
words, whatever account you happen to be logged in with, is
the name that will show in the unindicted co-conspirators"
entry. Give it a try, and see if I am correct.

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Lee Anne

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Oct 27, 2010, 7:22:28 PM10/27/10
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I just installed the update on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8 and it
appears to have broken at least a portion of the search and replace
function. After re-installing the entire package, rebooting, and going
through the usual rigamarole, trying to search and replace (escaped) \r
\r\r with \r\r causes an immediate BBEdit crash when trying to enter
the replacement string. Sometimes, it breaks when trying to enter a
search string with an escaped character.

I'm not a happy camper, as this means that I can do approximately zero
useful work with the "improved" version.

Lee-Anne Phillips

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Lee Anne

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Oct 27, 2010, 7:30:36 PM10/27/10
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On Oct 26, 7:57 pm, Morbus Iff <mor...@disobey.com> wrote:
> > I made the credits! I am totally stoked about this.
> > I presume it was a bug report, in my case …

I'd guess so, as my name is on the list as well, and I'm a diligent
reporter of what few bugs I notice. This is a credit to BB's overall
quality, as in a past life I was a software quality control director
and notice these things.

Lee-Anne Phillips

Steve Piercy

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Oct 28, 2010, 12:10:31 AM10/28/10
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On Oct 27, 4:22 pm, Lee Anne <leeannephill...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just installed the update on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8 and it
> appears to have broken at least a portion of the search and replace
> function. After re-installing the entire package, rebooting, and going
> through the usual rigamarole, trying to search and replace (escaped) \r
> \r\r with \r\r causes an immediate BBEdit crash when trying to enter
> the replacement string. Sometimes, it breaks when trying to enter a
> search string with an escaped character.

Coincidentally, I just tried to do a Find/Replace. In the Replace
field I entered:
\
No crash yet. Then:
r
Ka-boom! I didn't try other escaped strings.

So you're not alone.

Fortunately it is trivial for me to use Time Machine to grab the
previous version of BBEdit from my system, so I can continue working
till this issue is resolved.

--steve

Steve Piercy

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Oct 28, 2010, 1:08:20 AM10/28/10
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On Oct 27, 9:10 pm, Steve Piercy <steve.piercy....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 27, 4:22 pm, Lee Anne <leeannephill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just installed the update on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.8 and it
> > appears to have broken at least a portion of the search and replace
> > function. After re-installing the entire package, rebooting, and going
> > through the usual rigamarole, trying to search and replace (escaped) \r
> > \r\r with \r\r causes an immediate BBEdit crash when trying to enter
> > the replacement string. Sometimes, it breaks when trying to enter a
> > search string with an escaped character.
>
> Coincidentally, I just tried to do a Find/Replace. In the Replace
> field I entered:
> \
> No crash yet. Then:
> r
> Ka-boom! I didn't try other escaped strings.

I found a way to both reliably replicate and avoid the issue.

To replicate the issue:
* open a file
* close the Find window if it is open
* CMD-F to re-open the Find window
* enter \r in Replace

To avoid the issue:
Keep the Find window open in the background, or if you have it open,
do a Find without an escape character, then enter "\r" in a subsequent
find.

--steve

Holger Bartel

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Oct 28, 2010, 1:23:38 AM10/28/10
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On 27.10.2010 at 13:08 Uhr <steve.pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:Steve Piercy

>I found a way to both reliably replicate and avoid the issue.

I cannot replicate this issue and BBEdit just behaves as expected.

Holger

Steve Piercy

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Oct 28, 2010, 4:45:53 AM10/28/10
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Spoke too soon. Now I can make BBEdit 9.6 crash whenever I enter a
space character in the Find field. Reverting to 9.5.1 so I can get
some work done.

--steve

Christopher Stone

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Oct 28, 2010, 2:02:26 AM10/28/10
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 00:08, Steve Piercy wrote:
> I found a way to both reliably replicate and avoid the issue.

______________________________________________________________________

Hey Steve,

I don't seem to have this problem. I've run your scenario with both the modal and non-modal dialog - no crash.

<shrug>

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G. T. Stresen-Reuter

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Oct 28, 2010, 8:11:31 AM10/28/10
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stone wrote:

> I don't seem to have this problem. I've run your scenario with both the modal and non-modal dialog - no crash.

1+

Ted S-R

Rich Siegel

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Oct 28, 2010, 9:23:57 AM10/28/10
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On Wednesday, October 27, 2010, Steve Piercy <steve.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:


> To replicate the issue:
> * open a file
> * close the Find window if it is open
> * CMD-F to re-open the Find window
> * enter \r in Replace

I have questions:

1. What steps do you do before the first "open a file"?

2. When you open the Find window, the keyboard focus is in the
Search field. So what steps are you using to start typing in the
Replace field?

Thank you,

Steve Piercy

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On Oct 28, 6:23 am, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 27, 2010, Steve Piercy <steve.piercy....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > To replicate the issue:
> > * open a file
> > * close the Find window if it is open
> > * CMD-F to re-open the Find window
> > * enter \r in Replace
>
> I have questions:
>
> 1.  What steps do you do before the first "open a file"?

Launch BBEdit 9.6 after a crash. This opens up all files that were
open at the time of the crash.

> 2.  When you open the Find window, the keyboard focus is in the
>     Search field. So what steps are you using to start typing in the
>     Replace field?

I use the tab key to navigate into the Replace field. I can type "\"
without a crash, but as soon as I type "r" after "\" it crashes.

Last night I found that it crashed when typing a space character in
the Find window. At that point, I just bailed and reverted to 9.5.1. I
can reinstall 9.6 to do further testing.

--steve

Patrick Woolsey

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Oct 28, 2010, 6:51:55 PM10/28/10
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Steve Piercy <steve.pi...@gmail.com> sez
[...]

>> 2. When you open the Find window, the keyboard focus is in the
>> Search field. So what steps are you using to start typing in the
>> Replace field?
>
> I use the tab key to navigate into the Replace field. I can type "\"
> without a crash, but as soon as I type "r" after "\" it crashes.


Since we still can't reproduce this problem locally, I'd appreciate if
anyone who can would please write to support so we can gather more details.

As always :-), that is: <sup...@barebones.com>


Regards,

Patrick Woolsey
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Steve Piercy

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Oct 28, 2010, 7:32:51 PM10/28/10
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On Oct 28, 3:51 pm, Patrick Woolsey <pwool...@barebones.com> wrote:
> Since we still can't reproduce this problem locally, I'd appreciate if
> anyone who can would please write to support so we can gather more details.
>
> As always :-), that is: <supp...@barebones.com>

Please let me know if you think of any other things I can try. Perhaps
send y'all my preferences file?

--steve

Process

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Dec 2, 2010, 10:18:19 AM12/2/10
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The removal of support for the TextSoap plugin is disappointing. What
used to be a seamless work environment for me has now turned into a
frustrating experience. I'm now reminded of the days when I worked in
an office and was forced to use a PC. Using a Mac shouldn't be this
way.


On Oct 26, 1:31 pm, Rich Siegel <sie...@barebones.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 26, 2010, bobembry <bobem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >No longer supportsTextSoapplugin—which is a step backwards for me.
> >This means extra work in converting plain text to formatted HTML.
>
> TextSoapstill works (and we still recommend it) -- but you need
> to invoke it off the Services menu, now. It hasn't gone
> anywhere. :-)

Steve Hodgson

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On Dec 2, 3:18 pm, Process <processinteract...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The removal of support for the TextSoap plugin is disappointing. What
> used to be a seamless work environment for me has now turned into a
> frustrating experience. I'm now reminded of the days when I worked in
> an office and was forced to use a PC. Using a Mac shouldn't be this
> way.

As far as I could tell the TextSoap developer didn't seen too bothered
by the change acknowledging that "The API was pretty old - slightly
tweaked from Mac OS 8 days.". Like you I missed it initially but
quickly got used to using the Services menu.
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Cheers,

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bobembry

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Dec 3, 2010, 9:06:55 AM12/3/10
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The other day I discovered the "Install Shortcut Menu items
using:" {popup list} in TextSoap Plugins Preferences. This feature
allows selecting a different set of cleaners from those used in the
Services Menu.

Hope the TextSoap developer comes up with a universal palette
solution. I think it can be done because CopyPaste Pro seems to be
able to do it.

Bob
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