CCTV: Trust & Access Pilot

[Mark Lizar]

Hello All, 

I am starting to get really excited about this event, so excuse me if I tend to get more and more verbose.

This is an invitation to join the google group or pass this invitation on to someone who may be interested. We agreed at the first CCTV Pilot organising event yesterday that we use to be the main forum of communication organizing the effort and research for this event. 

Please join this group, if you haven't already, in order to help out and/or be kept up to date on this CCTV research pilot.  You can find this google group here 

http://groups.google.com:80/group/barcamp-transparency in the right column you will see a 'Join this group' link to sign up to the mailing list. 

About this research:

Similar to the citizens ability to arrest someone or detain someone until the police arrive, is the ability to audit how Trust worthiness of  organisations and institutions in your community, and like the ability to detain someone, for matters dealing with Volunteered Personal Information we can request enforcement from the Information Commissioner.  

This event on Aug 22nd, is more than just one event, it is apart of a formal research in conjunction with London South Bank University,  it is also a pilot of the development of open social reputation used to develop trust.  This pilot is research to be used for the development of a social theory which extends(reverses) the theory of the panopticon to be applied through community based regulations.  As well as research into the use of transparency to regulate volunteered personal information.  Most importantly this event is research into liberty in this country, to test and analyze the claim that Human Rights are systematically being abused in Hammersmith & Fulham, .

Before now this research wasn't possible, with the growth of social media technology and tools there is now an opportunity to test old social theory in a new environment and context.  This invitation is a call out to grow the core group of organisers,  to help make this research and event a success.  If you know of someone who  may be interested in participating as researcher or helping with the effort please pass this email on to them.  I am especially looking for lawyers and journalist that are interested in protecting freedom of the press and the legal right to control your own information.

I will be sending more emails to the barcamp-transparency mailing list to cover the needs of the organisation effort.  I have just re-organised the website  and will be working on developing the Facts Page and Pilot Research pages over the next few days.   

Especially please read the 'About this OSR Pilot' and help edit and polish this material at  http://identitytrustcic.org/cctv PLEASE PROVIDE suggestions for website content as soon as possible.  Below there is a list of milestones and dates, and a long list of things to do this week.  I have put some names of people besides different tasks feel free to discuss everything in this mailing list, discuss any of these items listed below, and please let me know if you are not able to do a task due to time/knowledge constraints as soon as possible so I can find a work around. 

Best Regards,

Mark

Critical Research Milestones and dates

- Wed- Aug 5 - Content ready to start looking for funding and support

- Tuesday - 11 - Test mail out of first CCTV Research Survey to Businesses

- Tuesday - 18 Aug - Test Day - to test the physical audit research process for glitches

- Event Day - 22 Aug - to send out 

- Submit Request by 26th of August to be in research study

Below is a list of emails am working on to send to the mailing list in next 24 hours, if there is something you can help with please let me know. 

Technical

- Website (Marcus)

- analytics? 

- donate/buy shirt button 

- put menu from the top of page to right column, and move archives from right column and move to top menu? 

- Feedback and suggestions

- Process for Pilot (Mark, Ben, Marcus)

- Pilot Facts Page (Mark & Charlie)

- Research Page (Mark)

- Process for Seal (Mark)

Design

Design of Signs & Trust Seal

Design of T-Shirt with Flickr (to send with sponsorship request) Marcus? 

Financial

- need payment options and the like to be established for various money taking efforts online

Media Announcements and Press - Sylwia

- Journalist to write proper articles and the media campaign with different media/news agencies 

- point of contact for the press party and media related activities

- Geek day Out

- Journalists Day Out

- Civil Liberties Day Out

- Lawyers Day Out

- Advice on Facebook Page

- copy writing

-       Letters Informing about Pilot

o   MET

o   ICO

o   Civil Liberties

o   Journalism Union

o   Press Releases

o   Press Party

[thehedgewytch]

Looking Good Mark
what do you need us to do?
Anyone else interested/helping out?

2009/8/3 Mark Lizar <ma...@smartspecies.com>:

--
"One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly
making exciting discoveries". By A A Milne

[Mark Lizar]

Hi Manda, 

Am getting different bits of help from individuals, it seems mailing lists are best for discussions about issues, more than getting people to proactively volunteer for things. 

Which brings the issue that I was hoping to bring up for discussion.   Do you think Hammersmith & Fulham is actually violating human rights every day with their CCTV practices?

I was hoping Louis, Simon, Gus, and Gary might have something to say about this issue. 

Its posted here, but the gist being that Hammersmith & Fulham has refused to provide CCTV camera and locations, in addition there is the prediction that 77% of the signs in Hammersmith dont have contact information or state their purpose.  These two facts combined a) violate the data protection act and b) violate Article 8 of European Convention of Human Rights.  

The argument being that 77% of these CCTV camera systems are illegally managing your digital identity.  This should either be fixed or these systems should be taken down and that those who break the law should be fined by the ICO. 

Any thoughts, 

You can find the full post about this issue here

Mark

[no-cctvuk]

It is very unlikely that you will be able to make a case that
Hammermith and Fulham are violating the Human Rights Act / convention
- this of course does not mean they are not violating human rights,
just that the Act/convention has so many get out clauses.

By refusing to give camera locations they are in breach of the
principles of the Freedom of Information / Data Protection acts and
possibly the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act.

If the use of the cameras/images was not clear then arguably Article 8
of the ECHR would be engaged but not necessarily breached. But if you
look at the Hammersmith and Fulham council website:
http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Directory/Business/Town_centre_management/CCTV/42285_CCTV.asp
- you will see that they state the use of their cameras and give a
link to a code of practise. Therefore Article 8 is unlikely to be
engaged.

This illustrates the difficulty of fighting cctv using the legisltion
that has built up around it. The legislation is carefully drafted to
protect big brother.

> > 2009/8/3 Mark Lizar <m...@smartspecies.com>:

>
> >> Hello All,
> >> I am starting to get really excited about this event, so excuse me  
> >> if I tend
> >> to get more and more verbose.
> >> This is an invitation to join the google group or pass this  
> >> invitation on to
> >> someone who may be interested. We agreed at the first CCTV Pilot  
> >> organising
> >> event yesterday that we use to be the main forum of communication  
> >> organizing
> >> the effort and research for this event.
> >> Please join this group, if you haven't already, in order to help  
> >> out and/or
> >> be kept up to date on this CCTV research pilot.  You can find this  
> >> google
> >> group here

> >>http://groups.google.com:80/group/barcamp-transparencyin the right  

> >> this material at  http://identitytrustcic.org/cctvPLEASE PROVIDE

[Mark Lizar]

Would the council not need to then reference the website on physical
CCTV signs so people can see this for this to be construed as not
being a violation of human rights.

[no-cctvuk]

Under data protection there should be signage.

The problem is that after 20 years of cctv in the uk they could argue
that the man in the street knows that cameras are for crime
prevention. The human rights angle gives the state so many "rights" to
abuse our article 8 rights.

There's a good article by Justice on Article 8 and cctv at
http://www.cctvusergroup.com/art.php?art=39
which goes along with Louis 's view about proportionality:
"The third test is that the restriction fulfils a pressing social need
and is proportionate in how it responds to that need. This means that
it cannot just be asserted that the interference is necessary to
protect public safety, for example; there has to be concrete evidence
that there is a genuine threat to public safety and this is an
appropriate way of responding."

The RIPA angle:
http://www.respect.gov.uk/article.aspx?id=10086#subsection121

Q: Is it legal to film people without their knowledge?

A: It is only legal to partake in covert surveillance if authority has
been given under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000.
[...]

On Aug 4, 5:18 pm, Mark Lizar <mark.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would the council not need to then reference the website on physical  
> CCTV signs so people can see this for this to be construed as not  
> being a violation of human rights.
>
> On 4 Aug 2009, at 15:52, no-cctvuk wrote:
>
>
>
> > It is very unlikely that you will be able to make a case that
> > Hammermith and Fulham are violating the Human Rights Act / convention
> > - this of course does not mean they are not violating human rights,
> > just that the Act/convention has so many get out clauses.
>
> > By refusing to give camera locations they are in breach of the
> > principles of the Freedom of Information / Data Protection acts and
> > possibly the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act.
>
> > If the use of the cameras/images was not clear then arguably Article 8
> > of the ECHR would be engaged but not necessarily breached. But if you
> > look at the Hammersmith and Fulham council website:

> >http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Directory/Business/Town_centre_management/CCTV...

> >>>>http://groups.google.com:80/group/barcamp-transparencyinthe right

[Brian Mooney]

Just a last reminder that Hammersmith & Fulham NO2ID are holding a
surveillance society event on Thursday 24/9 at the Hoop & Toy pub in S.
Kensington, 7.30 prompt start, upstairs function room open at 7.15pm.

I do hope that some of your group will join us and chat to our local
members - two good reasons for attending are
- the main topics are.... CCTV & ANPR.
- Charles Farrier from NO CCTV will be a speaker.

www.no2id-handf.org.uk/db240909.htm for fuller info

We would be quite interested to hear more about your project.

All the best
Brian
NO2ID (H&F)
also hamme...@no2id.net
07976 414913