10 reasons not to use Linux

[KhmerGang]

Here are our top 10 reasons why you should leave Linux to the geeks
and stay loyal to your current OS.

1. Because you’re happy with your current OS
Open source software is all well and good, but when you think of what
we actually do with our PCs (reading email, browsing the web,
listening to music), there are equally good solutions available for
Linux, Windows and Mac. So, why change?

2. You don’t need to know how to build a car if all you want to do is
drive
If you can build, program and understand source code then you’re
highly-skilled and well done to you. But not everyone wants to do
that, nor does everyone have the time to learn. If you can turn on
your PC, click a couple of icons and access your favourite programs
with no fuss, that’s enough.

3. So as to not look like a geek
All those tech terms might sound cool to someone already using Linux,
but let’s face the truth: almost nobody in your circle of friends
knows much about this kind of stuff, and you sound weird when you
start talking about Gnome, Gimp and Synaptic.

4. Plenty of software, but what about quality?
There are hundreds of applications for Linux but at the end of the
day, how many do you really need? We’d rather have one (easy-to-
install) program that works perfectly than dozens of tricky,
complicated apps that only ever do half of what they’re meant to.

5. The terminal is the Antichrist and wants to destroy us
Linux has changed considerably, and in most cases everything is done
via windows and mouse clicks. But the terminal is still there, lurking
in the darkness just waiting for the moment when you’ll have to use
it, so it can respond with messages like “Incorrect command! I don’t
know what you’re saying to me…install more packages while you still
have space, I’m telling root! Mount point! Mount point!”. Don’t do it.
You can lose your patience and your friends if you spend too long in
the Terminal Zone.

6. Because getting it to run smoothly is a Herculean task
Some people install Ubuntu on their laptop and everything goes
smoothly the first time around. Wi-Fi and webcam included. Urban myths
aside, it’s often very difficult to get Linux to work perfectly on
your machine, because it doesn’t recognise a peripheral, it’s
incompatible with your processor or simply because your video card
isn’t up to the high-powered graphical effects in the latest build of
your distro. And they complain about Vista!

7. Because if you’re in trouble, nobody will help you
The Linux community is large and has produced any number of manuals
and tutorials to help out newbies. There are even distributions with
technical support. But when you’re in real trouble (a broken UI or
mount issues, for example), you can bet that you’ll be the only person
who has ever had that issue. Advice in forums can be useful but it
often consists of ‘Read the FAQ’, ‘Please search before asking’ or
‘Right… open the terminal…’ (see point 5).

8. Because at work, everyone uses Windows
Things can get even more annoying if you use specialised applications
for your daily tasks. And if you’re using Windows at work, why not use
it at home too? Or at least a Mac.

9. Because Apples are cooler than Penguins
Apple has managed to sell products that we end up loving like a
friend. Many pray every night for Steve Jobs to bring them a new Mac
for Christmas. By contrast, Linux kinda lacks glamour.

10. To be contrary
You want to buck this ‘free software’ trend and stick to the most
proprietary stuff you can get your hands on? Windows is your friend.

Oh and 11. Games

[evannak]

Nice reasons, aren't they?

On Oct 6, 2:49 pm, KhmerGang <khmerg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are our top 10 reasons why you should leave Linux to the geeks
> and stay loyal to your current OS.

My current os is OpenSUSE...

>
> 1. Because you’re happy with your current OS
> Open source software is all well and good, but when you think of what
> we actually do with our PCs (reading email, browsing the web,
> listening to music), there are equally good solutions available for
> Linux, Windows and Mac. So, why change?

Yes they all can do the same things but why don't you try the one
which is "FREE" & "OPEN"? Or you like to spend money?

>
> 2. You don’t need to know how to build a car if all you want to do is
> drive
> If you can build, program and understand source code then you’re
> highly-skilled and well done to you. But not everyone wants to do
> that, nor does everyone have the time to learn. If you can turn on
> your PC, click a couple of icons and access your favourite programs
> with no fuss, that’s enough.

What you need is not just to drive but how to fix the car or maintain
your car otherwise the tire will be flatted and accident will happen.

>
> 3. So as to not look like a geek
> All those tech terms might sound cool to someone already using Linux,
> but let’s face the truth: almost nobody in your circle of friends
> knows much about this kind of stuff, and you sound weird when you
> start talking about Gnome, Gimp and Synaptic.

Yes that is why there was a barcampphnompenh to help spreading the
words

>
> 4. Plenty of software, but what about quality?
> There are hundreds of applications for Linux but at the end of the
> day, how many do you really need? We’d rather have one (easy-to-
> install) program that works perfectly than dozens of tricky,
> complicated apps that only ever do half of what they’re meant to.

it is a freedom of chioce... choose the one that u like and leave away
what you don't. it is like M$ Windows, even you don't like it but you
don't have chioces. Your chioce is to spend $$$$

>
> 5. The terminal is the Antichrist and wants to destroy us
> Linux has changed considerably, and in most cases everything is done
> via windows and mouse clicks. But the terminal is still there, lurking
> in the darkness just waiting for the moment when you’ll have to use
> it, so it can respond with messages like “Incorrect command! I don’t
> know what you’re saying to me…install more packages while you still
> have space, I’m telling root! Mount point! Mount point!”. Don’t do it.
> You can lose your patience and your friends if you spend too long in
> the Terminal Zone.

Why you bother to use Konsole in Linux? Only Sysad uses that... for
simple users they can enjoy the KDE4.1 as their GUI.

>
> 6. Because getting it to run smoothly is a Herculean task
> Some people install Ubuntu on their laptop and everything goes
> smoothly the first time around. Wi-Fi and webcam included. Urban myths
> aside, it’s often very difficult to get Linux to work perfectly on
> your machine, because it doesn’t recognise a peripheral, it’s
> incompatible with your processor or simply because your video card
> isn’t up to the high-powered graphical effects in the latest build of
> your distro. And they complain about Vista!

Because those hardware are built in the contract of M$ with Vendors.
Users who want to use New Version of M$ Windows they need to buy New
Hardware... or the whole PC.

>
> 7. Because if you’re in trouble, nobody will help you
> The Linux community is large and has produced any number of manuals
> and tutorials to help out newbies. There are even distributions with
> technical support. But when you’re in real trouble (a broken UI or
> mount issues, for example), you can bet that you’ll be the only person
> who has ever had that issue. Advice in forums can be useful but it
> often consists of ‘Read the FAQ’, ‘Please search before asking’ or
> ‘Right… open the terminal…’ (see point 5).

Open Source community will never leave you alone. it is just that they
ask you to read the FAQ or Search Before Asking because they don't
want you to ask same same repeated questions. and yes it is not worth
to ask the same question for 1 million times.

>
> 8. Because at work, everyone uses Windows
> Things can get even more annoying if you use specialised applications
> for your daily tasks. And if you’re using Windows at work, why not use
> it at home too? Or at least a Mac.

at work they use pirated M$ Windows and it is illigal so do i have to
follow that? or they pay for the license (says 500$?) so do I?

>
> 9. Because Apples are cooler than Penguins
> Apple has managed to sell products that we end up loving like a
> friend. Many pray every night for Steve Jobs to bring them a new Mac
> for Christmas. By contrast, Linux kinda lacks glamour.

Because Penguins are free and available everywhere so you don't pray
for it. The poor, the rich... can enjoy the world of freedom..

>
> 10. To be contrary
> You want to buck this ‘free software’ trend and stick to the most
> proprietary stuff you can get your hands on? Windows is your friend.

Yes Windows is your friend but not you choice... if there are no
pirated copies of Windows in cambodia how many ppl can afford to use M
$ Windows? maybe only 77 ppl from barcamp...
>
> Oh and 11. Games

if you spend lost of money to buy PC, M$ Windows just to play game so
enjoy it....

[chin pisey]

YoB....

[Chantra Be]

Windows 7 Sins:

The new version of Microsoft's Windows operating system, Windows 7, has the same problem that Vista, XP, and all previous versions have had -- it's proprietary software. Users are not permitted to share or modify the Windows software, or examine how it works inside.

The fact that Windows 7 is proprietary means that Microsoft asserts legal control over its users through a combination of copyrights, contracts, and patents. Microsoft uses this power to abuse computer users. At windows7sins.org, the Free Software Foundation lists seven examples of abuse committed by Microsoft.

1. Poisoning education: Today, most children whose education involves computers are being taught to use one company's product: Microsoft's. Microsoft spends large sums on lobbyists and marketing to corrupt educational departments. An education using the power of computers should be a means to freedom and empowerment, not an avenue for one corporation to instill its monopoly.

2. Invading privacy: Microsoft uses software with backward names like Windows Genuine Advantage to inspect the contents of users' hard drives. The licensing agreement users are required to accept before using Windows warns that Microsoft claims the right to do this without warning.

3. Monopoly behavior: Nearly every computer purchased has Windows pre-installed -- but not by choice. Microsoft dictates requirements to hardware vendors, who will not offer PCs without Windows installed on them, despite many people asking for them. Even computers available with other operating systems like GNU/Linux pre-installed often had Windows on them first.

4. Lock-in: Microsoft regularly attempts to force updates on its users, by removing support for older versions of Windows and Office, and by inflating hardware requirements. For many people, this means having to throw away working computers just because they don't meet the unnecessary requirements for the new Windows versions.

5. Abusing standards: Microsoft has attempted to block free standardization of document formats, because standards like OpenDocument Format would threaten the control they have now over users via proprietary Word formats. They have engaged in underhanded behavior, including bribing officials, in an attempt to stop such efforts.

6. Enforcing Digital Restrictions Management (DRM): With Windows Media Player, Microsoft works in collusion with the big media companies to build restrictions on copying and playing media into their operating system. For example, at the request of NBC, Microsoft was able to prevent Windows users from recording television shows that they have the legal right to record.

7. Threatening user security: Windows has a long history of security vulnerabilities, enabling the spread of viruses and allowing remote users to take over people's computers for use in spam-sending botnets. Because the software is secret, all users are dependent on Microsoft to fix these problems -- but Microsoft has its own security interests at heart, not those of its users.

Chantra

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[Danh Hong]

I prefer Linux for localization. Windows 7 of Microsoft is ok but it still has problem with Khmer default font and keyboard. So the Linux still have more than 10 reasons to exist. --- On Tue, 10/6/09, evannak <vanna...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Lonh Samdy]

It seem that one prefer their side strongly.

The main reason that Windows does not sully support Khmer Language is Cambodia still have a very small market for them to consider our language. and most of Microsoft Product in Cambodia are pirated with no license. I think we might need to wait a long time for Windows to FULLY SUPPORT our KHMER LANGUAGE.

However, if you really want to help improve Khmer Computerization i wish all of you help support our existing and smoothly run project such as OpenOffice, Mekhakla, Moyura, Joomla, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu etc.

Regards,

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Samdy Lonh
Project Manager
Office : 012 35 77  88
Mobile: 077 90 90 77
http://kh.resolvo.com

[Khou Suylong]

wow at least, I can say thank you for all your support with Open Source. It looks like if Microsoft should learn to say this word, then the world will be more utilized of technology, says "sharing is caring".

Cheers

2009/10/7 Lonh Samdy <samd...@gmail.com>

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Khou Suylong

[Danh Hong]

I agree with Samady's points, but the market size is not always important. I have seen Tibetan and Laotian font in Windows 7 are very nice compare to Khmer font while those markets are quite smaller than Khmer. Maybe Microsoft team in Cambodia is also victim of wrong information relate to Khmer Unicode. If what I think is true, it is not hopeful for next version of windows. --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Khou Suylong <khou.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Akkhra Ek]

To Fighting Barcamp Phnom Penh,

I'm so tired to get your fighting mail through barcamp.
I feel so sorry right now to join barcamp group, cos it runs out of my mind.

I think that Barcamp will discuss to find a good solution for me and other who younger of IT knowledge.
I wish to get new knowledge, technology and a helpful thing from all of you who has more and more experiences.

But, it wasn't like that. The most mail to reply each other like you are all not Khmer.
You should change Barcamp Phnom Penh to The Third World War Barcamp Phnom Penh.

It's just some idea from Khmer, hope you are all who is not Khmer stop to make a fighting mail.

I would like to say thank you to every one who shear a good knowledge to me and someone who are new in IT Sector.

And I would like to say stop fighting mail, if you are Khmer.

Many Thanks,

[Virak.HOR]

Yab! khmer ey na... Jrenh! :p what should khmer talk about?
All are Geeks, sharing a lot ideas and knowledge, not a fighting. U men merl or merl men yol?

viirak

[SOK Sopheak]

Hey, you gus!!

Challenging about IT is NOT war... Why? Because, it is the same to sport (Boxing, Footabll,...) during run-time we have to challenge each other with our reasonable and acceptable idea to our competitor but at the end, we still friend or relative as we are living in the same country (Cambodia).

Thus, if you want to mention on your word "We are khmer or not?". Let answer one question ("Do everybody dare to die to protect our country or not?". The real answer is in your. If we talking about IT, we can share and challenge with each other for purpose to gain the experiences, information, and knowledge.

Sopheak

[chin pisey]

Yesss we're friends :)

 

Just share.............................we're not doing war here <3

[veasna phal]

Hello,

I don't really understand what you wrote before about OS because I'm not Bill Gate or .... Could we try another topic?

But don't focus that much on IT because according to my lesson at school to be a professional worker are good at both Technical skill and Profession skill.

So my suggestion is to raise up the topic that make us internationalize to be able to work every where for every circumstance with every people. For this topic every should discuses together when should we finish it, then pick up another topic.
The idea is that to let every one know the basic concept of each topic it likes "The more topic the more you know"

Thanks.

Veasna.

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DOP2009 - Database Oriented Programming
Center for Information Systems Training
Tel: +855 (0) 74 39 97
Email: veasn...@gmail.com
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[vannak pen]

Dear all,

All your reasons that you have posted are all correct. It's up to your real situation.

The reasons that posted are good to support your idea.

However if we keep taking our own idea, we could not find the good solution.

I think, we should find a good solution to finish this topic.

So it could make some one not bore with our forum room.

Best Regards,
PEN Vannak.

[PONGSA METREY SOK]

Hi,
Just to take note that some conflicts could not find the real solution as both are keeping the strong opinion but all information given around with a very long discussion should be enough for us to find what's exactly we want.

Especially when the topic become very very long discussion or starting very important to keep track of discussion, the barcampphnompenh.org should prepare a forum for those who want to continue the discussion and we can get into that more deeply.

Just when the topic just posting here become very long, I won't look that as I can see 2 main discussions give:
- 10 reasons not to use linux
- 7 reasons not to use Windows
Only these two reasons, I take into account so the rest of topic can go to forum discussion.

I would prefer also that barcamper keep spirit of sharing the topic we did at barcamp; better to have full of those discussion again in barcamp forum: http://barcampphnompenh.org/forum/

Here example, I found a related topic we did during barcamp:
http://barcampphnompenh.org/forum/topic/presentation-slide-of-share-vision-team-members

Thx,
Metrey,

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Mr. SOK Pongsa Metrey