CAT - Jurisdiction

[Prasad C N]

Dear friends,

The objective of the The Administrative Tribunal Act, 1985 is as under :

An Act to provide for the adjudication or trial by Administrative Tribunals of disputes and complaints with respect to recruitment and conditions of service of persons appointed to public services and posts in connection with the affairs of the Union or of any State or of any local or other authority within the territory of India or under the control of the Government of India or of [any corporation or society owned or controlled by the Government in pursuance of Article 323A of the Constitution] and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.

 

Banks and other PSUs do not come under purview of CAT, as these Banks are not under the control of Government of India. 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

[Mohan badi]

Dear Sir Prasadji,

I have noted your above contents about ATA 1985. I can't explain you properly, but request you to kindly see the case of Corporation Bank,v/s its Branch Manager of its Rajajinagar Branch, where in CAT had  been asked  to interven by the Corporation Bank Management, to look into the affairs of branch Manager. It was as regards some loan and advance to some parties. and he was punished. I do remember, as I have stated the case of my bank too, which I have narrated you over here earlier.. Further CAT's order was set aside by High Court in case of Corpn.Bank to give justice to that Branch Manager.I will read again and and soon back to you Sir.Because I was asked by CAT to attend in Delhi, in case of my Bank Manager in 1994. Hence I said we all too, affected retirees, also can take the help of CAT to resolve our cases too.I am sorry but fact. I have proof for that. I will show you in person. All TA Bill was also paid by Bank to me, in Bombay I have some papers I will show you Sir. Please do not mistake me. I am here just saying so and so &so  happened in case of CAT nothing else.With regards.
Trust worthy yours,
M.R.Badi
Bangalore.

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[Raghavan K]

If Banks are not under the control of Govt of India, why do they and IBA go to Finanace Ministry, RBI etc for approval of anything and everything cocerning the banks.Even  wage settlements entered into by IBA and Unions, are approved only after thr nod from Finance Ministry is received,I undrstand that when SBI has informed that burden of increased gratuity for retirees before May 2010 can be borne by them it is the Finance Ministry that has objected.

 

Can't we cite all these and argue that PSU banks are in deed come under Govt control.

 

K Raghavan,"Deepam",11 Millennium Nagar,Koduvathara Road,Padivattom,PO Edapally,Cochin-682024.Phone 0484 2345367,Mobile 9446801259.

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Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011, 21:55

Subject: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

[karunakaran duraisamy]

Dear Friends,

THE CAT IS AWAY AND THAT IS WHY THE RATS ARE PLAYING IN THE BANKS.

KARUNAKARAN IBSVRS 2001

[sureshbhat M]

Dear Prasad Sir

     I surprise to read that "Banks are not under the control of Government of India". 

   As I believe our salaries are fixed/ passed only after approval of Govt. Our chairman and MD is also selected and appointed by Govt. Our SVRS was declared and implemented during 2001 only under the instructions of Fin ministry. More than 50% stake of all  the nationalised Banks are held by Govt of India. If individual banks recruit staff on their needs ,it is under the delegated powers to each bank by the Govt. Govt is pooling capital to individual weak banks as and when required.

     I do not how we can say  "Banks are not under the control of Government of India".

with regards

Suresh Bhat M

Canara Bank SVRS

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[Venkata S.Akella CFE]

Dear Mr.Prasad,

It is very nice of you to dig out the objective of the CAT.

To the extent I understand, all the public sector banks do carry the controlling stake of the GOI till date.

They are owned to the extent of atleast 50%. Hence, I would request for further examination of the applicability.

Thanks and best regards.

Murthy AVSN

( VRS Retiree of Andhra Bank )

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[Dr.dhananjaya Bhupathi]

Dear respected Prasad Sir, good morning. I do not agree with what U say/interpret the law. In my 'pension option case', i approached NHRC, Delhi on a service matter in 2005 and on the face of it they felt that it was outside their jurisdiction and told  telephonically/orally. Then my friend, an AGM working @ our  Karolbagh, Delhi branch approached NHRC office and conveyed my interpretation and they were kind enough to intervene and made the Collector & District Magistrate, Hyderabad to send a supporting letter to our Syndicate Bank H.O., Manipal. When I wanted to proceed further, in the meanwhile, we had II option for pension and the matter was closed. When a statutory authority created by the Parliament Act is accessible to the poor retirees, it depends upon us to interpret the law and approach them for redress. U may kindly get a 'precise'  representation drafted by a competent lawyer preferably of High Court and use Ur own wisdom to cover all our grievances and to arrange to submit to CAT authorities in person by our retiree stalwarts stationed @ Delhi. With this act, we have nothing to lose. The jurisdiction, painstakingly collected by Ur goodself and mailed to us, can cover our cases too. Even if CAT authorities say that, let them do so. With their matured wisdom and a very broadminded approach to come to the rescue of a senior citizen, I am sure they shall be magnanimous enough to entertain our representation.   U have weapons and wisdom to come to the rescue of retirees on par with Ms.Venugopal, bajranglal, badi, nt hegde, ch.v.narsaiah and many other luminaries in the field. U r better and well equipped than us.to draft a letter and get it submitted by our Delhi friends. When the God [CAT] is there to help the poor  & gullible-retirees, at the helm of affairs, why don't U approach him. No fees, No delay and No red-tape. Even if we lose, U possess Ur own weapons to use them wisely through writ petitions. If U want U may send 'the drafted letter'  to all of us for amendment, if any. If great Prasadji drafts, no scope to tinker with, I, strongly, believe it so. regards, Urs sincerely, Dr.Dhananjaya Bhupathi, Syndicate Bank Pensioner. PS.I request all the addressee luminaries, owners & creators of this site,  and all the enlightened retirees to support my views on interpretation of jurisdiction of CAT. Govt., of India can frame our regulations, control Banks' funds, write off loans  running to thousand of crores on some pretext or the other, enforce to collect taxes through us, supports equity by huge sanctions for viability, appoints directors, etc., etc.,---how come we don't come under the purview of CAT. CAT is just like the God. When the God is there to help the aggrieved & gullible retirees at large, jurisdiction is the whole of Indian Territory. It is outside the purview of the petitioner to decide the jurisdiction of the God. When the God is magnanimous and kind to help the poor, who are we to worry.

--- On Fri, 11/11/11, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Subject: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

[bass]

Dear friends,

Please find enclosed herewith an article which is self explanatory and
reveals that the employees of PSU banks were not under the purview of
CAT. But may come subject to improvement of infrastructure in CAT, by
the government in future.
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Employees of PSUs including banks may come under CAT ambit
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EMPLOYEES of public sector undertakings or PSUs including those
working in government banks may finally be able to approach Central
Administrative Tribunal (CAT) for justice in matters of recruitment
and conditions of service if the government succeeds in installing
better infrastructure in CAT. While talking at All India Conference of
CAT in New Delhi on Sunday, minister of state for personnel, public
grievances and pensions Prithviraj Chavan (See picture) said, "More
government employees would be in a position to get speedy justice for
their grievances. If we can fulfil the infrastructure needs of CAT,
even the PSUs and the Public Sector Banking institutions could be
covered."

Currently, 191 organisations of the Central government come under the
ambit of CAT which has so far handled about 5.32 lakh cases out of
which only about 23,000 cases are pending.

While inaugurating the conference, Chief Justice of India KG
Balakrishnan said that CAT had progressively improved their disposal
in recent years and some regional benches disposed off a higher number
of cases than the numbers instituted before them.

Chairman of Principal Bench CAT Justice VK Bali informed the gathering
that 91% of cases of the principal bench were upheld in the writ
petitions in Delhi High Court. "We have decided it as a matter of
policy that life of no case in the tribunal in any part of the country
would be more than six months", he added.
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So, Bank employees may come under CAT jurisdiction, in future and not
now.

With regards
S.M.BASHA


On Nov 12, 11:58 am, "Dr.dhananjaya Bhupathi" <dracupress...@yahoo.in>
wrote:

[Prasad C N]

Dear friends,

There is a difference between 'owning' and 'controlling'.  Associate Banks are not even owned by Govt. of India.  The jurisdiction is 'controlled' by 'Control' not owned.  

To illustrate, all Government Orders, etc. are in the name of 'President of India'.  But none of the Orders, etc. of PSBs are not in the name of the President of India.  No orders are Gazetted.  Our Officers are not Gazetted Officers.

I have faith in my Advocate and he advises us correctly.  If CATs were to have jurisdiction, he would have filed Petitions in CAT as he is also practicing in CAT.  I am not more intelligent than him. I do not wish to do any thing outside his advise.  Moreover, when our cases are pending in High Court, we cannot approach any other fora.

In fact, the letters sent by Mr.Sridhar of Mysore were also vetted by him.  

 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

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Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

[Prasad C N]

Dear Prof.Badiji,

If so, every High Court would have directed every Bank Officer/employee to approach CAT first. So far, I have not come across any such Orders by any Court in India and even by the Judges who are known to throw the Cases with such orders.

Even in Mr.Pradeep Kumar's case or Mr.Mohan Das's case or in any other case, No courts, including Supreme Court has ordered so, so far. 

 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

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Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

[ashok goel]

MR> BHASA

THE PIECEOF ANARTICLE INSERTED BY YOU PERTAINS TO Ist. NOVEMBER, 2009 SUNDAY>

But still it isamatterof relief. Thanksalot forrenewing thedemand.

ashok goel

[perumal maruthu]

Dear Sirs,

It is unfair to compel Mr Prasad to represent to CAT/NHRC when he has convincingly opined that Banks are not in the purview of them. As some people have proof/personal experience with CAT and NHRC they themselves can submit the desired Petition with the legal advice obtained from their Lawyer friends.

I also reiterate that Banks do not find a place in the Jurisdiction of CAT as per List.

However, I feel that  INDIVIDUALS can send Petitions not only to CAT and NHRC but also to Joint Parliamentary Committee/Constituitional Bench of SC/PMO/Empowered Group of Ministers of the Central Cabinet/ National Consumer Court/Fast Track Courts or any other entity thought fit to deliver Justice at our expected speed. Already, a copy of the PIL sent to Chief Justice of SC has been published long back on this site on one more option to VRS Retirees. Another EMOTIONAL Petition 'Governance or NO' was addressed to Madam Soniaji Chairperson of UPA II. Therfore there is no harm in seeking the help of or Petitioning to anyone. The cost of sending a petition is nothing compared to the expected benefit.

M.Perumal

CB

Chennai

 

 

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[Mohan badi]

Dear Sir, C.N. Prasadji,

Basu Sir has clarified that matter, Its CVC Office at NewDelhi, which I had attended.
I was mistaking it as CAT. please excuse for my misunderstanding. With regards.Now what are the jurisdiction of CVC.Kindly clarify.in the interest of all.

Prof.M.R.Badi.
Bangalore.

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Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 9:33 PM

[Mohan badi]

Thank you Sir,
Bashaji, I am very happy of this news given by you. So time is only and little factor, to achieve the dream of we all- PENSION FOR ALL- no condition apply.
Prof.M.R.Badi.
Bangalore.

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Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

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[Venkata S.Akella CFE]

Dear Mr.Prasad,

Thanks for your efforts to explore all the avenues and also for enlightening us.

May God bless with continued strength to fight for the casue and well being of the bankers fraternity.

With best regards.

Murthy AVSN

[Prasad C N]

Dear Shri Bhupathiji,

Mr.Basha has reproduced an article quoting a speech that the Bank employees are also going to be brought under purview of CAT.  This clearly indicates that Bank employees are not under purview of CAT as on date.

We do discuss with our Advocates, every aspects.  Whenever, I express opinion, please understand my opinion is backed by Advocates opinion, in most of the cases.  

Whenever, I have a different view other than that of members of this group, certainly I do study consequences/information available, before I comment or disagree.  I have remained silent many a times, when I agree with the opinion expressed.   

If the Information provided is correct/possible, we shall continue to proceed and I need not be convinced.

 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

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Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

Dear Prasad, Sir, good afternoon. It is easier to convince the CAT authorities than Ur goodself. Since, U happen to be the Massaiah of the retired lot.The lawyer cannot say unless an intelligent client like U asks. In my case, on certain family properties-matters, my advocate never told anything. But, when I told that I don't want to file any more cases, then he told me to approach the Municipal authorities, the police and all the problems were settled outside courts only. It is left to  Ur kind and enlightened wisdom to weigh-up the pros of filing a petition with CAT. No cons et all. Even if I were in Ur enlightened advocate's position----with excellent professional ethics, I too would have kept mum, unless and until my client asks about a particular matter. Because, I must justify my family burden than ethics. We pray the almighty to shower His choicest blessings and counseling up on Ur goodself to fulfill Ur noble tasks for the benefit of one and all. regards, Dr.Dhananjaya Bhupathi

--- On Sat, 12/11/11, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com>

[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

The observations made by Sri Prasad C N are very much apt and pertinent in so far as the CAT jurisdiction is concerned.

D S MURTI

[Dr.dhananjaya Bhupathi]

Dear Prasad, Sir, good afternoon. It is easier to convince the CAT authorities than Ur goodself. Since, U happen to be the Massaiah of the retired lot.The lawyer cannot say unless an intelligent client like U asks. In my case, on certain family properties-matters, my advocate never told anything. But, when I told that I don't want to file any more cases, then he told me to approach the Municipal authorities, the police and all the problems were settled outside courts only. It is left to  Ur kind and enlightened wisdom to weigh-up the pros of filing a petition with CAT. No cons et all. Even if I were in Ur enlightened advocate's position----with excellent professional ethics, I too would have kept mum, unless and until my client asks about a particular matter. Because, I must justify my family burden than ethics. We pray the almighty to shower His choicest blessings and counseling up on Ur goodself to fulfill Ur noble tasks for the benefit of one and all. regards, Dr.Dhananjaya Bhupathi --- On Sat, 12/11/11, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

To: "bankpe...@googlegroups.com" <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> Date: Saturday, 12 November, 2011, 3:51 PM

[perumal maruthu]

Dear sirs,

Why this kind of coercing or cajoling? Mr.Prasad has more than once made it very clear that Banks do not come under the jurisdiction of CAT. Why do they try to make him a scape-goat? Why can't they themselves approach CAT?

M.Perumal

Chennai

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Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

Dear Prasad, Sir, good afternoon. It is easier to convince the CAT authorities than Ur goodself. Since, U happen to be the Massaiah of the retired lot.The lawyer cannot say unless an intelligent client like U asks. In my case, on certain family properties-matters, my advocate never told anything. But, when I told that I don't want to file any more cases, then he told me to approach the Municipal authorities, the police and all the problems were settled outside courts only. It is left to  Ur kind and enlightened wisdom to weigh-up the pros of filing a petition with CAT. No cons et all. Even if I were in Ur enlightened advocate's position----with excellent professional ethics, I too would have kept mum, unless and until my client asks about a particular matter. Because, I must justify my family burden than ethics. We pray the almighty to shower His choicest blessings and counseling up on Ur goodself to fulfill Ur noble tasks for the benefit of one and all. regards, Dr.Dhananjaya Bhupathi --- On Sat, 12/11/11, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction To: "bankpe...@googlegroups.com" <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> Date: Saturday, 12 November, 2011, 3:51 PM

Dear friends, There is a difference between 'owning' and 'controlling'.  Associate Banks are not even owned by Govt. of India.  The jurisdiction is 'controlled' by 'Control' not owned.   To illustrate, all Government Orders, etc. are in the name of 'President of India'.  But none of the Orders, etc. of PSBs are not in the name of the President of India.  No orders are Gazetted.  Our Officers are not Gazetted Officers. I have faith in my Advocate and he advises us correctly.  If CATs were to have jurisdiction, he would have filed Petitions in CAT as he is also practicing in CAT.  I am not more intelligent than him. I do not wish to do any thing outside his advise.  Moreover, when our cases are pending in High Court, we cannot approach any other fora. In fact, the letters sent by Mr.Sridhar of Mysore were also vetted by him.     Thanks, a Million.

With regards,Prasad C N

From: sureshbhat M <sures...@gmail.com> To: bankpe...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 9:51 AM Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

Dear Prasad Sir      I surprise to read that "Banks are not under the control of Government of India".     As I believe our salaries are fixed/ passed only after approval of Govt. Our chairman and MD is also selected and appointed by Govt. Our SVRS was declared and implemented during 2001 only under the instructions of Fin ministry. More than 50% stake of all  the nationalised Banks are held by Govt of India. If individual banks recruit staff on their needs ,it is under the delegated powers to each bank by the Govt. Govt is pooling capital to individual weak banks as and when required.      I do not how we can say  "Banks are not under the control of Government of India". with regards Suresh Bhat M Canara Bank SVRS

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear friends, The objective of the The Administrative Tribunal Act, 1985 is as under : An Act to provide for the adjudication or trial by Administrative Tribunals of disputes and complaints with respect to recruitment and conditions of service of persons appointed to public services and posts in connection with the affairs of the Union or of any State or of any local or other authority within the territory of India or under the control of the Government of India or of [any corporation or society owned or controlled by the Government in pursuance of Article 323A of the Constitution] and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.   Banks and other PSUs do not come under purview of CAT, as these Banks are not under the control of Government of India.  Thanks, a Million.

With regards,Prasad C N

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[Dr.dhananjaya Bhupathi]

Dear Perumal Sir, Good evening. Hats off to U for Ur excellent knowledge, and active participation with updates in this August forum.  If I can file a petition with CAT or any other Institution for that matter, I would have already done so. I am not that much well versed with the facts like Ur goodself and Mr.Prasad. Unfortunately, Ur communication is smeared with prejudice.Kindly, be happy, peaceful while dealing with everyone of our retiree friends. I agree with U that anybody for that matter can petition the CAT. At the same time, every Tom, Dick and Harry can't petition just like that. It should have some relevance and sense. Since Mr.Prasad is well equipped with up to date and knowledge about service conditions, I requested him. Though Mr.Prasad is a member of the award staff, he has the vision, broad mindedness to help his elder brothers/sisters--with magnanimity and no prejudice.. Once retired, we are all one and the same with no cadre difference. I personally feel it so. In our Bank also, we came across certain award staff leaders who were my bosom friends and we used to consult them for help and guidance and vice versa. I believe that 'intelligence' is nobody's grand father's property. Any individual, not withstanding the cadre, one  can be more intelligent than his/her superiors. I got one such friend by name Mr.P.Bhagawan, Warangal. I never say that it applies to everyone. At times,it so happens. Being senior citizens, we are expected to communicate our mails with decency, decorum with no prejudice. kind regards, Ur sincerely, Dr.Dhananjaya Bhupathi. Syndicate Bank Pensioner. PS. In the light of our advancing age, I request each and every participant to be happy and peaceful and friendly; so that all of us can lead a healthy and tension-free life..Long live all the participants and long live the creators of this August body. --- On Mon, 14/11/11, perumal maruthu <perumal...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

With regards, Prasad C N

From: sureshbhat M <sures...@gmail.com> To: bankpe...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 9:51 AM Subject: Re: bankpensioner CAT - Jurisdiction

Dear Prasad Sir      I surprise to read that "Banks are not under the control of Government of India".     As I believe our salaries are fixed/ passed only after approval of Govt. Our chairman and MD is also selected and appointed by Govt. Our SVRS was declared and implemented during 2001 only under the instructions of Fin ministry. More than 50% stake of all  the nationalised Banks are held by Govt of India. If individual banks recruit staff on their needs ,it is under the delegated powers to each bank by the Govt. Govt is pooling capital to individual weak banks as and when required.      I do not how we can say  "Banks are not under the control of Government of India". with regards Suresh Bhat M Canara Bank SVRS

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Prasad C N <cn_pr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear friends, The objective of the The Administrative Tribunal Act, 1985 is as under : An Act to provide for the adjudication or trial by Administrative Tribunals of disputes and complaints with respect to recruitment and conditions of service of persons appointed to public services and posts in connection with the affairs of the Union or of any State or of any local or other authority within the territory of India or under the control of the Government of India or of [any corporation or society owned or controlled by the Government in pursuance of Article 323A of the Constitution] and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.   Banks and other PSUs do not come under purview of CAT, as these Banks are not under the control of Government of India.  Thanks, a Million.

With regards, Prasad C N

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[perumal maruthu]

Dear sir,

You have not answered my questions. Instead , you have sent a long sermon on

DECENCY, DECORUM AND PREJUDICE. I leave it to the judgment of the viewers/readers.

Dr. heal thyself, before trying to heal others......atleast on CAT.

M.Perumal

Chennai

 

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[ravi jain]

sir,
if a person has shown you the jurisdiction of CAT then why are we
downing him. in practice it may be different but whose posiibility in
this case is very less. so be soft in your words at least if you cant
be from heart.
be happy
ravi jain

On 14/11/2011, perumal maruthu <perumal...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Dear sirs,
> Why this kind of coercing or cajoling? Mr.Prasad has more than once made it
> very clear that Banks do not come under the jurisdiction of CAT. Why do they
> try to make him a scape-goat? Why can't they themselves approach CAT?
> M.Perumal
> Chennai
>
>

> ________________________________

>>________________________________

[purnachandra rao poluru]

nationalised banks are  '' UNDER CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT OF INDIA" as per definition of objects of CAT.Hence they are

covered by CAT definetly

[Prasad C N]

Dear Shri Purnachandra Rao Poluru,

I am reproducing the information provided by Mr. Basha, which says that 'Public Sector Banking institutions could be covered.'.  This makes it amply clear that Banks are not covered by CAT, at present. 

In the meantime, there is no great advantage of going through CAT, as appeal jurisdiction lies with High Courts and then Supreme Court and Banks have practice of preferring appeals.

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Employees of PSUs including banks may come under CAT ambit
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EMPLOYEES of public sector undertakings or PSUs including those
working in government banks may finally be able to approach Central
Administrative Tribunal (CAT) for justice in matters of recruitment
and conditions of service if the government succeeds in installing
better infrastructure in CAT. While talking at All India Conference of
CAT in New Delhi on Sunday, minister of state for personnel, public
grievances and pensions Prithviraj Chavan (See picture) said, "More
government employees would be in a position to get speedy justice for
their grievances. If we can fulfil the infrastructure needs of CAT,
even the PSUs and the Public Sector Banking institutions could be
covered."

 

Thanks, a Million.

With regards,
Prasad C N

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From: purnachandra rao poluru <ppr...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:28 PM