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Loreal Lavigna
May 26, 2012, 1:01:11 PM5/26/12
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To get you started,
Stuart Lawler has done an intro podcast. I'm posting the link here while I
work on my demo and iron out the recording bugs I'm apparently having difficulty
with!
Loreal
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Stuart Lawler
May 26, 2012, 1:06:48 PM5/26/12
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Thanks Loreal for sharing my link.
I'd really be interested to know if others on this list are using Blackberry Screen Reader and if so, how is it working for you?
Also, I've heard people say that it is essentially Oratio re-packaged. Having not really used Oratio for any length I can't comment on this.
Regards,
Stuart.
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I'd really be interested to know if others on this list are using Blackberry Screen Reader and if so, how is it working for you?
Also, I've heard people say that it is essentially Oratio re-packaged. Having not really used Oratio for any length I can't comment on this.
Regards,
Stuart.
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Loreal Lavigna
May 26, 2012, 1:30:38 PM5/26/12
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Hello Stuart,
In response to the "Screenreader is Oratio repackaged" I'd say Screenreader
has improved on some things that Oratio simply did not improve upon,
regardless how much feedback they were given. Yes it does bare striking
resemblances to Oratio, but resembling the product and actually being the
former product are two very different animals here. For one thing, Oratio
did not work outside of beta on OS 5 (at least never officially). There may
have been some beta testing going on, however, improvements which were
desperately needed never came to fruition for Oratio in its run. Not to
mention only one device was supported, where as with the BlackBerry
screenreader, 3 devices are officially supported and across the major
carriers too no less. Keep in mind, BlackBerry 6 was completely
inaccessible even with Oratio whatsoever. Screenreader works with
BlackBerry 7, 7.1 and up. I've been working with my device for little more
than 24 hours now, and the similarities between Screenreader and Oratio
while they exist, do not a replication of the former product make.
I'll start by explaining similarities first then go into more detail further
down about where the differences are.
First off, yes the shortcut keys in conjunction with the right convenience
key (RCK) are exactly the same all around between both Oratio and
Screenreader. In this respect, it made it easy for those of us who have
used or played with Oratio in the past to familiarize ourselves with the
command structure and layout of the application itself. The layout of the
application's control panel is almost identical to Oratio as well, again,
making it easy for those of us who have used Oratio to familiarize ourselves
with it. The only difference with Screenreader is we do not have the
"activate" option when pressing the "menu" key from within the control panel
of the application as we did with Oratio.
You will notice that Screenreader uses the same Nuance technology found in
not only Oratio but also in Apple's iPhone/iPod/iPad devices and Android's
Mobile Accessibility among others I'm sure. One major difference with
Oratio and Screenreader however, no real bugs with regard to the US English
speech on my device, unlike with Oratio on my previous device (the
BlackBerry Bold 9650). Screenreader's speech is as stable if not more so on
the BlackBerry Curve 9350/9360/9370 as it was when Oratio first was
available on the BlackBerry Curve 8520 with BlackBerry OS Version 4.6 and
up. With Version 5 of the OS came the speech bugs and inconsistencies for
Oratio. However, you'll notice this is not the case with BlackBerry OS
version 7 and 7.1.
Support for the calendar, navigating contacts, BlackBerry Messenger, the
messaging application, Facebook and Twitter are all present in this release
of Screenreader by RIM. This was questionable at best with numerous crashes
in BlackBerry OS 5 with Oratio, even on the supported Curve 8520 as well as
certainly on the unsupported devices.
Changing settings is easily accomplished, as well as editing
sounds/vibrations for profiles and contacts in this first version of
BlackBerry's Screenreader. With Oratio, people will likely remember even on
the supported devices you lost speech when attempting to change sounds or
edit contacts' or profiles' sound settings.
I certainly look forward to working with Screenreader now and in the future.
This for me, unlike in Stuart Lawler's case, is my primary device presently.
I do have my iPhone connected to my WLAN for email purposes and other
things, as there are aspects about it I enjoy as well. I just cannot use my
iPhone as my primary device, not when I have to rely so heavily on typing on
my phone for texts, emails, and other various types of
messages/communications on a daily basis.
More to come shortly!
In response to the "Screenreader is Oratio repackaged" I'd say Screenreader
has improved on some things that Oratio simply did not improve upon,
regardless how much feedback they were given. Yes it does bare striking
resemblances to Oratio, but resembling the product and actually being the
former product are two very different animals here. For one thing, Oratio
did not work outside of beta on OS 5 (at least never officially). There may
have been some beta testing going on, however, improvements which were
desperately needed never came to fruition for Oratio in its run. Not to
mention only one device was supported, where as with the BlackBerry
screenreader, 3 devices are officially supported and across the major
carriers too no less. Keep in mind, BlackBerry 6 was completely
inaccessible even with Oratio whatsoever. Screenreader works with
BlackBerry 7, 7.1 and up. I've been working with my device for little more
than 24 hours now, and the similarities between Screenreader and Oratio
while they exist, do not a replication of the former product make.
I'll start by explaining similarities first then go into more detail further
down about where the differences are.
First off, yes the shortcut keys in conjunction with the right convenience
key (RCK) are exactly the same all around between both Oratio and
Screenreader. In this respect, it made it easy for those of us who have
used or played with Oratio in the past to familiarize ourselves with the
command structure and layout of the application itself. The layout of the
application's control panel is almost identical to Oratio as well, again,
making it easy for those of us who have used Oratio to familiarize ourselves
with it. The only difference with Screenreader is we do not have the
"activate" option when pressing the "menu" key from within the control panel
of the application as we did with Oratio.
You will notice that Screenreader uses the same Nuance technology found in
not only Oratio but also in Apple's iPhone/iPod/iPad devices and Android's
Mobile Accessibility among others I'm sure. One major difference with
Oratio and Screenreader however, no real bugs with regard to the US English
speech on my device, unlike with Oratio on my previous device (the
BlackBerry Bold 9650). Screenreader's speech is as stable if not more so on
the BlackBerry Curve 9350/9360/9370 as it was when Oratio first was
available on the BlackBerry Curve 8520 with BlackBerry OS Version 4.6 and
up. With Version 5 of the OS came the speech bugs and inconsistencies for
Oratio. However, you'll notice this is not the case with BlackBerry OS
version 7 and 7.1.
Support for the calendar, navigating contacts, BlackBerry Messenger, the
messaging application, Facebook and Twitter are all present in this release
of Screenreader by RIM. This was questionable at best with numerous crashes
in BlackBerry OS 5 with Oratio, even on the supported Curve 8520 as well as
certainly on the unsupported devices.
Changing settings is easily accomplished, as well as editing
sounds/vibrations for profiles and contacts in this first version of
BlackBerry's Screenreader. With Oratio, people will likely remember even on
the supported devices you lost speech when attempting to change sounds or
edit contacts' or profiles' sound settings.
I certainly look forward to working with Screenreader now and in the future.
This for me, unlike in Stuart Lawler's case, is my primary device presently.
I do have my iPhone connected to my WLAN for email purposes and other
things, as there are aspects about it I enjoy as well. I just cannot use my
iPhone as my primary device, not when I have to rely so heavily on typing on
my phone for texts, emails, and other various types of
messages/communications on a daily basis.
More to come shortly!
Loreal
Loreal Lavigna
Medical Transcriptionist/Medical Language Specialist
Phone: (518) 330-5188
Email: Loreal...@gmail.com
Loreal Lavigna
Medical Transcriptionist/Medical Language Specialist
Phone: (518) 330-5188
Email: Loreal...@gmail.com
Loreal
May 26, 2012, 1:33:06 PM5/26/12
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No problem, anytime!
Loreal
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
Loreal
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
Stuart Lawler
May 26, 2012, 2:06:57 PM5/26/12
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Hi Loreal,
Many thanks for the observations below.
I'm noticing far less choppy speech when I set my Blackberry's language to US English, and, subsequently as a result of that, the speech changes to US English also.
I am finding that the device is crashing frequently however, or, at least, I'm finding that I lose speech, I can't actually verify if it is crashing completely as I don't have any sighted assistance here at the moment.
One thing I did like with Oratio was the recover speech key combination, that did seem to be useful.
Many thanks for the observations below.
I'm noticing far less choppy speech when I set my Blackberry's language to US English, and, subsequently as a result of that, the speech changes to US English also.
I am finding that the device is crashing frequently however, or, at least, I'm finding that I lose speech, I can't actually verify if it is crashing completely as I don't have any sighted assistance here at the moment.
One thing I did like with Oratio was the recover speech key combination, that did seem to be useful.
Loreal Lavigna
May 26, 2012, 2:28:01 PM5/26/12
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Hey Stuart,
Just to let you know that recover speech option, while advertised as having
been available and working in Oratio, never did do so.
By the way, how did you change the column view of your home screen from 4
rows to1 as you said in your podcast?
Just to let you know that recover speech option, while advertised as having
been available and working in Oratio, never did do so.
By the way, how did you change the column view of your home screen from 4
rows to1 as you said in your podcast?
Stuart Lawler
May 26, 2012, 3:26:00 PM5/26/12
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Hi Loreal,
You'll find that setting under Accessibility Display, from the options menu on the home screen.
Stuart.
Sent from my iPhone
You'll find that setting under Accessibility Display, from the options menu on the home screen.
Stuart.
Sent from my iPhone
Mike Arrigo
May 26, 2012, 5:48:22 PM5/26/12
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It definitely has a better price, previously it was $450, with the free screen readers available for the iphone and android, there would have been no reason to purchase that.
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