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My first reaction to the ending was that Rose was completely delusional and more specifically had schizophrenic tendencies or schizophreniform disorder. Initially, I was more attracted to the delusional element of this diagnosis rather than the split personality bit of schizophrenia simply because I felt that as well as being delusional, Rose was deliberately deluded by Odalie for much of the time. Delusional + deluded = crazy times.

Honestly, I feel that I have sold my soul writing this post but, as my reading buddy said, the joy of great stories like The Other Typist is the discussion that happens afterwards and an online discussion is as equally valid as a face-to-face one. So to all the readers pondering the ending of this marvelous book, what do you think happened?

My question is, and maybe someone can explain this to me, how can there be an idea that Rose/Odalie (and possibly Ginerva) are the same person (in split personalities). The Lieutenant Detective says at the end that he spoke with Odalie after Rose was arrested and gives her the broach back. Unless, is the LD a piece of her imagination as well?

4. Ginerva came from a wealthy family who was well known and summered in Newport. She had a much talked about debutante ball. No one from her past could come forward to identify her and exonerate Ros?

I actually listened to the audio of this book (great job, Gretchen Moll!) and was emailed this link to only read after I completed the book. Well, that is now and reading all these ideas as to what happened gives me thought. This will be a good read for my reading group and I look forward to that discussion. I could agree with most observations above, which only leaves me confused again. A movie? Hmmm.

My only confusion at the end of the book was regarding whether or not Rose pushed the fellow off the balcony or just imagined what he looked like as he fell. I think all this talk of multiple personalities is reaching way too far. Incidentally, schizophrenia does not equate to multiple personalities, and schizophrenaform disorder simply means that the schizophrenia symptoms have not endured for a long enough period of time to warrant the diagnosis.

I believe in the theory that Ginerva/Rose/Odalie are in fact the same person. The narrator often tells us the importance of telling things in order even though she jumps around in time herself when telling the story.

I think Ginerva is from Newport and murdered Teddys cousin, this could possibly be the start of her psychosis. After this she created the boot legging business with Gib and decided to lay low in the boarding house and assume a job as a typist to conceal her illegal business and not cause suspicion. She began to develop a back story for herself at the boarding house, that she was an orphan and that the nuns had educated her ( hence why there is no record of her being at the orphanage). Ginerva began to completely believ her own story and it is well known pathological liars are so good at doing so because they believe it themselves. Ginerva then became Rose. She became plain, quiet and observant and able to go through certain situations unnoticed.

When Rose cuts her hair this is the final transformation into Odalie or perhaps it is the tranformation into someone like Odalie and this woman Ginevra, Rose or whatever her real name is will continue to transform and change as the psychosis is deep within her.

I am curious to see HOW they make the movie. IF Odalie/Rose/Ginerva are the same person, how are they going to show that? Will the actresses look like Kira Knightly (to show some hint that they are linked) or will they be physically different to show each personality.

I think whoever she is, Ginerva, rose or Odalie, she always has 3 personalities. Shedding one to take another. I think Adele was one her previous inventions, or else what is the point of that story to the plot?

Omg i totallly didnt think about the multiple personaility disorder angle until i read your post. But for some reaosn it doesnt click, the mai reason being the brooch. She couldnt have picked it up anywhere in the precint. If she wouldve picked it up somewhere else i wouldve believed it triggered the multiple personality thing. Plus i would be dissappointed if it was MPD cuz the novel would be a copy cat of fight club, and i really loved it

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I'm a touch-typist, and I want to learn piano. Does my touch-typing help me learn it faster? I have a good amount of control over my left hand, and my palms are curved as if I hold an small orange. My pinkies (little fingers) are staying on keyboard, and all of my fingers are not getting far in the air while I'm typing. Do these attributes help me learn piano faster?

As far as I can see, your only benefit will be already having learned the basics of technique (that is, if you type properly, with relaxed fingers, wrists held high, etc). The finger independence that you'll have learned is certainly important, but I don't think that it will help you in any significant way for the following reasons:

It is a multi-disciplinary skill that involves broad aspects of thinking, anticipation, repetition and listening, not just how fast or independently your fingers can move. If that was all it took, then every 75 year old grandmother that has been knitting for 40 years could play like Chopin.

While theoretically it's probably better than nothing, I don't think it will matter. Maybe if you were used to a typewriter, because you have to develop your muscles more for that. There are certainly superficial similarities but major things like playing smoothly, heavily repeated patterns, moving up and down the keyboard, chord positions etc. won't be informed by your typing.

I've personally actually found it to be a detriment, the same with having previously been a percussionist. You're used to using your hands in concert; when typing, your hands are working together in order to create the words, code or whatever you're typing.

Once you move to piano, all of a sudden you need your hands to do dramatically different things. Your hands are so used to moving together and working together that when you're trying to do melody in one hand and harmony in another, it's easy for what you're doing with one hand to bleed over into the other. It can make playing syncopated pieces or anything with a good deal of hand independence a real chore.

Now, touch typing will help with your hand-eye coordination, which means you'll probably not have to look down as much sooner than others. But for the most part, I've found the large amount of typing, drumming (not the kit variety. That would've probably helped!) and driving I've done to actually make hand independence that much harder.

I think it helps, definitely. I just returned to piano playing after more than 25 years - quit when i was 13 or so, had classical lessons for about 6 years by then, up to a decent standard for a 13 year old.

I've been super surprised how much it's come back, after just a week I'm almost playing fur elise again. And I'm sure typing in my job helps. It's given me finger strength, flexibility and co-ordination. It didn't occur to me, I was just pleased I was playing again, then I was at work and just typing away, and i looked down and suddenly realised what I was doing - finger exercises! I've been doing finger exercises every day for years. If i was in a different trade and didn't use my fingers to type, I'm sure i would be wayyyyyy rustier. It doesn't help you read music, but i'm sure it helps with dexterity and co-ordination.

As a result, on a piano, he can easily use the existing expertise on seven adjacent white keys for the left hand and same number for the right hand (one key aside is not a problem). Touch typist is also trained to reach all black keys in between (that would be the second upper row in the typewriter).

A piano keyboard is straight, not typing position. Your description rather reminds me of a bandonion rather than a piano: your hands stay in the same general position, and the arrangement of notes is largely arbitrary and has to be learned by heart. As a result, you don't fall victim to the temptation of excessive "key rollover" legato.

An in-between thing are diatonic and chromatic button accordions: you don't have a rest position there, the hand position more or less corresponds to pitch, arrangement is less linear (with chromatic, actually quite two-dimensional). Again, changing the overall hand position when doing scales and melodies involves practiced contortions that are absent in the fixed hand position of typewriting or bandonion (and likely also concertina) play.

I am pointing out some analogies rather than giving a recommendation: even with a larger visual similarity, good bandonion playing will take a good touch typist likely much longer than learning any piano-like instrument.

wow, i am definately shocked at how under-estimated speed-typing is, perhaps most of the commenters are actually just pianists and not speed-typers, if you're a speed typist or really know about it, then you must know that speed-typing gives a great ability to control and coordinate all your ten fingers naturally to the point where it's so fast and yet coordinated that you can't even track what each single finger is typing. It's that ability to type streams of words each word made of numerous different characters in a fraction of a second. An ability cannot be possible without almost perfecting the art of ligh-speed multi-tasking of fingers accordingly with your brain.

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