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[vaidya nathan]

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All these years decades pensioners are taking good of CHV and UFBU in hope that they will do something good for us.  Even after thirty years, nothing good has come out. Even the UFBU does not inclined to revise the Exgratia annually and asked IBA to implement Exgratia payment to all private bank retirees.what is wrong in calling Spade a Spade by  Murthy like leaders who showed TRUE inclination to better pensioner's problem. Leaders who brought Pension scheme for a second time was  Sampath.  CHV is only a leftinent .  Sama, Dhana Peda Thandam to be used for getting our rights. So last resort of faulting with Leaders, pointing out so openly, atleast to realise.

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• Merging for Strength or Shrinking for Sale? Inside the Govt’s PSB Merger Plan - 1 Update
• GST on group insurance - 1 Update
• AIBEA TO MR D S MURTHY - 5 Updates
• 19th Oct 1966 -AN ERA OF BPS - 2 Updates

Merging for Strength or Shrinking for Sale? Inside the Govt’s PSB Merger Plan

RAMANI NV <ramani...@gmail.com>: Oct 25 06:57PM +0530 Merging for Strength or Shrinking for Sale? Inside the Govt’s PSB Merger Plan https://share.google/YuRLKMItczjjbhqLC

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GST on group insurance

Kalyanasundaram Subramaniam <1952...@gmail.com>: Oct 26 08:39PM -0700 https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/money-and-banking/hc-order-gives-hope-to-bank-retirees-on-gst-relief-on-health-insurance/article70205184.ece   S Kalyanasundaram

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AIBEA TO MR D S MURTHY

Gopalakrishnan Ramachandran <chandra...@gmail.com>: Oct 24 04:51PM +0530 What Shri Soma Sekhara has stated is 100% true. He has beautifully explained the present situation. Shri D S Murthy is one of the disenchanted pensioners who are facing an onslaught from IBA, with a UFBU side by side. Shri Murthy has stated the facts but the language used by him not correct. Nevertheless the UFBU should do a soul search, as to the treatment meted out to the senior retirees, with IBA's patronage. Instead of sueing the hapless Shri Murthy the UFBU can set right the anomalies and do something to make the lives of retirees comfortable one.   G Ramachandran CB-SVRS   On Fri, 24 Oct, 2025, 16:03 Parvatam Veera Bhadra Swamy, <pvbs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Harish Midha <harish...@gmail.com>: Oct 24 04:45PM +0530 All the issues raised by Mr Sekhra are pending for several years now. The Unions/ associationS are supposed to look after the interests of employees/ authorised to discuss and try improve the benefits to retirees. Does it even remotely appear that the unions/ associations can take a high moral ground for having justified their moral duties.   Issues raised by Mr Murti also on behalf of pensioners are all justified. Mother of demands - Pension updation not done since so many decades and our friend still suggesting for having patience.   Facts are known to everyone.Thousand if not lakhs of our friends have left for heavenly abode waiting for something good to happen. Like for example, I am 75+( MMG-2 pensioner)having taken vrs in 1994 ,am compelled to shell out my more than three months pension for taking mediclaim policy of IBA with max coverage and as mentioned and my wife suggesting from different ailments. Had to borrow money to pay premium. Can CHV take a high moral ground and justify the act of COMMISSION by UFBU Steps may be taken to have the matter resolved and UFBU/AIBEA should take up serious steps for achieving the results and be transparent.   On Fri, 24 Oct, 2025, 16:03 JSOMA SHEKARA, <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:

JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Oct 24 06:22PM +0530 Yes.We have been waiting since the last 20 years. AIBEA will definitely resolve issues after another 20 years.   On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 4:03 PM Parvatam Veera Bhadra Swamy <

Harish Midha <harish...@gmail.com>: Oct 24 04:48PM +0530 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Harish Midha <harish...@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct, 2025, 16:45 Subject: Re: bankpensioner AIBEA TO MR D S MURTHY To: <bankpe...@googlegroups.com>     All the issues raised by Mr Sekhra are pending for several years now. The Unions/ associationS are supposed to look after the interests of employees/ authorised to discuss and try improve the benefits to retirees. Does it even remotely appear that the unions/ associations can take a high moral ground for having justified their moral duties.   Issues raised by Mr Murti also on behalf of pensioners are all justified. Mother of demands - Pension updation not done since so many decades and our friend still suggesting for having patience.   Facts are known to everyone.Thousand if not lakhs of our friends have left for heavenly abode waiting for something good to happen. Like for example, I am 75+( MMG-2 pensioner)having taken vrs in 1994 ,am compelled to shell out my more than three months pension for taking mediclaim policy of IBA with max coverage and as mentioned and my wife suggesting from different ailments. Had to borrow money to pay premium. Can CHV take a high moral ground and justify the act of COMMISSION by UFBU Steps may be taken to have the matter resolved and UFBU/AIBEA should take up serious steps for achieving the results and be transparent.   On Fri, 24 Oct, 2025, 16:03 JSOMA SHEKARA, <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:

Satyanarayana Rao <karna...@yahoo.co.in>: Oct 24 02:59PM Shri Somashekar ji. At the outset I thank you for your enlightend and detailed information about UFBU totally ignoring the legal benefits which are due to retirees. In every bipartite negotiations they UFBU add pension updation issue and ignore to pursue to achieve pension updation and continuously postpone the issue without giving any serious approach for achieving it. This is known to all. I completely endorse your voice that the AIBEA which is the architect of pension scheme under the able leadership of late com Tharakehvar Chakraborty signed the agreement facing stiff opposition with in the UFBU. Red salute to him. To day we don't have such gegantic leadership in any constituent members of UFBU. Com CHV and AIBEA and all consultants of UFBU takes firm stand and threaten IBA that they will go on agitation if the demand of pension updation is not resolved the IBA and the government will succumb and sign the pension updation agreement. Here comes who can force or influence the AIBEA leaders to plunge into serious approach to sign pension updation agreement? Coming to social media views nobody has control. Our target is to achieve retirees issues are resolved. Making allegations and sarcastic comments against anybody will not bring justice to us. Let us hope better sense and broad thinking and change in the attitude of UFBU will take place and achieve pension updation and put an end to this mudslinging coldwar between retirees and UFBU. With regards to you and to Shri Veerbhadra swamy who expressed the kind words on my write up.   Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 at 16:03, JSOMA SHEKARA<jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote: Mr.Satyanarayana whatever views Sri D S murthy had expressed, 90% of pensioners have also expressed such opinion all over the social media. But the language Sri D S Murthy had expressed is objectionable.1. General opinion is UFBU is in collusion with IBA to deny benefits to retirees.     UFBU silence on iBA actions support this opinion.      While signing the EX gratia agreement it was agreed that the same would be reviewed every year starting from April 24. Few pensioners were happy that if  Ex gratia reviewed some financial benefit would be available. But IBA letter to CLC it is evident that Ex gratia was reviewed in consultation with UFBU which means UFBU agreed with IBA that no improvement is needed in Ex gratia. UFBU leaders with 6 decades of experience are well aware of legal position that mere pending of a case does not in any way bar negotiations between IBA and UFBU to discuss updation unless there is a stay from any court. But UFBU leaders  agreed with the IBA claim of sub judice without any protest.There are small committee resolutions that permit updation as per RBI pension structure.But IBA filed an affidavit before SC claiming that there is no provision in Pension regulation.Why is UFBU  not protesting this even after RBI pensioners got updation twice although their pension regulations do not have provision for Updation.UFBU blocking Updation and other benefitsOn 08.03.2024 IBA and UFBU signed minutes agreeing to amend pension regulations to make provision for Updation in every settlement, merger of DA etc. But though 18 months have passed, UFBU is not taking any action to implement resolutions.Though IBA is using one pending case in SC as an excuse to delay discussions on updation, UFBU itself is filing another case intentionally to further stall the discussions.Often claiming fund shortage without disclosing cost.Though the cost is a few hundred rupees per pensioner not taking up merger of DA issue for last two decades. Signing Special allowance settlement making pensioners lose a few lakhs of Rupees during their lifetime.Majority of pensioners are expressing their resentment against UFBU on above issues.I expected C H V would offer some explanation on these issues in his notice to CHV.************             On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:58 AM JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:   While there is no information of  Sri.D S Murthy responding to Mr.C H Vs notice. two personsSri.kamalesh Trivedi and Sri. C N Venugopalan have uploaded their response to C H Vs notice defending Sri.D S murthy and refuting all charges of C H V. On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:44 AM 'Satyanarayana Rao' via bankpensioner <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:   What is the issue between Shri D.S . Murthy and CHV the general secretary of AIBEA. CHV claims that Sri Murthy has defamed him by making false allegations which are baseless and provocative and involved in corrupt practices. This is the bone of contention. Is it necessary and right to make and pricpitate the matter? A I B EA is the chief architect of pension scheme and succeeded in achieving it against the stiff opposition from all the constituents of UFBU.To day we are getting some pension for managing the day to needs. No doubt we need updation and increase in pension. This is the responsibility of UFBU to successfully achieve pension updation. Why we should blame and make baseless allegations and indulge in charector assassination of AIBEA leaders. Will it resolve our pending issues? Therefore we have to be prudent in our communications any totally avoid such writings. The big all India retirees associations also failed to convince the UFBU to successfully achieve pension updation. As individuals what we can do? As on today we are getting pension+ ex-gratia through bipartite negotiations between IBA and UFBU. We have to request and pursue the pending issues through UFBU only. The issues are very important.But writing against anybody will not help the retirees to achieve pension updation. Therefore we have to pursue through all available Avenues with sofistication and be polite and dignified in our approach. I am sure Shri D S.Murthy beeing learned and metured will   take care and resolve the issue With CHV in amicable manner as it deserves with out further pricpitation.         Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 at 15:57, 'Satyanarayana Rao' via bankpensioner<bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote: The agrived retirees have right to question the UFBU leaders for not getting pensioner's issues resolved in time bound manner. At the same time nobody has right to make personal and baseless allegations and character assassination of any leadership. It is unfortunate that no retirees associations have succeeded in achieving our pending issues resolved .Shri D .S.Murthy is senior and matured person who is relentlessly echoing our plight is requested to avoid controversial writing against anybody and close the issue amicably with CHV with mutual respect and understanding.       Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 at 16:42, Vvns Varaprasadrao<varapra...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Somashekara, As rightly pointed out by you, the GS of AIBEA  is supposed to clarify  on his lapses to  Sri D S Murthy  and also to all the retirees before proceeding for legal action, if any. Regards. On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 10:03 AM JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:   Mr.CHV has every right to take legal action against Mr.Murthy. One can question Unions and leaders for delay in resolving issues but personal attacks, accusations without evidence should not be made. If what mr.CHV disclosed is true then Mr.Murthy will face consequences.But there are other 750000 pensioners who are silently searching for answers to questions 1. Why there is delay in resolving issues like Updation, DA merger. Pension on special allowance etc for the last 25 years. IBA/Banks are not communicating with retirees. While CHV has the constitutional right to take action against Mr.Murthy, it would have been fair if CHV had spared a few words to address these questions in the letter.     On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 2:49 PM MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com> wrote:         -- Visit our blog site http:://bankpensioner.blogspot.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bankpensioner" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bankpensione...@googlegroups.com. 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19th Oct 1966 -AN ERA OF BPS

Ramesh Inamdar <ryin...@gmail.com>: Oct 24 04:18PM +0530 Indian Bank disbursed on 15th October

Vvns Varaprasadrao <varapra...@gmail.com>: Oct 24 04:15PM +0530 Union Bank of India disbursed pension on 18th Oct, 2025.   Regards.

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