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Tracee Hsiang
Hi everyone, long time lurker here first time poster.
I have done extensive research on L322 common problems, best models/engines to get etc. I think I've decided the best one to get would be a 2011/12 4.4L V8 Diesel. This will be my first Land Rover so before I start booking viewings with the intention on buying I thought it would be best to see what advice you guys would have. I have an alcohol wholesaling business and will be using the Rover to go on 1-2 hour journeys carrying smaller quantities of goods in the boot/backseats.
I know this has probably been done to death but a lot of the threads I'm seeing are for earlier BMW models or 2007-2009 ones. I've also seen and heard two different sides to Range Rover ownership and even though I expect high maintenance costs and the need to repair things early and properly a lot of what I see is contradictory. Some people say they stay on top of maintenance, do a lot of preventative measures and inspect parts every so often to stay on top of everything and haven't had a problem in years other than minor repairs here and there. But then I also see people saying their L322 cost upwards of 5k per year to maintain. I also hear that their Range Rovers spent more time being repaired than being on the road... but then i'm seeing so many on the used market with over 100k miles! So which is it?
Even though the L322 is really my dream car, I don't want a 2nd mortgage. I'd be happy to pay an average of 1k on maintenance & repairs a year, happy to pay more some years but would hope it would be less in others. Is this dreamland? Or actually grounded and realistic? I'm fairly handy with a spanner, I work on my Harley Davidson often and have a cracking independent mechanic local to me when needed.
Secondly, if all the costs and finances make sense is there anything in particular I need to look out for? I'm definitely going to muck around with the electrics and suspension to make sure it all works but this is a much more complicated car than i've ever driven before so for example I'm not sure how quickly/quietly it should perform commands. I hear that the 4.4 diesel is quite reliable if looked after. I'd probably only get a 6 month warranty and just see how it goes - is this a deathwish?
All comments are greatly appreciated!
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I purchased a 2010 (last of the 3.6TDV8) a few years ago and now has 165k miles on it had about 98k miles when i bought it, The car like both my earlier TD6's has been flawless... change the oil and filter regularly .. service the transmission.. replace suspension bushes as required. I did replace the alternator and it looks like i now have to do the rear shocks and air compressor but hey its ten eras old so if i replace them they will do another ten years... Beautiful
I get sick of hearing morons with no idea say these cars are plagued with problems or dear to maintain.. they really are no more expensive to maintain than any other car and the 3.6 and 4.4 (i think to a lesser degree) diesels are bloody bulletproof.. the gearboxes are also!
I have two friends right now having issues with nissans .. one a blown engine and the other has just spent 13k aud on new injectors (two sets) and fuel pumps etc... the difference is you wont hear people saying nissans are unreliable etc .. it will just come down to bad luck however had it have been a land rover you would never have heard the end of it from stupid people who are clueless and know nothing about these amazing cars
Try and buy one thats been looked after buy some one who knows how to care for a car and has not flogged it whilst it is stone cold etc... highway k's etc if you can
For what these cars were worth new and how little you pay now, given the r&d and no expense spared attitude that went into desigining them they are the bargian of the centrury imo
Dave 2010 3.6TDV8 Autobiography
Bas remap, Egr deleted (blanked & via remap) , Cold air intake, Turbo back exhaust, Provent 200 catch can, Banks idash gauge, 275/55/R20
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Past - 02 & 03 TD6 And an 1984 Classic
Thanks for the reply Dave, sounds like you have a solid one. I agree people love to hate and pretend to be professionals on cars they can't and won't own!
Is mileage that big of a factor? I'm thinking it might be a lot better to get one with over 100k miles that have recently replaced some of the more expensive parts with loads of service history than one with 70k miles and nothing replaced yet. If so, what would be the highest miles I should consider getting?
yes indeed they can be expensive to maintain but when you look at what you get for your money it's worth it . My car has given me issues with sensors mainly but it's equally rewarded me with the grin factor every time i drive it . Even my wife who hates spending money on car's wouldn't want to go anywhere any distance in any other car they are amazing off road too if you want .
The one thing i have noticed with some garage's is the lack of knowledge or just plain ignorance on doing the most basic tasks just because it's a Range Rover . It's still a car isn't it ? .
When you look underneath mine and gaze at the quality of how it's put together it gives me assurances that it's the car for me .
I if anything over maintain mine , don't chance anything and treat it with respect and it will last years , 80 mph at 1600 rpm it's doing 32 mpg or more , what car can do that and climb up hills you couldn't walk up .
It's easily the best car i have ever had and i enjoy owning it , they change your life for the better. 2011 tdv8 4.4 vogue Santorini black
4.4TDV8 = great choice.
I think you need a good Indy who knows these girls inside & out [no disrespect to your mechanic]
I'm approaching my first 12 months with my Westie & this years servicing & repairs totalled 1k. Partly because I'm totally anal about oils. I've spent more in one year on this girl than three years on my old X5, but hey, I knew that.
I had all the oils changed inc diffs-transfer box etc & had the gearbox megaflushed [best thing ever].
I had the usual oil cooler leak which the majority at some point suffer from.
The second turbo actuator was stripped, cleaned & now works perfectly.
If you're not in a hurry, there are a few cars that come available on here which is always a bonus.
There is a huge plethora of information on here from members, it's unreal what people know & has reassured me on several points. Just don't be afraid to ask, simple as that.
Good luck anyway. 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
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Thanks for all the comments guys. I'm definitely taking my time, in fact I think i'm going to wait a month or two until the recession really hits and hopefully that drives down the price of luxury cars...
I'm now wondering, for a 4.4L V8 diesel, would I need to use V power diesel? Or does regular diesel to the job?
I hear that the main problem with these engines are the oil cooler leaks, from what I read the turbo injectors are more of a problem on the 3.6 engines. Is there anything really I need to look out for? I'm going to be walking away from anything that isn't tip top condition but will also buy one without hesitation if it fits all the boxes regardless of mileage as long as its not over 150k
FFRR64Royal wrote:Have you seen this from a fellow forum member?
Unless there is a cracking deal for about 10k, i'd rather buy from a dealer just because I intend on using a potential part exchange and pinch of strong haggling to get a good deal.
5k for repairs? Even in the first year without knowing what to expect, that seems really excessive
I'd expect 2-3k in the worst scenario on things that could go wrong. But I'd be getting a 6 month, with a possible extension, warranty that would cover engine/transmission faults with it. I'd hope nothing major would go wrong for the first few thousand miles at least.
Hello,
I'd like to buy a range rover sport.
I would like to know what to check specifically before buying . to be sure how much i have to spend to get a good car?
Do a RRS have a timing chain; when to change it or the tensionner and the guide and how much is it?
How much to change the front bushes? because, through MOT, I read a lot of RRS with adivce about Front Inner Suspension arm pin or bush?
If you could give me some advice , I will appreciate.
Many thanks,
TDV8 has a chain, not a belt, just to add to the confusion.
Basically, what are you looking at? Early one (L320), facelift one (L320), second gen (L494)?
Do you want petrol or diesel? Budget? 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed
Hello,
Is it difficult to fix an air suspension default on a range rover 2.7 l V6.
What is the life tome of suspension compressor on this type of car?
I saw a video saying there is a crankshaft design default on this type of vehicule?
It is why a prefer a 3l V 6 engine.
Tell me what you think about these topics,please.
Thanks.
The 1st question is "depending on what is at fault". The suspension compressor replacement would be 3/10 in my book, 4/10 if you don't replace but rebuild the original unit. Valve blocks would be 4/10, airbags 5/10. All these assuming you have access to a lift, tools and have general mechanical capabilities.
Compressor lifetime - again, has it been properly maintained? Intake silencer replaced according to the maintenance schedule? Silica pack for the dryer replaced as per same schedule? I rebuilt my compressor on my 1st RRS when it was 8, my current compressor is 13 and shows no signs of fatigue ("...yet" to be put at the end of this sentence, obviously).
2.7 does not fit the 'Sport' moniker, as the car is way underpowered with this engine in my opinion. It is also, indeed, plagued by a crankshaft manufacturing and oil pump issues. They are carried over to the 3.0 TDV6, however in much smaller amounts. The usual maintenance in the 3.0 is replacing the oil pump with the possibly latest version of this pump, available much cheaper as a part from the brands that used the same engine but do not call themselves "Land Rover". Regards etc.,
Wojtek
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WAS: 2006 RRS Supercharged
IS: 2010 RRS TDV8 HSE