Re: bankpensioner 100% DA
Ramachandran M N
Dear Pensioners,
It is a surprise that neither the UFBU nor the Retirees / Pensioners Associations has expressed the view that denying 100% D.A. to pre 2002 retirees is an anomaly. The formula of paying D.A. on tapering method to pre 2002 retirees and 100% D.A. to those retired after 2002 created two category of pensioners which even the courts will not agree.
As it is I do not understand the dubious talks prevailing on the cost factor. This is a futile exercise and an excuse put forward by the IBA and simply nodded by the unions.
This anomaly simply has to be rectified and justice meted out to the pensioners.
Let us hope and pray good sense prevail upon all those who are responsible for the debacle.
M.N.Ramachandran.
Dear friends,Updation is not accepted even in RBI,where they have sufficient funds.There all retirees are united to demand Pension Updation.Inspite of this they could not achieve this for the past 7 years.In our case retiree organisations are a divided lot pulling in different directions.Moreover IBA brings forward the bogey of weak banks to grant a demand like Updation and drags the issue indefinitely.Hence giving priority for Updation instead of other humanitarian demands will only give a legitimate excuse to IBA for dragging the issue for another 5 to 10 years.Meanwhile the other groups of retirees who are already suffering from Injustice meted out to them will be forced to exit from this world out of frustration and humiliation.By then employees with NPS will dominate the banking scene and issue of Updation also may be forgotten altogether.Ultimately ,We get neither the Moon nor the Mango.With regards,P B Sarma.--
On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Metlapalli Sharma <metlapa...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear friends,
- Keeping our just demand for up-gradation live, all need to press for 100% DA neutralisation to the pre-2002 retirees,on priority.
- The ground level reality is that in times of spiraling prices and ever increasing cost of living the miserable plight of the deprived sections of the pensioners should not be over looked.
- when the cost involved is low, IBA admits to consider it on humanitarian grounds,and when up-gradation is still a far off cry the focus must be on the achievable task of setting the DA disparity right.
- Consorted efforts at early compilation, presentation and pursuance of the matter- cost exercise - needs our attention. Incase we can achieve up gradation next month, the matter may be sidelined.
- That not being the case sidelining the 100% DA neutralisation case is detrimental to the collective interests of the Bank pensioners community.
sarma--On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Metlapalli Sharma <metlapa...@gmail.com> wrote:dear Ramachandran,I echo your point of view . The just demand of retirees earlier to 2002 is put at stake for, though not impossible, achievement of up-gradation. Result is the deprived few are agonizingly made to wait for the fulfillment of the demand of the majority. As rightly said the cost factor involved in securing 100% DA, is minimal. Still the demand is not projected with required vigor. With spiraling cost of living the plight of pre -2002 retirees is pathetic. May all concerned focus their attention more to this aspect .msn sarma
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www.avast.comOn Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Gopalakrishnan Ramachandran <chandra...@gmail.com> wrote:It is noted that whenever the 100%DA matter is raised two points are highlighted:
1. Pension updation.This will take care of 100%DA.
2. Left over category.
Yes, we unequivocally want that all should get pension. Our sympathies are with them. No doubt we will have to fight so that all get pension.
Reg.updation, because we demand 100%DA, some say, updation cannot ever happen. Ok if we demand updation, is it ready for the take? As if we are against updation, a picture is created.
Further demanding parity of DA will not be detrimental to any other demand.
In any case, charter of demands will consists of so many demands like LFC for retired, etc.
Are we going to get all the demands we make?
So my argument is that by demanding DA100% no other demand loses its value.
As we know the cost of 100DA is comparatively low, and if we are not going to get this what about updation which is more costly?
Another point 100%DA is not a new demand in banking industry, as the same is available in RBI. But updation is yet to happen in the financial arena.
Having said the above, I shall be happy if updation happens from the next month and I am personally willing to forego the DA demand fully.
But what is the guarantee that we will get updation is the near future.
No light is seen at the end of the tunnel.
And the arguments continue...G.Ramachandran
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cpvnair
Respected Somasekharaji, I do not find any positivity in these shows.If UFBU is sincere, they could have approached in one voice-not in divided tones.Everybody seems to show that he is doing something but IBA seems to be adamant. Now IBA got a shot in its arm because of these gimmicks.
After Dec11 action at Juntar Mantar, what is the next programme of the confederation?Or has it also become a divided house on ac of the rumblings over leadership ?We are helpless on account of these ego clashes.I recall the hectic activities of AIBRF in May 2015 where we all became enthusiastic.AIBRF, AIBPARC and SBI retirees Federation, the key players in the field should move with more unity in sorting out the issues which pain the bank retirees.Shooting of similar letters and getting replies on similar lines cannot solve the issues.UFBU should ponder over doing something concrete to solve the retirees’ issues .We are all confident that if UFBU is sincere , it would be not be difficult to solve the issues.
I air these views only in the retirees’ angle.I have high regards for my UFBU but feel sorry that UFBU does not acknowledge this. Hope, it would soon plunge into actions on our burning issues.
Warm reg
CPVNAIR
Dear friends,
1. Keeping our just demand for up-gradation live, all need to press for 100% DA neutralisation to the pre-2002 retirees,on priority.
2. The ground level reality is that in times of spiraling prices and ever increasing cost of living the miserable plight of the deprived sections of the pensioners should not be over looked.
3. when the cost involved is low, IBA admits to consider it on humanitarian grounds,and when up-gradation is still a far off cry the focus must be on the achievable task of setting the DA disparity right.
4. Consorted efforts at early compilation, presentation and pursuance of the matter- cost exercise - needs our attention. Incase we can achieve up gradation next month, the matter may be sidelined.
5. That not being the case sidelining the 100% DA neutralisation case is detrimental to the collective interests of the Bank pensioners community.
sarma
kknanda5
Forget Ufbu for retirees.
Respected Somasekharaji, I do not find any positivity in these shows.If UFBU is sincere, they could have approached in one voice-not in divided tones.Everybody seems to show that he is doing something but IBA seems to be adamant. Now IBA got a shot in its arm because of these gimmicks.
After Dec11 action at Juntar Mantar, what is the next programme of the confederation?Or has it also become a divided house on ac of the rumblings over leadership ?We are helpless on account of these ego clashes.I recall the hectic activities of AIBRF in May 2015 where we all became enthusiastic.AIBRF, AIBPARC and SBI retirees Federation, the key players in the field should move with more unity in sorting out the issues which pain the bank retirees.Shooting of similar letters and getting replies on similar lines cannot solve the issues.UFBU should ponder over doing something concrete to solve the retirees’ issues .We are all confident that if UFBU is sincere , it would be not be difficult to solve the issues.
I air these views only in the retirees’ angle.I have high regards for my UFBU but feel sorry that UFBU does not acknowledge this. Hope, it would soon plunge into actions on our burning issues.
Warm reg
CPVNAIR
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kknanda5
Can I get a clarification for the following. After superannuation Bank has sought explanation after one year for certain alleged lapses in loans sanctioned by the retiree during his tenure as BM. As the retiree is unable to recollect the subject sought Bank permission to visit the branch to verify records for which permission is accorded but the retiree has to go at his own cost. What is the exact guidelines may be quoted.
giris...@yahoo.co.in
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