Spread the world about barcamp hanoi :)
hoatle
are many ways that we can do:
- Yahoo messenger status: Is anyone interested in organizing or
joining barcamp hanoi? Just ping me, plz :)
- Tweet this: is anyone interested in organizing or joining
#barcamphanoi, just ping me :). Plz retweet, tks :)
- Should write introduction to barcamp hanoi to as many it forums,
group as possible. I'm writing one, so I will post it here to spread
the world, and you can post yours here plz :)
- About volunteers for barcamp, my faculty is full of girl future-
supposed-interpreter :), they are very active. Now all we need is a to-
do list for us to choose and complete it. How many volunteers do we
want??? I'm afraid I call for so many so we have a contest for
volunteer =)) (just joking)
- Some documents about barcamp saigon organization exprerience was
sent to Ning Nguyen (right?). So could you share it or I will get it
from barcamp saigon organizers now :)
Daravuth KEU
----------------------------------------------------------
Daravuth kEU, SE-FIT-HUT
Tel : (+84) 91 444 0334
Site : www.ijajaja.com
hoatle
then barcamp saigon, then barcamp hanoi :). So many interesting info
to write up, wait for your article ;)
Daravuth KEU
The good news is that some Cambodian bloggers are sth about BC Hanoi too :)
Daravuth KEU
Ninh Nguyen
We will have our own documents for specific tasks soon, right after we have the homepage. I am setting up it based on Wordpress. For me Wordpress is still much simpler than Drupal. Is that okie, Hoat? If okie, I need something to finish the work:
- An official logo. There is one from Barcamp Hanoi 1 here (http://www.barcamphanoi.org/BarcampHanoi.png) but I think you guys can submit your own ideas and we will make a poll.
- Somebody fluently in both English and Vietnamese to take charge of keeping the homepage up to date.
About marketing activities, please think twice. We will only have space for 100-300 people. So mass marketing is a bad idea. Choose the right targets. It's just my opinion. I think we will have to set up a meeting about this.
Ninh Viet Nguyen
nin...@gmail.com
http://www.ninhnv.com
Daravuth KEU
hoatle
> I only have got some documents about asking venue sponsorship. Almost
> resources about Barcamp Saigon can be accessed easily at http://www.barcampsaigon.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=2008_org_home especially
> about volunteers' work. You guys who want to be a volunteer for Barcamp
> Hanoi should check it out.
share soon :)
> the homepage. I am setting up it based on Wordpress. For me Wordpress is
> still much simpler than Drupal. Is that okie, Hoat? If okie, I need
> something to finish the work:
list and we can all create + edit + assign task, deadline (of course
with administration). Any recommendation?
- To me + huydung: Drupal is much easier to set up + run + complete
the content. It depends on experience, right?
> - An official logo. There is one from Barcamp Hanoi 1 here (http://www.barcamphanoi.org/BarcampHanoi.png) but I think you guys can
> submit your own ideas and we will make a poll.
> the homepage up to date.
> 100-300 people. So mass marketing is a bad idea. Choose the right targets.
> It's just my opinion. I think we will have to set up a meeting about this.
if a meeting is necessary and every one can come for easier
discussion, why not?
>
>
>
> > Everyone just waits and sees. It'll be posted tomorrow evening i expect :D
> > i'll tweet and send to this group.
> > The good news is that some Cambodian bloggers ask me sth about BC Hanoi too
> > :)
>
>
> >> Everyone just waits and sees. It'll be posted tomorrow evening i expect :D
> >> i'll tweet and send to this group.
> >> The good news is that some Cambodian bloggers are sth about BC Hanoi too
> >> :)
>
hoatle
On Feb 19, 11:35 pm, Daravuth KEU <keu.darav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Viettel is the first sponsor i suggest. I used to attend AEISEC meeting.
> There, there're some presentations from the director of Viettel multimedia.
> He seems to be passionated in conducting the social activities..
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Ninh Nguyen <ninh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I only have got some documents about asking venue sponsorship. Almost
> > resources about Barcamp Saigon can be accessed easily at
> >http://www.barcampsaigon.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=2008_org_homeespecially
> > about volunteers' work. You guys who want to be a volunteer for Barcamp
> > Hanoi should check it out.
>
> > We will have our own documents for specific tasks soon, right after we have
> > the homepage. I am setting up it based on Wordpress. For me Wordpress is
> > still much simpler than Drupal. Is that okie, Hoat? If okie, I need
> > something to finish the work:
>
> > - An official logo. There is one from Barcamp Hanoi 1 here (
> >http://www.barcamphanoi.org/BarcampHanoi.png) but I think you guys can
> > submit your own ideas and we will make a poll.
> > - Somebody fluently in both English and Vietnamese to take charge of
> > keeping the homepage up to date.
>
> > About marketing activities, please think twice. We will only have space for
> > 100-300 people. So mass marketing is a bad idea. Choose the right targets.
> > It's just my opinion. I think we will have to set up a meeting about this.
>
>
> >> Everyone just waits and sees. It'll be posted tomorrow evening i expect :D
> >> i'll tweet and send to this group.
> >> The good news is that some Cambodian bloggers ask me sth about BC Hanoi
> >> too :)
>
>
> >>> Everyone just waits and sees. It'll be posted tomorrow evening i expect
> >>> :D i'll tweet and send to this group.
> >>> The good news is that some Cambodian bloggers are sth about BC Hanoi too
> >>> :)
>
Chip
--
Best Regards,
--------
Email: ch...@huyenchip.com
Yahoo/Skype: huyenchip19
Blog: http://huyenchip.com
hoatle
Here is my post in En + Vi. Just fill in the contact list for people
to contact for more info. I'm first in the last post section. Just
give your info as mine (if you don't want, it's not a requirement).
On Feb 20, 2:48 am, Chip <huyennt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll blog about it, and get some newspapers to report about Barcamp Hanoi
> both before and after the event if you want.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 19, 11:35 pm, Daravuth KEU <keu.darav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Viettel is the first sponsor i suggest. I used to attend AEISEC meeting.
> > > There, there're some presentations from the director of Viettel
> > multimedia.
> > > He seems to be passionated in conducting the social activities..
>
> > Nice, eXo platform sponsors barcamp hanoi :)
>
> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Ninh Nguyen <ninh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I only have got some documents about asking venue sponsorship. Almost
> > > > resources about Barcamp Saigon can be accessed easily at
>
hoatle
Hi everyone,
To tell the truth, I'm a little envious of some HCM city (Saigon)
geeks' activities, especially about Barcamp Saigon 1 and their #H3 :(.
What about in Hanoi? Just correct me if I'm wrong but it seem there
hasn't been any such interesting events in Hanoi. Here I just want to
mention and introduce Barcamp Hanoi 2. You can just google some
keyworks orderly to get info: barcamp to have general ideas about what
is barcamp, barcampsaigon to know what Saigon geeks did to complete
the task of organizing barcamp saigon 1. Then the last keywork is
barcamphanoi to know more about Barcamp Hanoi organization status :).
And then I will call for organizers + volunteers + participants + some
other things :)
Firstly, about Barcamp Hanoi 2. Why 2? Good question :P, do you
know that Barcamp Hanoi 1 was first organized in Vietnam, esp in
Hanoi :). Just check this: http://blog.exoplatform.org/2007/12/28/barcamp-hanoi/
So, Barcamp Hanoi 1 was organized by eXo employees (esp. jeremi ) just
in internal eXo Platform SEA employees. And Now we (Hanoi geeks,
bloggers, volunteers...) are organizing Barcamp Hanoi 2.
After the great success of Barcamp Saigon 1, some efforts to
organize Barcamp Hanoi 2 started but in slow progress. Sometime it was
supposed to happen before Tet holiday, then just some weeks after Tet
holiday. But now we're still preparing for it and the progress is very
fast. This post is also for the purpose of preparation for Barcamp
Hanoi 2. Please just check out what is happening in Barcamp Hanoi 2
organization: http://groups.google.com.vn/group/barcamphanoi?hl=en.
So here I'm calling for organizers for Barcamp Hanoi 2 :). It's
open to everyone :). Now the number of organizers can not be counted
more than 10 and there are many many things to do. Some points just
remember: Just join in organizer team when you have passionation +
know the spirit of barcamp :). Some volunteers needed for doing other
things like food-prepare (don't worry, you do not have to cook any
meal :P), T-shirt design (for designers), sponsorship for persuasive
speakers and many other things you can do for Barcamp Hanoi 2.
To participants: Know about barcamp spirit, know about barcamp
rules, huh :P. No audience (exept for volunteers), just participants:
think about what you will share for Barcamp Hanoi 2 (IT based topic),
and what topics you're interesting. We will have some forms to get
info soon. We will make Barcamp Hanoi 2 as great and relaxed as
possible. If too many people will go for registering Barcamp Hanoi 2,
we will have to filter out out some people :( because of time + venue
+ other problems.
- Some expectations:
+ What: call it Barcamp Hanoi 2 ;)
+ When: April 12 (supposed)
+ Where: RMIT Hanoi or Genetic BK or other?
+ Who: any one interested in joining barcamp, participants but not
audience :)
+ How many people there: About 200 geeks. So think about some
interesting topics to have your seat at Barcamp Hanoi 2. The seats are
limited :)
+ official tag for Barcamp Hanoi 2: barcamphanoi
+ official website for Barcamp Hanoi 2 will be updated soon, just
check it here http://barcamphanoi.org
+ Twitter to follow: http://twitter.com/barcamphanoi
Links:
- Google group for organizers: http://groups.google.com.vn/group/barcamphanoi?hl=en
(English)
Just ping some of us here to get more info:
1. Hoat Le Van (http://hoatle.net )
email: hoatlevan at gmail dot com
yahoo: wild_tiger8607
skype: hoatlevan
twitter: http://twitter.com/hoatle
hoatle
Chào các anh-chị-em-bạn, nói tóm lại là chào mọi người :P
Tớ tên là Hoạt. Để biết thêm chi tiết google với từ khoá là hoatle hộ
tớ với :).
Nói thật là tớ hơi ghen tị với một số hoạt động của các bạn ở thành
phố HCM (tên dài :(, gọi là Sài Gòn nha), đặc biệt là Barcamp Saigon 1
và #H3 :(. Còn ở Hà Nội thì sao? Có phải là tớ sai khi nói rằng hầu
như ở Hà Nội không có những hoạt động như thế này. Nhưng mà tớ xinh
chỉ nói và giới thiệu về Barcamp Hanoi 2 ở đây vì đây là topic mà, còn
những cái khác tớ không đề cập thì các bạn có thể tự tìm hiểu thêm. Để
biết thêm 1 số thông tin cần thiết trước khi đọc tiếp, bạn có thể tìm
trên google với lần lượt những từ khoá sau đây: barcamp để tìm hiểu
thông tin chung về barcamp, các quy tắc, phong cách...; tiếp đến là
barcampsaigon để biết thêm thông tin về Barcamp Saigon 1, cách các bạn
ở đấy tiến hành tổ chức và có các hoạt động gì, topic gì... Và từ khoá
cuối cùng là barcamphanoi để biết thêm thông tin về tình hình tổ chức
Barcamp Hanoi 2 lần này. Giới thiệu 1 chút về Barcamp Hanoi 2, tớ sẽ
kêu gọi thêm 1 số bạn vào organizer team + tình nguyện + người tham dự
cùng một số thứ linh tinh khác :P
Đầu tiên là về Barcamp Hanoi 2. Tại sao lại là 2? Bạn có biết là
Barcamp Hanoi 1 đã được tổ chức lần đầu tiên ở Việt Nam, đặc biệt hơn
là ở Hà Nội. Tớ chắc chắn là rất ít người biết đến bởi vì bạn xem link
sau http://blog.exoplatform.org/2007/12/28/barcamp-hanoi/. Đấy, sẽ rất
ít người biết bởi vì Barcamp Hanoi 1 được tổ chức nội bộ bởi nhân viên
eXo Platform SEA, đặc biệt người đề xướng là jeremi. Còn bây giờ bọn
tớ (Một số geek, blogger, tình nguyện ở Hà Nội) đang tổ chức Barcamp
Hanoi 2.
Sau sự thành công của Barcamp Saigon 1 (http://barcampsaigon.org),
mới đầu Barcamp Hanoi 2 được khởi xướng và tiến hành nhưng với tốc độ
khá chậm. Có lúc định ngày là trước tết cơ, xong không ổn lại bàn dồn
ngày sau tết vài tuần. Nhưng đến giờ thì bọn tớ vẫn đang chuẩn bị cho
nó. Tuy nhiên hiện quá trình chuẩn bị đang được gấp rút chuẩn bị, viết
bài post này cũng là bước chuẩn bị đó. Để biết thêm thông tin về tình
hình tổ chức Barcamp Hanoi 2, bạn có thể xem ở google group của nhóm
tại: http://groups.google.com.vn/group/barcamphanoi?hl=en.
Giờ thì đến tiết mục kêu gọi thêm nhà tổ chức cho Barcamp Hanoi
2 :). Mọi người đều có thể tham gia. Hiện tại số người tổ chức không
quá 10 người và có rất nhiều thứ phải làm. Tuy nhiên để tham gia tổ
chức bạn nên nhớ là: Chỉ tham gia vào đội tổ chức khi bạn thật sự hứng
thú và biết về tinh thần của barcamp :). Bọn tớ cũng cần một số tình
nguyện viên để cùng mọi người thực hiện những công việc khác như:
chuẩn bị đồ ăn trưa (đừng lo, không ai phải vào bếp đâu mà sợ :P),
thiết kế T-shirt hoặc Logo (cho dân thiết kế), đi xin tài trợ dành cho
những bạn nói dễ thuyết phục, viết blog về sự kiện, viết bài đăng
báo... và còn nhiều thứ khác nữa bạn có thể giúp Barcamp Hanoi 2.
Đối với các bạn tham dự: Biết về tinh thần của barcamp, biết về quy
tắc của barcamp, ok :P. Không có người nghe (trừ những tình nguyện
viên), còn lại đều phải là người tham gia: hãy nghĩ về chủ đề bạn sẽ
nói ở Barcamp Hanoi 2 lần này (liên quan IT). Bọn tớ sẽ có 1 số form
điền thông tin sớm thôi ;). Bọn tớ sẽ cố gắng chuẩn bị và làm cho
Barcamp Hanoi 2 vui nhất có thể. Nếu như có quá nhiều người đăng kí
tham gia Barcamp Hanoi 2, bọn tớ rất tiếc sẽ phải loại bỏ để có đủ số
người dự tính (khoảng 200) vì lí do thời gian + địa điểm + nhiều vấn
đề khác nữa.
Một số dự tính:
+ What: Sự kiện này là Barcamp Hanoi nha ;)
+ When: Có thể là ngày 12 tháng 4.
+ Where: Chưa biết được, có thể là RMIT Hanoi hoặc Genetic BK hoặc địa
điểm khác?
+ Who: Bất kì ai quan tâm và muốn tham gia barcamp, tất nhiên là người
tham gia chứ không phải là khán giả nha :)
+ Bao nhiêu người ở đấy: Khoảng 200 người. Bạn hãy nghĩ về chủ đề thú
vị để còn có suất ở Barcamp Hanoi 2 chứ. Số ghế là có hạn.
+ Tag chính thức cho tất tần tật những gì liên quan đến Barcamp Hanoi:
barcamphanoi
+ Website chính thức sẽ đang được cập nhật: http://barcamphanoi.org
+ Folllow twitter để được update những thông tin mới nhất:
http://twitter.com/barcamphanoi
Hey, it's time for us to join Barcamp Hanoi 2. What you are waiting
for? Spread the world about this event is a resprectedly helpful
action.
Đấy, đã đến lúc mọi người tham gia Barcamp Hanoi 2 rồi. Bạn còn chờ gì
nữa? Ít nhất thì bạn cũng tham gia và giúp đỡ Barcamp Hanoi 2 rất
nhiều khi cho bạn bè, mọi người biết về Barcamp Hanoi 2.
Liên kết:
- Google group cho các bạn tổ chức thảo luận:
http://groups.google.com.vn/group/barcamphanoi?hl=en
Nếu cần biết thêm thông tin, liên lạc với bọn tớ:
1. Lê Văn Hoạt (http://hoatle.net )
hoatle
http://hoatle.net/en/Barcamp-Hanoi-2-Will-Come-Soon (English version)
http://hoatle.net/vi/Barcamp-Hanoi-2-Dang-Den-Rat-Gan (Vietnamese
version)
I will post in many other forums this afternoon, too :). Just give
your contact info so that I can update the update list for the post,
tks :)
Ninh Nguyen
No, we will spread the world and then choose the best ones, why not?
And in your post I see something that's not really correct I think.
- Barcamp is not only for geeks. What's a geek? BarCamp is open. Anybody can attend—as long as they come with the intention of participating in the discussions.
- The topic is recommened in IT based topic but it's really unlimited. People's free to choose what topic they want to see and discuss, right? And as I know there will be at least one presentation about Global Issues and one about Haiku in our coming event.
Just my 2 cents
Ninh Nguyen
So sad but actually It happened in some open conferences
Huy
> - Should write introduction to barcamp hanoi to as many it forums,
> group as possible. I'm writing one, so I will post it here to spread
> the world, and you can post yours here plz :)
Hi guys,
I would be careful about that.
If you spread the word about BarCamp Hanoi, just don't have a signup list yet.
Only tell people about BarCamp Hanoi and call for organizers/volunteers.
But don't let people register too early.
You may quickly fill up your attendance list and then will have to turn people away like we at BarCamp Saigon did.
Your venue will have a hard limit for the number of attendees, so you can't gamble too much with the numbers.
I recommend that you decide what the optimal types of attendees are.
And then do marketing fairly and simultaneously through all possible channels.
We tried to be optimal, and in the end we could have done better.
Sometimes we had entire companies take up 20-30 spots, especially sponsors, whom of course you don't turn away.
When there's limited space and there is not cost to signup, people tend to go a little crazy. :)
Huy
Huy
There's no reason why you should limit the number of organizers to 10.
Ideally, I think you need twice as many.
There are just too many things to do.
hoat le
recommendations soon after class time :)
-----------------------------------
Hoat Le Van [hoatle.net]
hoatle
- Firstly, I agree that we should prevent bad people joining barcamp
just for T-shirts and food. No, we have to :) and we will now show the
registration when it's not ready.
- Secondly, Barcamp Attendees includes:
1. Organizers + volunteers + (special) guests + pre-registered
attendees
2. Registered attendees from official registration form (fast full
filled in a short period of time)
3. Special registers: They will contact us directly and we will
consider them in waiting list or promote some to official attendees.
So why don't we spread the world about barcamp hanoi? If we don't do
that, how to get sponsorship when they know that not many people know
about this event. What sponsors' purpose for this event, we all know.
And if more people know about this event, it's easier for us to get
sponsorship. Right?
To prevent bad people attending just for T-shirts + food, we should
careful about registration management.
I want to emphasize that it's essential for as many people know about
this as possible. This is a special event, a festival like. Don't
hide, don't be so mean to other people. If I do sth wrong, just let me
know. Everything should be as open as possible.
**Registration managment** In my case, total seats = seats for
organizers + volunteers + guests + attendees.
- Pre-registration: This is the 1st priority. These pre-registered
will almost show up for barcamp hanoi. This period will end before
official registered period. So total pre-reg seats = organizers +
volunteers + guestss + pre-reg attendees.
- Official registration: the seats available = total seats - total pre-
reg seats.
- Special registration: Some how registered attendees can not show up,
or some interesting people are late when official registration is
closed. They will contact Registration Manager. RM should manage to
make sure enough seats for right people.
@Huy:
> There's no reason why you should limit the number of organizers to 10.
> Ideally, I think you need twice as many.
> There are just too many things to do.
organizers (the number who has contacted me). Sure, we need more. This
is a hard-word, and I know every one is very busy. I'll contact more
people to join and attend 2nd meetup to decide + discuss.
I think it's time for us to decide the time + place for 2nd meetup.
Huy
As for sponsorship, it didn't matter how many people actually knew about the event beforehand.
The name "barcamp" is enough for people to understand how big it is, so when we said 200-300 people, sponsors believed us and expected 200-300 people.
We did worry a little about it like you guys, so that's why we opened the registration form early to show lots of names on that registration list.
But actually, we ended up with too many names and we had to lock down the list.
So I wish we had not opened the registration so early and had to deal with companies that registered too many people.
Ultimately, there were still a lot of people who didn't know about it, and they will know next time. But we definitely had enough people.
hoatle
show up and give talk. I know some these guys, so why don't we give
them pre-registered seats when they're the right persons for barcamp.
Don't let these people to hurry up and chase with other persons:
including the bad persons just registering for T-shirts + Food.
My god, it's a bit difficult to write and to make people understand
me.
Hope you guys understand my bad expression :(
Ninh Nguyen
hoatle
willing to give talk and will certainly show up. So what if I know and
I'm responsible for these persons?
Right, I will not do anything silly without discussion :).
Because I'm also concerned about logo contest. If you do not spread
the world about it, who will know and who will take part in the
contest?
Just from my perspective.
Ok, that's all right. Nice discussion, guys :)
Ninh Nguyen
I am not sure how you do understand the term "spread the world about barcamp hanoi". Does it mean you have to spam to everywhere about Barcamp Hanoi? What I did above, I think, is also spreading the world about Barcamp Hanoi, but "the right world" in the context.
hoatle
job :). "Spread the world about barcamp hanoi" - I mean just let some
IT-forums know about it.
Ninh Nguyen
hoatle
great discussion. If I intend to do or am doing something, I will need
a post to discuss about it to avoid any undesired mistake he he :)
a a
Bu we are the organizer of Hanoi version - second one - but in my opinion it is the first one by some reason (U will have yours own idea), but we must identity some key problem:
- Attendee: Barcamp for every one who want to share but it is "every one in focus"
- Purpose of Barcamp Hanoi:
Forum for everybody share common interesting
Make some "noise"??
Inheritance - will be organized in next year??
Value achieve by Hanoi version??
Identify the "right" purpose we will have "right" way to do beside every common work to do when organize an event!
That is my contribution! Thanks all!
Gen Kanai
On Feb 22, 2009, at 10:36 AM, hoatle wrote:
>
> Ok, here we can discuss more about the registration problem.
> - Firstly, I agree that we should prevent bad people joining barcamp
> just for T-shirts and food. No, we have to :) and we will now show the
> registration when it's not ready.
If we are concerned about people coming to BCH just for t-shirt and
food, maybe we should consider giving out t-shirt at the end of the
day. So only those people who have participated the entire day can
receive the t-shirt.
Gen
Huy
The problem is that 70% of the people will not be there at the end of the day.
It doesn't mean that they don't care.
It just means they have other things to do, are tired, etc.--legitimate reasons.
We ended up with an excess of T-shirts and we wish they had our T-shirts to wear as advertising for BarCamp.
I think it's best if you give T-shirts away during a break time in the middle of the afternoon.
By the way, I think that BarCamp Saigon was too long--we should have made it about 1.5 hours earlier