BarCamp Bangkok 3

[Lancaster]

We would like to announce that the BarCamp Bangkok 3 will be held at Kasetsart University on Saturday January 24, 2009. For more information. Please visit http://barcamp.org/BarCampBangkok3 and we will update information in http://www.barcampbangkok.org soon.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Hi :)

lol .. i'm planning my 2nd NWA for January too :) .. hmmm .. might have to move mine :)

-- Bee

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

what is your username on barcampbangkok.org? i will grant you permission to modify.

[Lancaster]

lancaster krub :)

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

sorry, can't locate uid. can you give me your uid?

[Lancaster]

59

[proteus guy]

Somehow I missed the conversation that apparently went on about when & where the next BarCamp Bangkok would be held. Are we able to host it as an actual "camp" this time? Please post the details of what has been determined to the list.

  -- Ben Scherrey

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Lancaster <lanca...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

This time we may have real "camp" with "fire". Yes, overnight (outside building)! It's possible but please wait for them to confirm.

[Kirit Sælensminde]

2008/10/17 proteus guy <prote...@gmail.com>

Somehow I missed the conversation that apparently went on about when & where the next BarCamp Bangkok would be held. Are we able to host it as an actual "camp" this time? Please post the details of what has been determined to the list.

 

You're not the only one -- I was with jfx today idly talking about general time frames -- maybe January maybe February -- for the next BarCamp.

Is there some where else we should be monitoring to find out what's going on?

Lancaster, who is the organisational team behind this date? There are a lot of who have volunteered time and resources for previous ones and I'd kind of assumed that we would be kept in the loop before anything was announced as a fixed date and a fixed venue.


K

--
http://www.kirit.com/

[Patipat Susumpow]

cool.

camp with fire.

we're in.

--opendreamers :-P

["31o5" OHIRA]

real camp.... cool, let's make it happen :)

@31o5

--
http://31o5.com

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

It seems to be miscommunication here. A group of students from Kasetsart University proposed me last week to help organizing the next barcamp in Jan or Feb. So I asked them to propose possible date here in mailing list. Anyway, they worked too fast and information leaked in Twitter so the work order is a bit confusing.

All I know now is they have strong relationship with big brother in KU so it is possible to have real campfire at night. And the above date is not confirmed yet.

In fact, I think his english is a bit too straight and may lead all you to wonderland (like me).

sugree

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Kirit Sælensminde <kirit.sae...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Lancaster]

First of all, I would like to apologize for my english that lead to misunderstanding.

Like sugree said. We can help organizing the BarCamp at the Computer Engineering Department, Kasetsart University. It's possible to have the real "camp" but we want to make sure before confirm this.

-- Lancaster

[Aruj]

So we have to ask, "Is there any other choice?" and "If not, are you
ok to hold a camp at Kasetsart University?"

To me, for the first question, I remembered that P'Molecularck
mentioned about the place that we can stay overnight in a session of
the latest camp. I'm not sure where it is. Mr.Sugree, do you have any
information about that place? It maybe a good choice for us.

And to another question, I think Kasetsart University can be a great
place to hold the camp. We have all facilities that we need, for
example, Microphones, Projectors, Whiteboards, Air Conditioners, wide
area for lunch, car parks, DotA and alcoholic out side the university.
(:D) The only one disanvantage is that you can't go there on your feet
from BTS or MRT but take a bus isn't too hard.

Having a camp fire sounds fun but it isn't necessary. Working with
everyone is the real fun of the camp, I think.

So "Is there any other choice?" and "If not, are you OK to hold a camp
at Kasetsart University?"

On Oct 17, 11:48 pm, Lancaster <lancaste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> First of all, I would like to apologize for my english that lead to
> misunderstanding.
>
> Like sugree said. We can help organizing the BarCamp at the Computer
> Engineering Department, Kasetsart University. It's possible to have the real
> "camp" but we want to make sure before confirm this.
>
> -- Lancaster
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 23:02, Kirit Sælensminde <
>

> kirit.saelensmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2008/10/17 proteus guy <proteus...@gmail.com>

[tonsai...@googlemail.com]

last time we talked about KU as a venue. Some people mentioned it
would be too far so less ppl would attend. for me personally it is
okay. i don't think it will take me longer to get to KU compared to
the time i needed to get to chula venue, cause i lost the way each
time. but it would make sense to adress the biggest problem of bangkok
2 this time before choosing a venue, which is the after party venue
imho. we have been lucky to have roadhouse as a very large restaurant
close by. without roadhouse i think we could not have had a party.

so my suggestion before deciding a venue is to make sure there is a
place near that can accomodate enough people with okay prices.

[Julie Lavoie]

It sounds great to be able to camp overnight, but I think travelling far in Bangkok, especially without MRT/BTS is always a downside because of the traffic. I would also be worried that less people would attend because of the distance, and I think we want to make it convenient, not inconvient for people to attend barcamp. :-)

-Julie

[proteus guy]

Firstly - I have no objection to KU as a venue, especially if they will allow us to actually hold a proper camp which I believe really makes BarCamp 'BarCAMP'. I was just concerned that a decision had been made about location & date without a discussion and consultation on the mailling list. I'm glad it was only a misunderstanding. (btw - camp doesn't necessarily mean fire! that's not a requirement)

Secondly - We do need to figure out the best dates for the event. Any particular reason why those dates were offerred. I personally think Feb/Mar is better time frame as I think we should spread it out a bit to make them more unique. I think we should encourage smaller, more hands-on events inbetween.

Finally - I think the idea of Barcamp is to attract those who really live for this stuff. So the question of accessability is really not an issue to me so long as we intend to stay overnight. What's the big deal of it taking an hour or so to get somewhere if you're gonna stay for 36 hrs without leaving? You'll note that the level of participation on Day 2 of BarcampBKK 2 was a great deal higher as a percentage than Day 1. That's because the people who come for the full event are a lot more committed. This should be encouraged.

  -- Ben

[JFXBerns]

Just to clarify:

Lancaster was proposing a package: a date and a place. He was just
proposing it.

No date has been set.

No location has been chosen.

It's all still open for discussion and we don't have to rush, we are
still 3-4 months out from any practical date for the next barcamp.

Any ideas for a really cool location are welcome.

[Patipat Susumpow]

calm down, calm down..

:-)

[Isriya Paireepairit]

NECTEC Scipark campus is other choice.

It's quite big with plenty of meeting rooms with comprehensive
peripherals. Definitely Wi-Fi coverage, space to hanging out. They had
already held several nightcamps (CodeFest for 30-50 people/one room).
If we know the right person inside NECTEC, we might got free meal and
NECTEC staff to take care us (I once went to CodeFest, which is NECTEC
event, it has everything prepared).

I can think 3 disadvantage:
- Alcohol shouldn't be allowed since it's government building
- If you're addicted to pub or whatever for music and party, there is
none inside the border (but for knightcamp, we don't need it anyway,
right?)
- It's very far from central Bangkok. I saw many complaints for
proposing KU (which actually is in central Bangkok) and I think I will
see more complaints if we go for NECTEC.

Anyway, I agree Ben's word that the range might be a screening tool
for those who really want to go BarCamp. If you want to go, it's no
matter where. If you are complaining type, you will complain for
everywhere.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

I like big bomb. It spreads so fast ;)

Anyway, as I mentioned above, nothing confirmed. Officially, we can't stay overnight but we can make it legal. There are many approaches and I think aftermath party is very important.

Sadly, I suppose to be super busy in January and February in hospital or else my baby may born in barcamp instead.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

advantage for somewhere so far away: anyone came here will not go back easily.

[Aruj]

Congratulation to a new father na krub. :D :D

I have a question. Who is the one taking care of money last time? What
kind of receipt for the sponsor is? I've just known that if the
receipt is given by the government organization, as KU or CU, the
sponsor can use it to reduce the tax for 200%. For example, if a
sponsor give us 10,000 baht, he can use that bill to reduce his
company's tax for 20,000 baht. Just a suggestion to you all.

Back to our main topic, going to Kasetsart isn't hard. Just take a bus
from BTS or MRT for 15-30 minutes. So I think there is no problem
about range.

About the date, I agree with January / March. Because February is the
month of final examination - maybe first and second week of March are
too. And January, the month after midterm exam, is OK. Just a comment
from a student. :D

To P'Isriya krub, is there any more information about Sci-Park? The
address, the web site, etc. so we can make decision more cleary.

And to Khun Lancaster too, please post more information about KU here
for someone who doesn't know it. :D

Thank you.

On Oct 20, 12:41 am, "Sugree Phatanapherom" <sug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> advantage for somewhere so far away: anyone came here will not go back
> easily.
>

[Isriya Paireepairit]

>
> To P'Isriya krub, is there any more information about Sci-Park? The
> address, the web site, etc. so we can make decision more cleary.

Scipark is NECTEC's head quarter. Next to TU Rangrit Campus. See
nectec.or.th or nstda.or.th

It's better to ask opinion from someone else who have ever been TU Rangsit.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Another suggestion is karaoke rooms. We may use all karaoke rooms at day time for barcamp. The environment will be very relax. And all rooms have lcd and microphone.

["31o5" OHIRA]

karaoke.... but each room is not big enough... i think.

31o5

--
http://31o5.com

[Patipat Susumpow]

Big Karaoke and Pub http://www.theimmortalpub.com/

keng.

[Julie Lavoie]

If we hold at karaoke place, then we *have* to play a game called "power point karaoke". They have this at many Barcamps. :-)

It's like karaoke, except with presentations. Someone gives you a set of random slides (you don't know ahead of time what they will be about), and you have to make up a presentation on the spot , as you go along!

Ok, I know what I will do for the next Barcamp. :-)

-j

[JFXBerns]

> > NECTEC Scipark campus is other choice.

Sound interesting. I want to see it!

> - Alcohol shouldn't be allowed since it's government building

Maybe the will allow us to have outdoor party? That could be fun!

> - If you're addicted to pub or whatever for music and party, there is
> none inside the border (but for knightcamp, we don't need it anyway,
> right?)

Barcamp without beer. Hmmm. Never been done before. I don't know if
can do. ;-)

> - It's very far from central Bangkok. I saw many complaints for
> proposing KU (which actually is in central Bangkok) and I think I will
> see more complaints if we go for NECTEC.

But if it's a cool place where people can stay overnight easy--then
it's like a holiday and travel is not so hard.

> advantage for somewhere so far away: anyone came here will not go back
> easily.

Good point!

We have some people that are connected to NECTEC, I am sure we can
find somebody that can be our Champion there.

[Lancaster]

FYI about KU

- Plenty of room ( 7-10 ) but spread in several floors (not too far, can goes by stairs)
- Projector + Microphone + Air Conditioner in every room
- Wireless LAN and electrical plug enough for everyone
- Go to the venue by taking Taxi or Bus from BTS/MRT. I'm sure is KU is much easier to go than The Immortal Pub or Scipark :P
- Kaset Fair is on Jan 31 to Feb 7. In that time, there is heavy traffic and people. So it's uncomfortable to held the camp in this time. After that, students are start prepare for the Final Exam. So the best time for most student are from new year to 3rd week of Jan.
- Staying overnight is possible.
- No alcohol in the university
- And the campfire may be.

Lancaster.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

photo would be cool.

[Lancaster]

Affirmative! I will take photos tomorrow.

[Nick Martin]

Bah I wanna go. Oh well soon I hope.

[Lancaster]

Here it is, photos of CPE Building at Kasetsart University
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ploysics/sets/72157608266834225/

[tr]

Karaoke:
I think we'd have to reserve at least 3-4 large rooms at a decent
karaoke, and it costs loads.
But great idea anyway, I always want to see drunk farangs and drunk
thais singing together :D

NECTEC/Sci Park:
At sci park, there are pubs outside TU gate, but it means walking
across the whole campus to get some alcohol beverages.
Traveling here is rather easy though, there's a decent NGV van service
at BTS Mo Chit that will take us here to the front step of NECTEC, and
the best thing is that it costs 30 baht/person only.

KU:
The closet way to get to KU is BTS Mochit and then Taxi, it costs
around 60 baht or so, the traffic isn't that horrible (take the
Viphavadi route though, the Phaholyothin route is a constant
nightmare)
And it'd be awesome if we could have a *camp fire* :D

Date:
January is awesome. February is Chula's final exam. And until mid-
March, it is Thammasat's final exam.


Just my 2 satangs though :)

On Oct 20, 10:25 pm, "Sugree Phatanapherom" <sug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another suggestion is karaoke rooms. We may use all karaoke rooms at day
> time for barcamp. The environment will be very relax. And all rooms have lcd
> and microphone.
>

[LewCPE]

Scipark will be definitely too far for many people. A little bit far
would be a good filter for those who want to participate but I think
Scipark isn't a reasonable range. I vote for KU which we could booking
the Bai Mai Ra Rehung restuarant for the night party.

BTW, I don't sure how many choices do we really have right now.

[Jittat]

> KU:
> The closet way to get to KU is BTS Mochit and then Taxi, it costs
> around 60 baht or so, the traffic isn't that horrible (take the
> Viphavadi route though, the Phaholyothin route is a constant
> nightmare)
> And it'd be awesome if we could have a *camp fire* :D

If you don't mind, there are quite a few public bus line to KU.
It shouldn't cost that much.
-jittat

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

for Science Park / Thammasat / AIT campuses:
(these three places are in the same area)

General info:
http://www.sciencepark.or.th/
http://www.tu.ac.th/ and http://www.tpm.tu.ac.th/
http://www.ait.ac.th/

Transportation:
by car, a little over an hour, from Victory Monument
by bus, No. 29, 39, 504, 510
by van, 40 mins, from BTS Mo Chit station

going within Thammasat campus and nearby Science Park
area is quite convenient with shuttle bus.

Playground:
venues of talk could be meeting rooms/halls in Science Park
or function rooms of Thammasat/AIT students club.

Beds:
as these three orgs share many facilities,
no matter where we have talks, beds are in proximity.

as Isirya mentioned, NECTEC used to hosted an overnight CodeFest in
Science Park.
the size of participants is around 50 people.

for size of 200+,
Thammasat Hall of Residence would be possible,
especially in school break time - late March.
contact Thammasat Property Management Office http://www.tpm.tu.ac.th/

AIT also has its campus hotel (more flexible, but more expensive).

other options, plently of private dormitories around,
some of them offer overnight stay option.

Drinks:
some in AIT campus, some near Thammasat campus.
it's more toward Thai university students style.
nothing like the Roadhouse or Indus, afaik.

fyi,
@celerachan live/work in the Science Park
@tewson @thanr @idiotao @cholwich is in Thammasat campus
@moui can contact AIT people

after all, while i'm very happy having BarCamp in
the (any) campus, attracting the youngs.
my feeling is strongly against anything to put BarCamp
into a classroom passive non-casual non-participating non-peer atmosphere.

cheers,
art

--
http://twitter.com/bact

[tonsai...@googlemail.com]

> BTW, I don't sure how many choices do we really have right now.

we have not really started to plan at this stage. But i guess we could
find many choices for places.

[Hans Henderson]

-1 on so far from downtown, I think it'll really affect numbers, more
than just screening casuals. People near the town center will resist
going out so far, while people who already live out of town are used
to coming in. KU seems reasonable, anywhere within a 30-min/100 baht
taxi ride from BTS/BMT would be ideal.

I haven't been there, but isn't there supposed to be a big IT learning
environment somewhere in (whatever they call what used to be the)
World Trade center?

How about the showcase space right in the middle of Pantip's ground
floor? Now THAT would get a big crowd attending :)

On Oct 23, 10:20 pm, "Arthit Suriyawongkul" <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> for Science Park / Thammasat / AIT campuses:
> (these three places are in the same area)
>

> General info:http://www.sciencepark.or.th/http://www.tu.ac.th/ and  http://www.tpm.tu.ac.th/http://www.ait.ac.th/

>
> Transportation:
> by car, a little over an hour, from Victory Monument
> by bus, No. 29, 39, 504, 510
> by van, 40 mins, from BTS Mo Chit station
>
> going within Thammasat campus and nearby Science Park
> area is quite convenient with shuttle bus.
>
> Playground:
> venues of talk could be meeting rooms/halls in Science Park
> or function rooms of Thammasat/AIT students club.
>
> Beds:
> as these three orgs share many facilities,
> no matter where we have talks, beds are in proximity.
>
> as Isirya mentioned, NECTEC used to hosted an overnight CodeFest in
> Science Park.
> the size of participants is around 50 people.
>
> for size of 200+,
> Thammasat Hall of Residence would be possible,
> especially in school break time - late March.

> contact Thammasat Property Management Officehttp://www.tpm.tu.ac.th/

[proteus guy]

I'd personally like to separate the Barcamps a bit further apart but it seems Feb & Mar are very difficult due to school schedules and I think Apr may be a bit too long to wait (although I could - but it seems people want to do one sooner). I feel its important for people to get a chance to try some new things (hopefully things they were introduced to at Barcamp) so that they have something interesting and new to discuss at the next one. So I guess it comes down to January or April (possibly late March I suppose). If January, it would need to be late Jan for me to attend because I will likely be in the states at least through mid-Jan.

As far as locations, KU really does seem quite promising to me so long as we can definitely stay overnight on the campus. Looks like another great venue and hopefully a good source of volunteers as competant as the wonderful ones we got at Chula!

  -- Ben

[molecularck]

I suggest http://www.bangkokcode.com/. It' s  a school of architecture and design of KMUTT, it has a exhibition hall 2 room and 6 class rooms.


Gallery
Gallery 01, a small 64 Sq.M. space, with glass windows in the front building, is superb for a small exhibition while Gallery 02, a 166 Sq.M. hall located in the back building, can be used as a theater, exhibition, training or seminar venue.


Classroom
Various types of classrooms for different sizes of classes and activities, from a small group of 6 to a big group of 60.
*Computer room for 20 is also available


Library
Self learning area for everyone. Regularly updated books and magazines from local to international publications can be found with the Living Learning concept. At Code, you can read, you can work and you can drink. Forget the library, it's not what you think. Member can access to computer workstation while wireless access is FREE


Incubator unit
Small size incubator unit for creative and technology business start-ups from 20 Sq.M. (450 THB/Sq.M.)


Business center
No need to invest in office automation. The business center is equipped with various types of printers from A4 to A0 large format print out, copy machine, fax and meeting room. Our support system lets an incubator unit do business fuss-free.


Coffee corner & Restaurants
Living Learning will not be complete without good coffee and good food. A premium coffee corner is located right next to the library where you can drink and read. Joke Me Please, a small Chinese restaurant, is located in front of the building along with our new food court in the same area.

at price and room picture are in the attachment files.

[Lancaster]

I forgot to mention one thing. There is no cost for helding BarCamp at KU.

[LewCPE]

That's cool! I'd love it if BarCamp will be held at KMUTT, so close to
my home. Anyway, KMUTT share the same weakness as others goverment's
building (no alcohol). And it's likely to not so close for many people
out there. Then why should we pay for it?

On Oct 24, 5:19 pm, molecularck <molecula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suggesthttp://www.bangkokcode.com/. It' s  a school of architecture and

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[molecularck]

To @lewcpe

The CODE  is place around Surasak BTS station and I don't know the rule of this place, may be I will ask for it. Although we can talk to KMUTT to be our sponsor for the CODE .

Contact:

Collaborative Development {code}

KMUTT City Center

231/2 South Sathorn Road, Yannawa, Sathorn, Bangkok 10120 Thailand

BTS
Surasak BTS Station (Silom Line)

phone
66.2.470.9920-1

fax
66.2.673.9433

e mail
bangk...@hotmail.com

2008/10/24 molecularck <molec...@gmail.com>

[molecularck]

Again!!!

Sorry for my miss explaination. This place is not SoA+D but it calls bangkok CODE or Bangkok Collaborative Development. This place is at Surasak BTS station.

2008/10/24 molecularck <molec...@gmail.com>

[JFXBerns]

DUDE!

CODE @ KMUTT looks like a REALLY COOL place for a Barcamp!

I suggest we head there next week and check it out!

Now that's the kind of place I see having a Barcamp at--lots of cool
places to hang out and for creative things to happen.

AWESOME FIND Moleculark!

[Patipat Susumpow]

CODE is not allow us to stay overnight for sure.

Does Cheng on the list? He and his friends did a junior programmer camp and all of them were stayed at KMUTT campus somewhere.

Keng

[tonsai...@googlemail.com]

that place looks amazing.
we should really try to get it. we can not do any better.
that place seems to be 100% made for barcamp and i bet we can find
solution not to pay for it.
as for alcohol:
the first two barcamps we never drank at the venue. so i don't see any
problem with that.
think it's better to drink in a second place.

On 24 Okt., 18:05, molecularck <molecula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again!!!
>
> Sorry for my miss explaination. This place is not SoA+D but it calls bangkok
> CODE or Bangkok Collaborative Development. This place is at Surasak BTS
> station.
>

> 2008/10/24 molecularck <molecula...@gmail.com>

>
> > To @lewcpe
>
> > The CODE  is place around Surasak BTS station and I don't know the rule of
> > this place, may be I will ask for it. Although we can talk to KMUTT to be
> > our sponsor for the CODE .
>
> > Contact:
>
> > Collaborative Development {code}
>
> > KMUTT City Center
>
> > 231/2 South Sathorn Road, Yannawa, Sathorn, Bangkok 10120 Thailand
>
> > BTS
> > Surasak BTS Station (Silom Line)
>
> > phone
> > 66.2.470.9920-1
>
> > fax
> > 66.2.673.9433
>
> > e mail

> > bangkokc...@hotmail.com
>
> > 2008/10/24 molecularck <molecula...@gmail.com>
>
> > I suggesthttp://www.bangkokcode.com/. It' s  a school of architecture and

[molecularck]

@kengggg

I think the junior programmer camp was hold at bangkuntien campus of kmutt.

2008/10/24 molecularck <molec...@gmail.com>

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Bangkuntien is too hard to go. CODE looks good. I used to pass that road 2 times. God damn traffic jam. BTS only.

[LewCPE]

Hmm.. Ok I confused it with KMUTT at Bangmod. This is cool and will be
very cool if we could stay there overnight.

On Oct 24, 5:49 pm, molecularck <molecula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To @lewcpe
>
> The CODE  is place around Surasak BTS station and I don't know the rule of
> this place, may be I will ask for it. Although we can talk to KMUTT to be
> our sponsor for the CODE .
>
> Contact:
>
> Collaborative Development {code}
>
> KMUTT City Center
>
> 231/2 South Sathorn Road, Yannawa, Sathorn, Bangkok 10120 Thailand
>
> BTS
> Surasak BTS Station (Silom Line)
>
> phone
> 66.2.470.9920-1
>
> fax
> 66.2.673.9433
>
> e mail

> bangkokc...@hotmail.com
>
> 2008/10/24 molecularck <molecula...@gmail.com>
>
> > I suggesthttp://www.bangkokcode.com/. It' s  a school of architecture and

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Any deadline to vote or discussion?

[Hans Henderson]

>God damn traffic jam. BTS only.

Or express ferry boat for people that live near the river, not too far
to walk from Sathorn pier, or just one BTS stop from Saphan Taksin.

[Patipat Susumpow]

I do purpose March 14-15, 2009 for BB3

keng.
---
http://twitter.com/kengggg

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

How many estimated participants this time? 500? 600? 700?

[Aruj]

As many as possible. I think that we need to let everyone get involve
in BarCamp much more than the last time.

To me 500 is a good number. 300+ from the last camp and 150-200 new
comers.

On Nov 9, 10:35 pm, "Sugree Phatanapherom" <sug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How many estimated participants this time? 500? 600? 700?
>

> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Patipat Susumpow <keng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I do purpose March 14-15, 2009 for BB3
>
> > keng.
> > ---
> >http://twitter.com/kengggg
>

> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Lancaster <lancaste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I forgot to mention one thing. There is *no cost* for helding BarCamp at
> >> KU.

>
> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 16:20, Lancaster <lancaste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Here it is, photos of CPE Building at Kasetsart University
> >>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ploysics/sets/72157608266834225/
>

> >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:48, Nick Martin <boozka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Bah I wanna go. Oh well soon I hope.
>

> >>>> On 21 Oct 2008, at 16:49, Lancaster <lancaste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Affirmative! I will take photos tomorrow.
>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 22:42, Sugree Phatanapherom <<sug...@gmail.com>
> >>>> sug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> photo would be cool.
>

> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Lancaster < <lancaste...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> lancaste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> FYI about KU
>
> >>>>>> - Plenty of room ( 7-10 ) but spread in several floors (not too far,
> >>>>>> can goes by stairs)
> >>>>>> - Projector + Microphone + Air Conditioner in every room
> >>>>>> - Wireless LAN and electrical plug enough for everyone
> >>>>>> - Go to the venue by taking Taxi or Bus from BTS/MRT. I'm sure is KU
> >>>>>> is much easier to go than The Immortal Pub or Scipark :P
> >>>>>> - Kaset Fair is on Jan 31 to Feb 7. In that time, there is heavy
> >>>>>> traffic and people. So it's uncomfortable to held the camp in this time.
> >>>>>> After that, students are start prepare for the Final Exam. So the best time
> >>>>>> for most student are from new year to 3rd week of Jan.
> >>>>>> - Staying overnight is possible.
> >>>>>> - No alcohol in the university
> >>>>>> - And the campfire may be.
>
> >>>>>> Lancaster.
>

> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 23:20, Patipat Susumpow < <keng...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> keng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Big Karaoke and Pub <http://www.theimmortalpub.com/>
> >>>>>>>http://www.theimmortalpub.com/
>
> >>>>>>> keng.
>

> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, 31o5 OHIRA <<3105.oh...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> 3105.oh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> > karaoke.... but each room is not big enough... i think.
>
> >>>>>>> > 31o5
>
> >>>>>>> > On 10/20/08, Sugree Phatanapherom < <sug...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> sug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> Another suggestion is karaoke rooms. We may use all karaoke rooms
> >>>>>>> at day
> >>>>>>> >> time for barcamp. The environment will be very relax. And all
> >>>>>>> rooms have lcd
> >>>>>>> >> and microphone.
>

> >>>>>>> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Isriya Paireepairit <<markp...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> markp...@gmail.com>

> >>>>>>> >> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> >> > > To P'Isriya krub, is there any more information about
> >>>>>>> Sci-Park? The
> >>>>>>> >> > > address, the web site, etc. so we can make decision more
> >>>>>>> cleary.
>
> >>>>>>> >> > Scipark is NECTEC's head quarter. Next to TU Rangrit Campus. See
> >>>>>>> >> > nectec.or.th or nstda.or.th
>
> >>>>>>> >> > It's better to ask opinion from someone else who have ever been
> >>>>>>> TU
> >>>>>>> >> Rangsit.
>
> >>>>>>> > --

> >>>>>>> > <http://31o5.com>http://31o5.com

[Patipat Susumpow]

the last barcamp was 400 peroid.

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["31o5" OHIRA]

People I met at #BarcampJB keep asking me when is the next Barcamp Bangkok.

Jan - bit too late to organize everything by then, and some people won't get back to thailand till mid of Jan.
Feb - Exams
March - Exams in first 2 weeks or so?

Maybe late in March or April?

I told people i met at BarcampJB that BarcampBangkok2 was awesome, invited them to next Barcamp Bangkok :)
let's make it happen.

btw, BarcampKL will be on March, too - someone from KL told me so.


-- 31o5

[Patipat Susumpow]

Satoko,

Most of exams are finish by the first week of March, late Feb actually, so mid or late of March is fine.

Keng.

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[Daniel CerVentus]

I told you about it.

Lets coordinate the dates as I want to be in bangkok

--
Daniel CerVentus
Malaysia Entrepreneurs
http://www.entrepreneurs.my
===============================

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

It would be easier to reorder the action.

1. fix the date
2. find the place

[JFXBerns]

Mid-March sounds perfect.

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

So next step is to find the venue free for us during mid-March. If anyone knows good place, please don't hesitate to propose.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:25 PM, JFXBerns <jfxb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mid-March sounds perfect.

[31o5.OHIRA]

@winggundamth told me his campus is good for barcamp. king something univ of twchnology

satoko OHIRA

[Chip]

I'm looking for BarCamp BKK :) Will be there.

2008/12/27 31o5.OHIRA <3105....@gmail.com>

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--------
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[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM, 31o5 OHIRA <3105....@gmail.com> wrote:
> People I met at #BarcampJB keep asking me when is the next Barcamp Bangkok.

> [...]

> I told people i met at BarcampJB that BarcampBangkok2 was awesome, invited
> them to next Barcamp Bangkok :)
> let's make it happen.
>
> btw, BarcampKL will be on March, too - someone from KL told me so.

I see ASEAN community not so far away .. by hands of the people, bottom-up :)

--
"ไม่ดีแน่ๆ ที่ประเทศใด จะหลอกตนเองด้วยประวัติศาสตร์แบบเทพนิยายปรัมปรา"
http://bit.ly/Nw0R

["31o5" OHIRA]

weekends in march...

7-8  ... sounds like some still have exams on this weekend
14-15
21-22
28-29

4 April - BarcampKL

the only thing we have to consider in March is exams?
for me... anytime :D

-- 31o5

2008/12/29 Arthit Suriyawongkul <art...@gmail.com>

[Patipat Susumpow]

21-22 seems fine, not too close to Songkarn on April, not too close to last day of final exams.

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[Daniel CerVentus]

cool

2009/1/8 Patipat Susumpow <ken...@gmail.com>

[Chip]

Gonna book my ticket to BKK on 21-22 March.

2009/1/8 Daniel CerVentus <ideap...@gmail.com>

["31o5" OHIRA]

wait chip, not confirmed yet....


-- 31o5

2009/1/8 Chip <ch...@huyenchip.com>

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

So the next step is finding venue available on 21-22 March.

2009/1/8 31o5 OHIRA <3105....@gmail.com>

["31o5" OHIRA]

is 21-22 ok for everybody? still have 2 months, everybody must be able to arrange the schedule :D

-- 31o5

2009/1/8 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>

[celerachan]

21-22 march look fine. i will have a long time for prepare myself. :-)
where? KU or CODE

@celerachan

On Jan 8, 12:25 pm, "\"31o5\" OHIRA" <3105.oh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is 21-22 ok for everybody? still have 2 months, everybody must be able to
> arrange the schedule :D
>
> -- 31o5
>
> 2009/1/8 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>
>
> > So the next step is finding venue available on 21-22 March.
>

> > 2009/1/8 31o5 OHIRA <3105.oh...@gmail.com>

>
> > wait chip, not confirmed yet....
>
> >> -- 31o5
>

> >> 2009/1/8 Chip <c...@huyenchip.com>

>
> >> Gonna book my ticket to BKK on 21-22 March.
>

> >>> 2009/1/8 Daniel CerVentus <ideapren...@gmail.com>
>
> >>> cool
>
> >>>> 2009/1/8 Patipat Susumpow <keng...@gmail.com>

>
> >>>>> 21-22 seems fine, not too close to Songkarn on April, not too close to
> >>>>> last day of final exams.
>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>http://twitter.com/kengggg
>

> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:19 AM, 31o5 OHIRA <3105.oh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>> weekends in march...
>
> >>>>>> 7-8  ... sounds like some still have exams on this weekend
> >>>>>> 14-15
> >>>>>> 21-22
> >>>>>> 28-29
>
> >>>>>> 4 April - BarcampKL
>
> >>>>>> the only thing we have to consider in March is exams?
> >>>>>> for me... anytime :D
>
> >>>>>> -- 31o5
>
> >>>>>> 2008/12/29 Arthit Suriyawongkul <art...@gmail.com>
>

> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM, 31o5 OHIRA <3105.oh...@gmail.com>

> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> > People I met at #BarcampJB keep asking me when is the next Barcamp
> >>>>>>> Bangkok.
> >>>>>>> > [...]
> >>>>>>> > I told people i met at BarcampJB that BarcampBangkok2 was awesome,
> >>>>>>> invited
> >>>>>>> > them to next Barcamp Bangkok :)
> >>>>>>> > let's make it happen.
>
> >>>>>>> > btw, BarcampKL will be on March, too - someone from KL told me so.
>
> >>>>>>> I see ASEAN community not so far away .. by hands of the people,
> >>>>>>> bottom-up :)
>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> "ไม่ดีแน่ๆ ที่ประเทศใด
> >>>>>>> จะหลอกตนเองด้วยประวัติศาสตร์แบบเทพนิยายปรัมปรา"
> >>>>>>>http://bit.ly/Nw0R
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Daniel CerVentus
> >>>> Malaysia Entrepreneurs
> >>>>http://www.entrepreneurs.my
> >>>> ===============================
>
> >>> --
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> --------

> >>> Email: c...@huyenchip.com

["31o5" OHIRA]

@molek and some more went to check CODE, didn't you? How was there? The problem is we have to pay for the venue if we have it in CODE...

KU?
KMITT?

--
-- 31o5

[JFXBerns]

21-22 March is the tentative date!

Let's try to find a nice place.

Moleck said CODE wasn't nice. KU is OK--but not ideal. We have some
other ideas--anybody want to suggest?

[31o5.OHIRA]

KMITT?
there must be many college campus, students must know well.



satoko OHIRA

[Patipat Susumpow]

Chula?

To be hornest, Chula is not the best choice, but good one. Transportation is 1st priority IMO.


---
http://twitter.com/kengggg

["31o5" OHIRA]

but we can't stay over night at chula...

if people would stay over night, it can be bit far - saw discussion about this, Ben mentioned, i think.

-- 31o5

[proteus guy]

YES - I think its more important to have a site we can barCAMP at than it is to have something with tons of people or even super convenient location-wise. People are who are truly interested in participating and getting the most out of barcamp will find transportation since they only gotta make the trip twice in a 48hr period.

  Just my opinion...

   -- Ben

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Environment at CODE is not that good.

2009/1/8 31o5 OHIRA <3105....@gmail.com>

[Arthit Suriyawongkul]

good facility, excellent transportation and can stay over nights:

Suvanabhumi Airport, .. anyone ?

(good food and music as well, ahem)

[31o5.OHIRA]

need shower, this is the reason I didn't stay overnight at BarcampJB...

satoko OHIRA


On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:15, "Arthit Suriyawongkul" <art...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[31o5.OHIRA]

@winggundamth suggested his campus.



satoko OHIRA

[Daniel CerVentus]

will keep in factor for the next barcamp in kl

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

KU has at least 2 showers.

[31o5.OHIRA]

his campus is KMITT

satoko OHIRA

[Patipat Susumpow]

How about KMUTT bangkhuntien campus?


Sent from my iPhone

On 11 ม.ค. 2009, at 17:22, "31o5.OHIRA" <3105....@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Bangkhuntien? Are you sure? It's death-end. No way out. Anyway, it's perfect for overnight. Just 20 mins to my home. lol.

Repeat again. No way out. You must be there overnight.

[Patipat Susumpow]

Nobody cares about no way out, cuz it's overnight barcamp!

Any you, sugree, even it's 20 mind from your home, there's no way out for you too!

Sent from my iPhone

[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Repeat again. No way to go out at night even by walking. It's too dangerous I'm not talking about human, I mean cobra, king cobra, boa or even python.

No ruby ;)

[Patipat Susumpow]

As long as those creatures are not going to attact us at the camp site, I'm ok. 

Hey, do cobra, king cobra and boa bite vehicle's wheel?

Sent from my iPhone

[proteus guy]

Hmm... am I sensing a "python" theme to this BarcampBKK?!?!? :)

  -- Ben

2009/1/11 Sugree Phatanapherom <sug...@gmail.com>

[J. Tim Denny]

long time lurker here...

my personal thought is that you choose a location as convenient as the budget allows...  for those of us who rely on public transportation (and in fact we all should use public transport)...  it does not make sense if the place is too far...  yes  some people will want to overnight.. that is lots of fun for some... but for others it makes more sense to join in for 5 or 6 hours then go off to take care of other things... 

I do not know the profile of the attendees of the last barcamp at Chula... but surely it seems that  was a location that was fairly accessible to all...  might be that the central location meant many more people could make it there over an inaccessible location...  

being that I live 150km out of Bangkok on the eastern seaboard I know that my personal ability to make it will depend on it being in a location that doesn't eat up all my time... there is nothing worse than being stuck in traffic for endless hours...

just my 2 baht here..

Cheers
Tim


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[Sugree Phatanapherom]

Sometimes they just lay down on the road... Please do not disturb. They are too full and moving slowly.

[Aruj]

So we have to choose -- 'easy to go' or 'stay overnight'. No one
suggests a place that qualifies both requirements at the same time.
Remember that we "NEED" alcohols too. :D

Another way to get more choices is to think of the places with cost,
for example, hotels, guest houses, someones' offices, etc. But there
is still problems about accommodation's cost for 300-500 people which
could be reduced if no one wants to sleep at all or can sleep in
sleeping bag at the same rooms we have the conferences. So people who
wants to stay overnight can stay there, and the ones who want to go
back home can go easily. (If this place is in the center of town and
we have enough money.) But I think it is still hard to find a place
like this as the offices or hotels (they don't allow us to stay
overnight in the rooms) or even guest houses (that can have 300-500
people stay in the same one.)

So if some of you read the upper paragraph and can think of the place
with those requirements, please inform. No need to worry about cost,
we have to talk about it for sure. 555

But my suggestion is this :
- If you want more people to join barcamp, find a place that can go
easily. This will make people know more about the camps and our
community.
- If you want less people with closer relationship, stay overnight.
This will let us to get to know more about each others.

That's all. By the way, we don't have just 2 barcamps. What we don't
do in this time may be done in next time. So please try to discuss
harder. We need brainstorming. :D

And KU guys, I still want to hear more about the feasibility of using
KU. :D

On Jan 12, 12:47 am, "J. Tim Denny" <johnde...@alumni.usc.edu> wrote:
> long time lurker here...
>
> my personal thought is that you choose a location as convenient as the
> budget allows...  for those of us who rely on public transportation (and in
> fact we all should use public transport)...  it does not make sense if the
> place is too far...  yes  some people will want to overnight.. that is lots
> of fun for some... but for others it makes more sense to join in for 5 or 6
> hours then go off to take care of other things...
>
> I do not know the profile of the attendees of the last barcamp at Chula...
> but surely it seems that  was a location that was fairly accessible to
> all...  might be that the central location meant many more people could make
> it there over an inaccessible location...
>
> being that I live 150km out of Bangkok on the eastern seaboard I know that
> my personal ability to make it will depend on it being in a location that
> doesn't eat up all my time... there is nothing worse than being stuck in
> traffic for endless hours...
>
> just my 2 baht here..
>
> Cheers
> Tim
>
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>

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Patipat Susumpow <keng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nobody cares about no way out, cuz it's overnight barcamp!
>
> > Any you, sugree, even it's 20 mind from your home, there's no way out for
> > you too!
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 11 ม.ค. 2009, at 18:27, "Sugree Phatanapherom" <sug...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > Bangkhuntien? Are you sure? It's death-end. No way out. Anyway, it's
> > perfect for overnight. Just 20 mins to my home. lol.
>
> > Repeat again. No way out. You must be there overnight.
>

> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Patipat Susumpow < <keng...@gmail.com>
> > keng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> How about KMUTT bangkhuntien campus?
>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
>

> >> On 11 ม.ค. 2009, at 17:22, "31o5.OHIRA" < <3105.oh...@gmail.com>
> >> 3105.oh...@gmail.com>

> >> wrote:
>
> >> > his campus is KMITT
>
> >> > satoko OHIRA
>

> >> > On Jan 11, 2009, at 15:25, "31o5.OHIRA" < <3105.oh...@gmail.com>

> >> 3105.oh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> @winggundamth suggested his campus.
>
> >> >> satoko OHIRA
>

> >> >> On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:32, "31o5.OHIRA" < <3105.oh...@gmail.com>

[Patipat Susumpow]

Aruj,

I think we should try overnight barcamp this time, the 3rd one without staying overnight is not fun anymore.

Could anybody check about KMUTT Bangkhuntien?

Keng.

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[celerachan]

KMUTT Bangkhuntien have bed and shower, it can stay overnight.
i used to stay overnight at there, it's comfortable. But i think it
hard to go there on Saturday and back on sunday. Because it's no van
from KMUTT.

@celerachan

On Jan 12, 5:45 pm, "Patipat Susumpow" <keng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aruj,
>
> I think we should try overnight barcamp this time, the 3rd one without
> staying overnight is not fun anymore.
>
> Could anybody check about KMUTT Bangkhuntien?
>
> Keng.
>

> ---http://twitter.com/kengggg

[Aruj]

And here you can search for the place that can reduce tax for 2 for
each 1 you pay as a sponsorship for them. http://www.rd.go.th/publish/28654.0.html

You can see that many universities are in this program. So
universities have advantages in this point but is still stuck with the
'overnight' problem.

BTW, if we can manage the money good enough, the sponsors will be
happy with reduced tax too. This is all I want to say. Thank you. :D