can you remove the word "Bar" out of Barcamp?

[BrianLockwood]

Yesterday we discussed hosting a barcamp at Yokohama International
School and it was thought in a K-12 environment the word "bar" was an
inappropriate word. Is there flexibility in the Barcamp movement with
different names. Can you still have the movement of a Barcamp without
have the word "bar" in the title? We wondered could we rename it
Bridge Camp? It's all discussed & debated in this video http://bit.ly/10ziQB

Comments and questions are welcomed.

Cheers,


Brian Lockwood
Yokohama International School
http://blogs.yis.ac.jp/yisitd/
www.twitter.com/brianlockwood

[BarCamp Planners]

Hi Brian,

Yes, in fact many people have changed the name of their event to fit the content. Just take a look at the events listed on barcamp.org.

That said, it's worth point out that "Bar" in "BarCamp" is a programmer reference... as in "Foo" plus "Bar" equals "Baz", as was pointed out in your video. It's not related to alcohol dispensaries. ;)

Perhaps you guys should consider "GapCamp"?

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[Brian Lockwood]

That's excellent feed back thanks for your advice, I'll bring this topic up in our next IT meeting. When all our technology is working we usually stream our meeting at 11 AM on Thursday Japan standard time http://www.livestream.com/yis everyone welcome to join in, I'll try and have some one moderating chat so anyone can be part of the conversation.

Cheers,

Brian Lockwood
Yokohama International School
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[Frederic Baud]

Hi Brian,

Interestingly the question has usually been revolving around: Should
these guys call their event a BarCamp since it breaks some of the
basic rules (my view is equal access to the event, floor,
sponsorship,..)?

While anyone should have all lattitude to call their event a
SomethingCamp, I don't recall a conversation where we specifically
discussed what events can be considered "BarCamp-friendly" Camps. My
first reaction would be that it has to be non-profit events and that
they have to be very open. But the exact qualification of the word
open surely could start a whole discussion in itself.

You may consider joining certain derivative Camp movements and use
their name (e.g. EduCamp or any Camp in line with your project) as a
basis for your own local event. My take is that there is always much
to gain trying federating initiatives around the world as long as the
goals seem pretty much in line.

Cheers,

Frederic

On Jun 4, 11:26 pm, BrianLockwood <lockw...@mac.com> wrote:
> Yesterday we discussed hosting a barcamp at Yokohama International
> School and it was thought in a K-12 environment the word "bar" was an
> inappropriate word. Is there flexibility in the Barcamp movement with
> different names. Can you still have the movement of a Barcamp without
> have the word "bar" in the title? We wondered could we rename it

> Bridge Camp?  It's all discussed & debated in this videohttp://bit.ly/10ziQB

[rb...@sbcglobal.net]

Brian,

Thanks for sharing the videos.

While I had a hard time getting all the points some thoughts that hit me while watching the discussion.

 

I can understand some educators worrying about the "Bar" relating to drinking. However, within the USA there are other examples that one can relate to that is also pretty widespread.

·         Clearly in the Legal field "passing the Bar" or taking the Bar exam, etc is an obsession.

·         In a lot of the sports there is regular talk about "raising the bar." While that most likely had some roots in high jump and pole vault, it became synonymous with reach for higher levels of performance.

·         In shipping on rivers "crossing the bar"

·         Presentations we have the Bar charts

·         Music has "bar(s)"

·         Of course we have candy bar

·         etc

I am sure this group can think of a lot more. point being, we might just need to educate those who don't know. Maybe even a "vision" type statement as a "tag" line we can use.

 

Just some thoughts...........................

 

Bob

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[Amanda Abelove]

Why not use the tagline "Raise the bar for technology in schools" or "Removing bars to education" something?

Origins of the term bar:

The terms foobar, foo, bar, and baz, are common placeholder names (also referred to as metasyntactic variables) used in computer programming or computer-related documentation. They are commonly used to represent unknown values, typically when describing a scenario where the purpose of the unknown values are understood, but their precise values are arbitrary and unimportant. The terms can be used to represent any part of a complicated system or idea, including the data, variables, functions, and commands. The words themselves have no meaning in this usage, and are merely logical representations, much like the letters x and y are used in algebra. Foobar is often used alone; foo, bar, and baz are usually used in that order, when multiple entities are needed.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, BrianLockwood <lock...@mac.com> wrote:

[Mat]

GREAT POINT! I was at my gym yesterday and they have a "Juice Bar" I
was wondering if I can get them to remove the word "Bar" from there as
well ..I mean COME ON there are children at the gym...why won't anyone
think of the children..we have a far way to go cleaning up things to
make them more appropriate!

And Brian..I think the salutation "Cheers" is inappropriate as well as
it has connotations to drinking and alcohol.

On Jun 4, 2:26 pm, BrianLockwood <lockw...@mac.com> wrote:
> Yesterday we discussed hosting a barcamp at Yokohama International
> School and it was thought in a K-12 environment the word "bar" was an
> inappropriate word. Is there flexibility in the Barcamp movement with
> different names. Can you still have the movement of a Barcamp without
> have the word "bar" in the title? We wondered could we rename it

> Bridge Camp?  It's all discussed & debated in this videohttp://bit.ly/10ziQB

[Oliver Gassner]

Even worse,
lawyers in some countries have "bar exams".

How gross is that?

(Actually here in Germany law students have special events with the
police where they all try to get drunk and have alcohol tests, so that
they know what 1.8 promille REALLY means. But I guess the drinking and
testing is NOT mandatory ;) )

You can always call it an "open space" but tehn some might sue you
because you threaten to transport their kids into a vacuum.

OG

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