Commutation arrears

[K V Venkataramana]

Dear Sir,

I retired from Syndicate Bank under SVRS in April 2001. (28 April 2001).  My basic pension is Rs. 7880. Could anyone please tell me what will be my commutation arrears.

Regards,

K V Venkataramana

[Kishalaya]

Mr. Venkataramana,

 

The information you have provided is not sufficient to calculate your commutation arrears. I am attaching one Commutation Arrear calculator prepared by me by which you can calculate your commutation arrear yourself. But are you sure that you will get the arrears at all?

 

Thank you.

Kishalaya Mukherjee.

 

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[shantilal nagal]

Your present BP of 7880 is @ 1684 points. What was your BP @1616before revision done in last year.

You can  know it from calculation sheet for arrears paid in 2018.    

Also inform your date of birth.

S K NAGAL

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, Kishalaya <kishalaya...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Venkataramana,

 

The information you have provided is not sufficient to calculate your commutation arrears. I am attaching one Commutation Arrear calculator prepared by me by which you can calculate your commutation arrear yourself. But are you sure that you will get the arrears at all?

 

Thank you.

Kishalaya Mukherjee.

 

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From: K V Venkataramana
Sent: 24 September 2019 04:02 PM
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Subject: bankpensioner Commutation arrears

 

Dear Sir,

 

I retired from Syndicate Bank under SVRS in April 2001. (28 April 2001).  My basic pension is Rs. 7880. Could anyone please tell me what will be my commutation arrears.

 

Regards,

K V Venkataramana

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[dinesh kumar sharma]

Dear Sir 

I furnish herewith the details of my pension with a request to apprise me arrears of commutation.

Retirement date. 12/10/2004

DOB.                      29/12/1953

Basic pension.     5876

Commuted.          1958

Commutation.      283137

I had received arrears of difference in BP last year as Rs 16005 and interest thereon Rs 19315

My present basic pension is Rs10200 and total pension is Rs 30315

Please do the needful.

Thanks and regards

D K Sharma 

BOI

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[dinesh kumar sharma]

Thanks a lot for your response

 As calculation sheet was not provided to us BP at 1616 point is not known.However BP at the time of retirement was 5876.DOB 29/12/50

Regards

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 15:48 shantilal nagal <slnag...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your present BP of 7880 is @ 1684 points. What was your BP @1616before revision done in last year.

You can  know it from calculation sheet for arrears paid in 2018.    

Also inform your date of birth.

S K NAGAL

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, Kishalaya <kishalaya...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Venkataramana,

 

The information you have provided is not sufficient to calculate your commutation arrears. I am attaching one Commutation Arrear calculator prepared by me by which you can calculate your commutation arrear yourself. But are you sure that you will get the arrears at all?

 

Thank you.

Kishalaya Mukherjee.

 

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From: K V Venkataramana
Sent: 24 September 2019 04:02 PM
To: bankpe...@googlegroups.com
Subject: bankpensioner Commutation arrears

 

Dear Sir,

 

I retired from Syndicate Bank under SVRS in April 2001. (28 April 2001).  My basic pension is Rs. 7880. Could anyone please tell me what will be my commutation arrears.

 

Regards,

K V Venkataramana

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[Kishalaya]

Mr. Dinesh Kumar Sharma,

There are mismatches in your information.

1. As per the commutation amount that you have received, your age is 53 plus (comm. factor 12.05) But as per your DOB and DOR, your age is 50 plus (comm. Factor 12.95).
2. Considering your BP arrear as 16005/- your basic pension figure seems to be wrong. Its also not clear whether the basic pension amounts are including or excluding commuted amount.

Please furnish correct basic pension figures for April 2005 and May 2005 and the difference per month you have received.

Thanks,

Kishalaya Mukherjee.

 

 

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[dinesh kumar sharma]

Thanks for your response

BP at the time of retirement 5876 out of which 1958 commuted 

BP after commutation 3918

BP in April 5876

BP in May 10200

Date of retirement 12th Oct 2004 (CRS)

DOB 29th Dec 1950

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[Kishalaya Mukherjee]

Mr. Dinesh Sharma,
If you have retired in the year 2004, then you are getting fully neutralized DA on your basic Pension @ 0.18%. 

DR factor on your present basic pension is 18.36. Present DR slab is 1219 in your case. So, your total pension should be :

10,200 + 22380.84 (18.36*1219) = 32580.84 less commutation 1958/- = 30,622.84. 

You are entitled to commute a further  amount of RS. 1442/-(3400 - 1958).

Commuted value will be :

1442* 12.05 * 12 = 2,08,513/-

But it's upto your bank whether they will consider it or not. 

You have no relation with 1616-1684 controversy. 

Thank you.

Kishalaya Mukherjee.

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[dinesh kumar sharma]

Thanks Sir

But I was paid arrears of pension in June 2018 as Rs 16015 and Rs 19244 interest thereon.It may be for the period from Oct 2004 (my retirement) to 30th April 2005.

(For six months 19 days) Our bank had not provided calculation sheets hence I presume that the arrears related to 1616-1684.

Please apprise your views with reference to above.

Regards

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[Kishalaya Mukherjee]

The huge difference between your basic at retirement and  basic at present can't be the impact of 1616-1684 difference. There must be some other reasons which you and your bank should know. The impact of 1616-1684 points is less than 20% in basic.  But in your case it is more than 70%. 1616-1684 arrear is applicable for those who have retired before Nov 2002. All who have retired between Nov 2002 and Nov 2007 are receiving DA @ .18% flat without tapering. 

You should visit your pension disbursing branch personally  to get a copy of your pension calculation worksheets. 

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[dinesh kumar sharma]

Thanks a lot Sir for devoting time and giving good advice.

Regards

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Will Banks pay 8% int on 5 years benefit arrears which was due from 2001 but paid in 2009-2010.

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:04 PM JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:

Banks should pay 8% interest for delay in crediting pension, arrears: RBI

All agency banks disbursing pension are advised to provide considerate and sympathetic customer service to the pensioners, especially to those pensioners who are of old age

 

Read more at:
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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Banks should pay 8% interest for delay in crediting pension, arrears: RBI

All agency banks disbursing pension are advised to provide considerate and sympathetic customer service to the pensioners, especially to those pensioners who are of old age

 

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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[Dattar Sawhney]

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Please inform me if I am also entitled for commutation difference as I have taken VRS in 2000 from PNB and retired on 20.12.2000. I do not know whether PNB has also initiated the payment. If not paying then the course open to the individual for getting the payment as most of the retirees are senior citizen with certain ailments and have limitations in long perusal. Please find out some way

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[Dattar Sawhney]

Please inform me if I am also entitled for commutation difference as I have taken VRS in 2000 from PNB and retired on 20.12.2000. I do not know whether PNB has also initiated the payment. If not paying then the course open to the individual for getting the payment as most of the retirees are senior citizen with certain ailments and have limitations in long perusal. Please find out some way

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[Metlapalli Sharma]

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All retirees of PSBs, retired between 1/11/1998 and 30/ 4/2005 are eligible for the benefit.

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[Nagaraju Kakani]

Sairam  Sarma ji,

Is this commutation arrears , due to difference in the factor for calculation of commutation, taken as on the date of payment instead of date of retirement.Hope this is applicable to 2 and option pensioners of 2009 also.Shall we to apply to individual bank managements claiming to pay the difference of commutation arrears.

What about DR arears based on PRE 1995,Appendix II.Shall we to claim this also with Bank management.If so is there any chart to calculate the difference as I am a 2009 Pention optee retired in 2000 under SVRS OF Bank of India.

Play advise.

With regards and warm Navarathri Greetings,

Nagaraju Kakani, 

Ex BOI,2000 SVRS Retiree/ 2009 Pensioner,

Malkajgiri,Hyderabad.

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[Asok Bhaumik]

It seems each retirees assn. has to file contempt petition to derive the benefit. But so far no PSB retirees assn. has moved an inch towards reaping the benefit either through management or through filing contempt petition.

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[Dattar Sawhney]

Sir, IT IS REGRETTED THAT SUFFICIENT TIME This HAS ELAPSED IN SC JUDGEMENT BUT NO RESPONSE IS FORTHCOMING FROM ALL CONCERNED BANKS. EVEN RETIREES ASSOCIATION ARE NOT ADHERING TO THE RETIRES  PROBLEMS FOR THE REASONS BEST KNOWN TO THEM. THIS WAS BEST TIME FOR THE ASSOCIATIONS TO GAIN THE GOODWILL OF ALMOST ALL OLD RETIREES AND NUMBER OF  THEM ARE AILING.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

IBA is a clever Sutradhar in Banking Industry. It is pulling strings so cleverly that BPS negotiations system has become ridiculous and childish and 9 militant Unions and two retiree organizations have become puppets.

THE IMPORTANT STRATEGY OF IBA ALL THESE YEARS IS TO SNATCH EXISTING OR BENEFITS PROVIDED IN STATUTORY REGULATIONS AND AGREEMENTS.

SO BOTH UNIONS AND RETIREES/PENSIONERS SPEND THEIR TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES TO FIGHT FOR BENEFITS ALREADY PROVIDED AND DO NOT HAVE TIME AND PATIENCE TO FIGHT FOR ADDITIONAL BENEFITS.

If we carefully analyze during last 20 years we are fighting for these benefits

1. Gratuity for 6th BPS retirees.

2. 50% Basic Pension and related Commutation arrears.

    and recovery in 15 years after credit of commutation.

3. 5 Years benefit.

4. 100% DA

5. Pension CRS retirees

So we spent 20 years fighting for these benefits which IBA should have provided from Day one of retirement/agreements. Had IBA done so the entire focus of pensioners  would have been on Updation and we would have achieved the same. As RBI employees/retirees got these benefits in normal course they focused on getting updation only and achieved success.

BPS SYSTEM

IBA is adopting same strategy in dealing with 9 militant Unions.

In last BPS 15% Wage revision was settled. So natural justice demands that in XI BPS wage revision is settled at least 18% if not more. But IBA starts from scratch again.

And  9 militant organization is fighting since last 2 years is to at least retain wage revision at last BPS and IBA has created such situation that  demanding even 15% is impossible task.

Wage negotiation for officers covered officers upto scale VII. But IBA suddenly withdraws BPS negotiation for officers V to VII. So officers Unions spend good part of negotiations just fighting for mandate up to Scale VII which was already there in last BPS and celebrating same as historic achievement as IBA agreed to withdraw that condition.

As Unions already exhausted their resources fighting for retaining existing benefits like mandate up to Scale VII and wage revision @15% which were already agreed in last BPS they will not demand anything more.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

The Following Circulars are attached.

1. UFBU Cir No.8 dated 18.09.2019 regarding BPS proceedings of 17th Sep 2019

     between IBA and UFBU

2. Joint Cir No.6 dated 29.09.2019 issued by Four officers organization explaining why 48 hours strike deferred.

Contradictions in two circulars about status of BPS negotiations are glaring and we wonder which is true?

1. PLI- profit linked incentive scheme proposed by IBA.

In its cir dated 18th Sep 2019 UFBU informed as follows

From the UFBU it was informed to them that since the scheme and its cost are over and above the wage revision we agree in principle to discuss further and give our suggestions during the further course of discussions.

But Joint Cir of 4 officers organization claims as follows

The four officers organization have decided not to concede to PLI scheme as it is essentially Bank specific and not going to benefit total workforce in the industry uniformly.

2. UPDATION ISSUE

UFBU cir stated as follows

As regards updation of pension IBA stated this also would entail additional provision to the Pension Fund which needs to be examined in detail. We requested the IBA to provide details of the necessary data so that unions also may work out the cost implication through actuaries before discussing further on the issue.

But Joint Cir of 4 officers organization claims

We also took up revision of family pension and updation with facts and figures.

We wonder where did they got facts and figures when they did not have anything on 17th and decided to go for actuaries to find facts and figures.

However in Joint Cir they have given us some hope by stating

At the same time, no stone will be left unturned to realise all our
genuine demands including wage revision and improvement of service conditions and also the superannuation
benefits.
We hope this is true and they keep up promise

[Kanak Ghosh]

Dear Ashok

Where exactly are we on the implementation of the 28/08 /2019 judgment?

Things appear so obfuscated, and bloggers just as headless chickens.

Is there any way other than

contempt action?

Needless to say, we are losing invaluable time.

Kind regards.

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

The  retirees are least interested in the controversial circulars  issued by UFBU. We are concerned about our pending issues like updation of pension on RBI lines.To what extent the UFBU can fight for updation of pension etc  is only our concern. Let us not scratch our heads and waste our time on controversy subject .

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mr.Satyanarayana Rao

Such contradictions directly affects us. This raises doubt whether they are actually raising updation issue in BPS or simply mentioning in Circulars that IBA said cost to be examined etc. This clearly shows how much they can fight for updation.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

We thought IBA is master in twisting pension regulations/Agreements according its whims and fancies. But AIBRF has better skills than IBA.

AIBRF Stand on commutation recovery vide its letter dated 2018/058 Dt.16.06.2018

We therefore request IBA to issue specific guidelines to member
banks to give proper treatment to this aspect and pay the
arrears along with applicable interest to implement Supreme
Court decision as per its tenor and spirit. It will not be out of
place to draw your kind attention on the fact that as per the
extended provisions in the Central Civil Pension Rules and as
per earlier communication issued by IBA in the matter,
arrears paid on account of commutation are recoverable from the

pension in future after date of payment

AND COMPLETE U TURN VIDE ITS LETTER TO AICBRF  DATED 29.06.2018

1. IBA stand of recovering commutation in one lump sum is legal and in order.

2.  demanding DA as per Reg 37II is not proper as regulations are amended later on. By this AIBRF

    approves amending Pen reg retrospectively.

3. Still AIBRF arguing that SC has not issued any order to pay commutation arrears in respect of 1616-1684 issue.

No wonder AIBRF last 100% DA in SC.

Both letters attached.

[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

APPEAL FOR COMMUTATION ARREARS/UPDATION OF PENSION/FAMILY PENSION - A CLARIFICATION

Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli <devulapa...@gmail.com>	Mon, 30 Sep, 06:23 (1 day ago)
to N, DITTAKAVI, VISHWANATH, Gopalakrishna, suryanarayana, B, Anjaneya, GAJARAJ, A, Gupta, D, DSSR, GUNDU, sethura...@gmail.com, P, sripathi...@gmail.com, C, N, I, mulbagal, K, K, P, Prabhakara, PRASAD, P, Mohandas, PERUMALJI, R, K, YVG, GANDURI, Siva, M, YELAMANCHILI, bhaskararao, Bhaskara, MOHAN, balaram, Nthegde, Murthy, Subbalakshmi, Achyutuni, Gopal, nelapatifamindays, Rama, asp.raju, Jagannadham, Gangadhara, ramana, plkrao, sambireddy, Venkata, ACHANTA, Badrinath, spgmraj, Kattepogu, Bala, Sastry, Ramesh, mknmkdprasad, V, satyamsamudrala, Subrahmanyam, Habibullah, satya, anoopa_20, Sitaram, saicvrs, B, ejvaddi, srirama_thoram, Shankar, Lakshmi, Kanaka, granga_gangi, Sharanappa, Raghavendra, Abdul, U, Kayar, Ravi, baburao, kvb_20, krishna1949, patel, rkprakhya_2712, venkateswarlu, Srihari, Budhiraju, SIVA, kandul...@yahoo.co.in, satya, kmkmurthy, Ravindranath, Sivaprasad, Sethu, R, koteswara, palagiri_prasad, G, P, adilakshmi, yknanda, Mohinderpal, Cheekoori, K, Ajay, Ranjith, Baba, Babu, Krishna, kastur...@yahoo.co.in, Dingari, Ramesh, PETER, cjreddy, C, Sitaram, Srinivasa, Varanasi, Rama, Palaparthy, Chandra, Ravindranath, VANKADARU, SREENIVASA, SUBRAMANYA, sankarabandi, Venkata, hsharini, K, Sita, vazra, Ramgopal, S, A, R, G, Abdul, M, S, A, Swayam, R, Avs, K, R, N, G, Vutukuri, R, J, V, T, Vijay, Venkata, B, K, D, A, A, vasanth, Raghurama, C, G, c, K, T, K, S, Lakshmi, P, D, N, A, Sreenivasarao, B, E, pvrs, D, A, N, N, V, Mv, Md, K, P, VV, P, M, Kvvssn, U, J, Nagasekhar, K, M, K, D, K, K, Vvsrk, K, P, G, P, A, C, Mdvm, T, PR, S, TKG, M, Durgaprasad, VN, Chittur, Krishna, valluri_a, sambasiva, Ravi, svlssastry, Satyagmail, Sankara, Hema, Rathnam, karlapalem, Ramamurthy, S, satya...@gmail.com, B, VV, A, N, P, P, BVLN, M, Ik, Hanumantharao, K, Mothukuri, MVR, Nagaraju, Narendradev, Ramamohanrao, VV, K, Pulla, ramesh, brk3021, ksgupta1964, Prashanth.s, divyakuna6, Pradyumna, madhusudanarao, dasaradhig, hazarathaiah, velagapati, Doraiswamy, Velayudhan, Georgephilp, Mathew, s1234, J, Anantha, Katari, Venugopal, Annapurna, murali, prasad45dev, Jyothsna, Prabhakar, Sharbat, Yellamrju1949, Janakiram, Narasimharaghavan, Usha, manmohan, RVS, RVS, Balasubrahmanyam, SUBHASH, kkbasu, vijaymehta2709, sspskumar, maskbra, ICICI, iobra1995, lrao44, Central, R, shankarvaze, Shekhar, Swadesh, Sudhakar, Devajit, akula, Ishwar, Prem, dsnpillai1953, mittra_vashu, tksmani01, Sachchidananda, Ranjit, Vinod, Ramakrishna, rdebnath1946, Akshaya, pd, hkka.snchkay, prasadiswar2005, Arati, sushilroy_45, Harish, bspisal44, indrajitbordoli, Suman, ibeudelhi, shah, Murali, bose_1122, yesjayak, jaisheel16, kasturee, VENUGOPALAN, yvsubbarao, bsjoshi1950, Sudhir, B, raveendranath, Balakrishnan, Balbir, mytmat, mukundapa3tikar, anilphadke, satharzarina, jaipalgunmala, pbpathak6, dixitpv_07, Ajai, Jaisinh, Vasuki, APBRF, kalayan.venkatesh, svenkataratnam1946, Srivenkateswarlu, william, siddareddy, Sekhar, Ashok, Subhashchandra, namberumallu, Debesh, Trichur, Aftab, A.SreeRami, sekhar, Narayana, Amnesty, G, Deva, M, VISWANATHANvisu1428, immaneni1951, KRISHNAN, Bankpensioner

PETITION UPDATE

APPEAL FOR COMMUTATION ARREARS/UPDATION OF PENSION/FAMILY PENSION - A CLARIFICATION

Devulapalli Srinivasa Murti

VIJAYAWADA, AP, India

30 SEP 2019 — 

APPEAL LETTER  FOR PAYMENT OF COMMUTATION ARREARS/ENHANCEMENT IN FAMILY PENSION/PENSION UPDATION  IS APPENDED IN THE FOLLOWING LINK/S:   

MY DEAR FRIENDS, 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NUAwEGIXPDto83yd-VP6g2TbU-TXkCgl/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U9lHIOHvK9_OO2R6Iiwt8UHzxPV0K2eG/view?usp=sharing

APPEAL LETTER  FOR PAYMENT OF COMMUTATION ARREARS/ENHANCEMENT IN FAMILY PENSION/PENSION UPDATION  IS APPENDED IN THE ABOVE LINK/S:  

FRIENDS, THE ABOVE  APPEAL LETTER STANDS SUBMITTED .   

YOU MAY ALSO SUBMIT THE SAME  DULY REPLACING THE DETAILS MENTIONED IN THE COLOURED PORTION  AS  PER YOUR REQUIREMENT  VIZ. PERSONAL/ BANK/ BRANCH DETAILS.

ALL RETIREES  OF ALL THE BANKS CAN SUBMIT THE APPEAL SINCE THE 2nd, POINT PERTAINS TO  ENHANCEMENT IN FAMILY PENSION & PENSION UPDATION UNDER REGULATION  35(1) ARE ALSO EXHAUSTIVELY COVERED CITING REFERENCES OF THE VARIOUS COURT JUDGMENTS.

KIND REFERENCE IS INVITED TO THE COMMUNICATION  dtd. 28th. OCTOBER, 2017  ADDRESSED TO THE MINISTRY OF LAW & JUSTICE, GOVT.OF INDIA DIRECTLY,  WHICH PLEASE NOTE. 

PLEASE NOTE THE ABOVE POINT AND MOBILIZE FOR MASS INVOLVEMENT OF   ALL OUR RETIREE BROTHERN  WITH  MORE CLARITY.   

I have already  mailed  my online appeal letter as contained in the above  link/s, to our  Syndicate Bank management   under copy to:
01. Sri Narendra Modi, Hon'ble Prime Minister  &02. Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman, Hon'ble Finance Minister
marking a copy of the same to my pension Paying Branch (#3343 Synd.Bk.Labbipet:Vijayawada Branch)

I have taken out FOUR hard copies of the above online mail to be sent to the above mentioned address by SPEED POST/COURIER.

As it is very much convenient  for me, I have chosen to visit our Labbipet:Vijayawada Branch to  hand over the hard copies in person  with a request  to forward the same to our Head Office. 
   
Kindly  forward your online appeal to me at - devulapa...@gmail.com  unfailingly. 
Also please forward this communication to all your friends for their easy compliance to derive satisfaction of their joining this mass movement. 

With Greetings and Regards,
“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......I remain - Yours,
 దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి       /DevulapalliSrinivasa Murti   

SEPTEMBER 30, 2019 :: VIJAYAWADA-521108 
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NOTE:    YOU MAY SUBMIT THE APPEAL   DULY REPLACING WITH YOUR PERSONAL /BANK/BRANCH DETAILS   AS APPLICABLE TO  YOU INDIVIDUALLY. 
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--

d s murti

[Velayudhan Nair]

Continuing paper bambs?Stop it Sir.I really get bored.Please initiate
some action.



warm reg



CPVNAIR

On 10/1/19, Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli <devulapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> APPEAL FOR COMMUTATION ARREARS/UPDATION OF PENSION/FAMILY PENSION - A
> CLARIFICATION

> Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli <devulapa...@gmail.com>
> Mon, 30 Sep, 06:23 (1 day ago)

> to N, DITTAKAVI, VISHWANATH, Gopalakrishna, suryanarayana, B, Anjaneya,
> GAJARAJ, A, Gupta, D, DSSR, GUNDU, sethura...@gmail.com, P,
> sripathi...@gmail.com, C, N, I, mulbagal, K, K, P, Prabhakara, PRASAD,
> P, Mohandas, PERUMALJI, R, K, YVG, GANDURI, Siva, M, YELAMANCHILI,
> bhaskararao, Bhaskara, MOHAN, balaram, Nthegde, Murthy, Subbalakshmi,
> Achyutuni, Gopal, nelapatifamindays, Rama, asp.raju, Jagannadham,
> Gangadhara

> , ramana, plkrao, sambireddy, Venkata, ACHANTA, Badrinath, spgmraj,

> Kattepogu, Bala, Sastry, Ramesh, mknmkdprasad, V, satyamsamudrala,
> Subrahmanyam, Habibullah, satya, anoopa_20, Sitaram, saicvrs, B, ejvaddi,
> srirama_thoram, Shankar, Lakshmi, Kanaka, granga_gangi, Sharanappa,
> Raghavendra, Abdul, U, Kayar, Ravi, baburao, kvb_20, krishna1949, patel,
> rkprakhya_2712, venkateswarlu, Srihari, Budhiraju, SIVA,
> kandul...@yahoo.co.in, satya, kmkmurthy, Ravindranath, Sivaprasad,
> Sethu

> , R, koteswara, palagiri_prasad, G, P, adilakshmi, yknanda, Mohinderpal,

> Cheekoori, K, Ajay, Ranjith, Baba, Babu, Krishna, kastur...@yahoo.co.in

> , Dingari, Ramesh, PETER, cjreddy, C, Sitaram, Srinivasa, Varanasi, Rama,

> Palaparthy, Chandra, Ravindranath, VANKADARU, SREENIVASA, SUBRAMANYA,
> sankarabandi, Venkata, hsharini, K, Sita, vazra, Ramgopal, S, A, R, G,
> Abdul

> , M, S, A, Swayam, R, Avs, K, R, N, G, Vutukuri, R, J, V, T, Vijay, Venkata
> , B, K, D, A, A, vasanth, Raghurama, C, G, c, K, T, K, S, Lakshmi, P, D, N,

> A, Sreenivasarao, B, E, pvrs, D, A, N, N, V, Mv, Md, K, P, VV, P, M, Kvvssn

> , U, J, Nagasekhar, K, M, K, D, K, K, Vvsrk, K, P, G, P, A, C, Mdvm, T, PR,

> S, TKG, M, Durgaprasad, VN, Chittur, Krishna, valluri_a, sambasiva, Ravi,
> svlssastry, Satyagmail, Sankara, Hema, Rathnam, karlapalem, Ramamurthy, S,
> satya...@gmail.com, B, VV, A, N, P, P, BVLN, M, Ik, Hanumantharao, K,
> Mothukuri, MVR, Nagaraju, Narendradev, Ramamohanrao, VV, K, Pulla, ramesh,
> brk3021, ksgupta1964, Prashanth.s, divyakuna6, Pradyumna, madhusudanarao,
> dasaradhig, hazarathaiah, velagapati, Doraiswamy, Velayudhan, Georgephilp,
> Mathew, s1234, J, Anantha, Katari, Venugopal, Annapurna, murali,
> prasad45dev

> , Jyothsna, Prabhakar, Sharbat, Yellamrju1949, Janakiram, Narasimharaghavan
> , Usha, manmohan, RVS, RVS, Balasubrahmanyam, SUBHASH, kkbasu,

> vijaymehta2709, sspskumar, maskbra, ICICI, iobra1995, lrao44, Central, R,
> shankarvaze, Shekhar, Swadesh, Sudhakar, Devajit, akula, Ishwar, Prem,
> dsnpillai1953, mittra_vashu, tksmani01, Sachchidananda, Ranjit, Vinod,
> Ramakrishna, rdebnath1946, Akshaya, pd, hkka.snchkay, prasadiswar2005,
> Arati

> , sushilroy_45, Harish, bspisal44, indrajitbordoli, Suman, ibeudelhi, shah,

> Murali, bose_1122, yesjayak, jaisheel16, kasturee, VENUGOPALAN, yvsubbarao,
> bsjoshi1950, Sudhir, B, raveendranath, Balakrishnan, Balbir, mytmat,
> mukundapa3tikar, anilphadke, satharzarina, jaipalgunmala, pbpathak6,
> dixitpv_07, Ajai, Jaisinh, Vasuki, APBRF, kalayan.venkatesh,
> svenkataratnam1946, Srivenkateswarlu, william, siddareddy, Sekhar, Ashok,
> Subhashchandra, namberumallu, Debesh, Trichur, Aftab, A.SreeRami, sekhar,
> Narayana, Amnesty, G, Deva, M, VISWANATHANvisu1428, immaneni1951, KRISHNAN,
> Bankpensioner
>

> PETITION UPDATEAPPEAL FOR COMMUTATION ARREARS/UPDATION OF PENSION/FAMILY

> PENSION - A CLARIFICATION
> [image: D S MURTI.jpg]
>
> Devulapalli Srinivasa Murti
> VIJAYAWADA, AP, India
>
> 30 SEP 2019 —
>
>
> APPEAL LETTER FOR PAYMENT OF COMMUTATION ARREARS/ENHANCEMENT IN FAMILY
> PENSION/PENSION UPDATION IS APPENDED IN THE FOLLOWING LINK/S:
>
>
> MY DEAR FRIENDS,
>
>

> *https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NUAwEGIXPDto83yd-VP6g2TbU-TXkCgl/view?usp=sharing
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NUAwEGIXPDto83yd-VP6g2TbU-TXkCgl/view?usp=sharing>*
>
>
> *https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U9lHIOHvK9_OO2R6Iiwt8UHzxPV0K2eG/view?usp=sharing
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U9lHIOHvK9_OO2R6Iiwt8UHzxPV0K2eG/view?usp=sharing>*

>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>

>>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 15:57, JSOMA SHEKARA
>>> <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> IBA is a clever Sutradhar in Banking Industry. It is pulling strings so
>>> cleverly that BPS negotiations system has become ridiculous and childish
>>> and 9 militant Unions and two retiree organizations have become puppets.

>>> *THE IMPORTANT STRATEGY OF IBA ALL THESE YEARS IS TO SNATCH EXISTING OR
>>> BENEFITS PROVIDED IN STATUTORY REGULATIONS AND AGREEMENTS.*
>>>
>>> *SO BOTH UNIONS AND RETIREES/PENSIONERS SPEND THEIR TIME, ENERGY AND

>>> RESOURCES TO FIGHT FOR BENEFITS ALREADY PROVIDED AND DO NOT HAVE TIME
>>> AND

>>> PATIENCE TO FIGHT FOR ADDITIONAL BENEFITS.*
>>> *If we carefully analyze during last 20 years we are fighting for these
>>> benefits*
>>> *1. Gratuity for 6th BPS retirees.*
>>> *2. 50% Basic Pension and related Commutation arrears.*
>>>
>>> * and recovery in 15 years after credit of commutation.*
>>> *3. 5 Years benefit.*
>>> *4. 100% DA*
>>> *5. Pension CRS retirees*
>>> *So we spent 20 years fighting for these benefits which IBA should have

>>> provided from Day one of retirement/agreements. Had IBA done so the
>>> entire
>>> focus of pensioners would have been on Updation and we would have
>>> achieved
>>> the same. As RBI employees/retirees got these benefits in normal course

>>> they focused on getting updation only and achieved success.*
>>> *BPS SYSTEM*
>>> *IBA is adopting same strategy in dealing with 9 militant Unions.*
>>>
>>> *In last BPS 15% Wage revision was settled. So natural justice demands

>>> that in XI BPS wage revision is settled at least 18% if not more. But
>>> IBA

>>> starts from scratch again.*
>>> *And 9 militant organization is fighting since last 2 years is to at

>>> least retain wage revision at last BPS and IBA has created such
>>> situation

>>> that demanding even 15% is impossible task.*
>>>
>>> *Wage negotiation for officers covered officers upto scale VII. But IBA

>>> suddenly withdraws BPS negotiation for officers V to VII. So officers
>>> Unions spend good part of negotiations just fighting for mandate up to
>>> Scale VII which was already there in last BPS and celebrating same as

>>> historic achievement as IBA agreed to withdraw that condition.*
>>>
>>> *As Unions already exhausted their resources fighting for retaining

>>> existing benefits like mandate up to Scale VII and wage revision @15%
>>> which

>>> were already agreed in last BPS they will not demand anything more.*

>>> *Banks should pay 8% interest for delay in crediting pension, arrears:
>>> RBI*
>>>
>>> *All agency banks disbursing pension are advised to provide considerate

>>> and sympathetic customer service to the pensioners, especially to those

>>> pensioners who are of old age*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read more at:
>>>
>>> //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
>>> <https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst>

>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *K V Venkataramana <kvve...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent: *24 September 2019 04:02 PM
>>> *To: *bankpe...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *bankpensioner Commutation arrears

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I retired from Syndicate Bank under SVRS in April 2001. (28 April 2001).
>>> My basic pension is Rs. 7880. Could anyone please tell me what will be
>>> my
>>> commutation arrears.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> K V Venkataramana
>>>
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[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

MY DEAR FRIENDS, 

PAYMENT OF ARREARS OF COMMUTATION - AMBIGUITY vs. CLARITY  

I APPEND HERE  THE COMMUNICATION OF AICBRF FOR THE REFUND OF COMMUTATION RECOVRED BY THE MANAGEMENT OF CANARA BANK AND THE REACTION  FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF AIBRF TO THE ABOVE  AS ANNEXED IN THE FOLLOWING LINK.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bi81zgHR-A0Xl2ZqKKQoBGRAbdVK_d3z/view?usp=sharing

A  FACT FINDING EXERCISE HAS BEEN MADE TO UN-MIST THE LAYER OF AMBIGUITY AND CONFUSION  

THE ORDERS ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR.  THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY INASMUCH AS, THE PAYMENT OF ARREARS OF COMMUTATION TOGETHER WITH INTEREST THEREON  IS A CONSEQUENCE  OF THE  "BLUNDER" COMMITTED BY THE MANAGEMENTS OF THE BANKS BY READING IN BETWEEN THE LINES - A DELIBERATE MISCHIEF ON THEIR PART WHICH STANDS  EXPOSED / CORRECTED BY THE HON'BLE SUPREME COURT THROUGH THEIR JUDGMENT IN THE CONTEMPT PETITION FILED BY SBM COMMUNE. 

 IT HAS NEVER BEEN MY INTENTION TO HURT ANYBODY AT ANY POINT OF TIME,   BUT AT THE SAME TIME I CAN NOT KEEP QUIET  DESPITE THE FACTS WHICH SPEAK BY THEMSELVES IN CRYSTAL CLEAR  AND WHEN  SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG  GLARINGLY  ... TRUTH IS ALWAYS APPARENT  & INDELIBLE.  

I DARE NOT  TO CONFUSE ANYBODY ,  WHEN I CAN HARDLY CONVINCE OTHERS !

IT REMINDS ME OF THE WELL KNOWN SANSKRIT SAYING - 

"यदार्ध वादी - लोक विरोधि "  
"IS IGNORANCE A BLISS....???"

With Greetings and Regards,
“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......I remain - Yours,

  దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి     /Devulapalli Srinivasa Murti.
 OCTOBER 01, 2019 - VIJAYAWADA   521108 :: 998931830

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GFnTDb4Ew8

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[Asok Bhaumik]

It is known that Mr. S C Jain is a retired GM. So no wonder that he will side with IBA.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Mr.Velayudhan Sir, I full agree with your views. You have started a new mission. Already few pensioners have agreed to contribute the same. I am sure more will join as days go by. So filing WP in HC may not be a problem.

But hardest part is preparing flawless case and arguments so that this should not end up  like 100% DA case.

AIBRF which monitored and also part of 100% DA case in SC all along was assuring that arguments were good and former CJ who argued on behalf of AIBRF has also assured us that judgement will be positive. But result was negative.

Lawyers should be briefed properly and all data including cost data, documents have to be collected and provided to advocates.Let this may take one or two months. But case should be presented without flaws.

We may have to take opinion and advice of experts inside Banking Industry and also eminent advocates.

First our focus should be on presenting case.

Then contributions and legal action will follow.

This is just my opinion.

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[Velayudhan Nair]

Yes JSji.We have to seek the help of Shri C N prasad, who is an expert
in the matter.





warm reg



CPVNAIR

>> *https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bi81zgHR-A0Xl2ZqKKQoBGRAbdVK_d3z/view?usp=sharing
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bi81zgHR-A0Xl2ZqKKQoBGRAbdVK_d3z/view?usp=sharing>*

>>
>>
>> A FACT FINDING EXERCISE HAS BEEN MADE TO UN-MIST THE LAYER OF AMBIGUITY
>> AND CONFUSION
>>
>>
>> THE ORDERS ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR. THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY INASMUCH AS, THE
>> PAYMENT OF ARREARS OF COMMUTATION TOGETHER WITH INTEREST THEREON IS A
>> CONSEQUENCE OF THE "BLUNDER" COMMITTED BY THE MANAGEMENTS OF THE BANKS
>> BY READING IN BETWEEN THE LINES - A DELIBERATE MISCHIEF ON THEIR PART
>> WHICH
>> STANDS EXPOSED / CORRECTED BY THE HON'BLE SUPREME COURT THROUGH THEIR
>> JUDGMENT IN THE CONTEMPT PETITION FILED BY SBM COMMUNE.
>>
>> IT HAS NEVER BEEN MY INTENTION TO HURT ANYBODY AT ANY POINT OF TIME,
>> BUT AT THE SAME TIME I CAN NOT KEEP QUIET DESPITE THE FACTS WHICH SPEAK
>> BY THEMSELVES IN CRYSTAL CLEAR AND WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG
>> GLARINGLY ... TRUTH IS ALWAYS APPARENT & INDELIBLE.
>>
>> I DARE NOT TO CONFUSE ANYBODY , WHEN I CAN HARDLY CONVINCE OTHERS !
>>
>> IT REMINDS ME OF THE WELL KNOWN SANSKRIT SAYING -
>>
>> "यदार्ध वादी - लोक विरोधि "
>> "IS IGNORANCE A BLISS....???"
>>
>> With Greetings and Regards,
>> “|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......I remain - Yours,
>> దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి /Devulapalli Srinivasa Murti.
>> OCTOBER 01, 2019 - VIJAYAWADA 521108 :: 998931830
>>

>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GFnTDb4Ew8
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GFnTDb4Ew8>*

>>
>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 10:04, JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We thought IBA is master in twisting pension regulations/Agreements
>>> according its whims and fancies. But AIBRF has better skills than IBA.
>>> AIBRF Stand on commutation recovery vide its letter dated 2018/058
>>> Dt.16.06.2018
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>> *We therefore request IBA to issue specific guidelines to memberbanks to
>>> give proper treatment to this aspect and pay thearrears along with
>>> applicable interest to implement SupremeCourt decision as per its tenor
>>> and
>>> spirit. It will not be out ofplace to draw your kind attention on the
>>> fact
>>> that as per theextended provisions in the Central Civil Pension Rules
>>> and
>>> asper earlier communication issued by IBA in the matter,arrears paid on
>>> account of commutation are recoverable from the*
>>> *pension in future after date of payment*

>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>

>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 15:57, JSOMA SHEKARA
>>>>> <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> IBA is a clever Sutradhar in Banking Industry. It is pulling strings
>>>>> so
>>>>> cleverly that BPS negotiations system has become ridiculous and
>>>>> childish
>>>>> and 9 militant Unions and two retiree organizations have become
>>>>> puppets.

>>>>> *THE IMPORTANT STRATEGY OF IBA ALL THESE YEARS IS TO SNATCH EXISTING
>>>>> OR
>>>>> BENEFITS PROVIDED IN STATUTORY REGULATIONS AND AGREEMENTS.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *SO BOTH UNIONS AND RETIREES/PENSIONERS SPEND THEIR TIME, ENERGY AND

>>>>> RESOURCES TO FIGHT FOR BENEFITS ALREADY PROVIDED AND DO NOT HAVE TIME
>>>>> AND

>>>>> PATIENCE TO FIGHT FOR ADDITIONAL BENEFITS.*
>>>>> *If we carefully analyze during last 20 years we are fighting for
>>>>> these

>>>>> benefits*
>>>>> *1. Gratuity for 6th BPS retirees.*
>>>>> *2. 50% Basic Pension and related Commutation arrears.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * and recovery in 15 years after credit of commutation.*
>>>>> *3. 5 Years benefit.*
>>>>> *4. 100% DA*
>>>>> *5. Pension CRS retirees*

>>>>> *So we spent 20 years fighting for these benefits which IBA should

>>>>> have
>>>>> provided from Day one of retirement/agreements. Had IBA done so the
>>>>> entire
>>>>> focus of pensioners would have been on Updation and we would have
>>>>> achieved
>>>>> the same. As RBI employees/retirees got these benefits in normal
>>>>> course

>>>>> they focused on getting updation only and achieved success.*
>>>>> *BPS SYSTEM*
>>>>> *IBA is adopting same strategy in dealing with 9 militant Unions.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *In last BPS 15% Wage revision was settled. So natural justice demands

>>>>> that in XI BPS wage revision is settled at least 18% if not more. But
>>>>> IBA

>>>>> starts from scratch again.*
>>>>> *And 9 militant organization is fighting since last 2 years is to at

>>>>> least retain wage revision at last BPS and IBA has created such
>>>>> situation

>>>>> that demanding even 15% is impossible task.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wage negotiation for officers covered officers upto scale VII. But

>>>>> IBA
>>>>> suddenly withdraws BPS negotiation for officers V to VII. So officers
>>>>> Unions spend good part of negotiations just fighting for mandate up to
>>>>> Scale VII which was already there in last BPS and celebrating same as

>>>>> historic achievement as IBA agreed to withdraw that condition.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *As Unions already exhausted their resources fighting for retaining

>>>>> existing benefits like mandate up to Scale VII and wage revision @15%
>>>>> which

>>>>> were already agreed in last BPS they will not demand anything more.*

>>>>> *Banks should pay 8% interest for delay in crediting pension, arrears:
>>>>> RBI*
>>>>>
>>>>> *All agency banks disbursing pension are advised to provide

>>>>> considerate
>>>>> and sympathetic customer service to the pensioners, especially to
>>>>> those

>>>>> pensioners who are of old age*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read more at:
>>>>>
>>>>> //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

>>>>> <https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst>

>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>>> Windows 10
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *K V Venkataramana <kvve...@gmail.com>

>>>>> *Sent: *24 September 2019 04:02 PM
>>>>> *To: *bankpe...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject: *bankpensioner Commutation arrears

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I retired from Syndicate Bank under SVRS in April 2001. (28 April
>>>>> 2001). My basic pension is Rs. 7880. Could anyone please tell me what
>>>>> will
>>>>> be my commutation arrears.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> K V Venkataramana
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[Gopalakrishnan Ramachandran]

Shri Prasad is already on the job and I agree with him that there is no need for another outfit now. Let us give shoulder to him in the fight and time is not far off, another CMD may be called to apologize. Let us wait for some more time as forming a new outfit is not a joke and requires a lot of spadework. And it is difficult to start from the scratch and instead support Shri Prasad who is already on the job.

G Ramachandran

CB-SVRS.

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[Anantharaman Tg]

Having taken up the post of GS of the Association

it is expected of him to safeguard the  interests of

its members and set right the problems that crop

every now and then. That is doing justice to the post

he holds.

Anantharaman

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[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

My Dear Friends,

My Dear Friends,

I am happy to share with you all ,  that our Management seem to have positively responded  and the process of calculation  for the  payment of arrears are in progress.  

Under the circumstances, all the eligible retirees ( 01 04 98 - 30 04 2005)  who received the 1616-1684 DA arrears last year  are now bound to receive much more than what they  had received already.

I am happy that all our efforts  through this 18-year long legal battle  are now bearing the fruits.... Thanks to Com. C N Prasad  who is  instrumental in filing the Contempt Petition besides all those valiant comrades who fought the legal battle for over 18 long years. 

 I once again express my Regards and greetings to Com. C N Prasad and other comrades who fought on the legal front .....and  I pray ......
Kanaka Durga Matha , abode "Indrakeelaadri - Vijayawada"  to Shower Her Choicest Blessings on all of us for peace and prosperity on this Auspicious Dassehara Festival.

With Greetings and Regards,
“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......

I remain -Yours,  

దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి /Devulapalli Srinivasa Murti. 

 OCTOBER 03, 2019 - VIJAYAWADA   521108 :: 998931830

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[natarajan pv]

Sir,

You are from which bk ?

THANKS AND REGARDS,

P.V.NATARAJAN.‌
9445021712.

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[Velayudhan Nair]

So, now you are happy.How about other banks?Are you really interested
in the total welfare of retirees?Why are you still engaged in such
useless posts?

If your bank is prepared to pay,why don't you venture into similar efforts.

Stop sparing some words and instead, plunge into action.



warm reg


CPVNAIR

On 10/3/19, Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli <devulapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *My Dear Friends,My Dear Friends,I am happy to share with you all , that

> our Management seem to have positively responded and the process of

> calculation for the payment of arrears are in progress. *
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> *Under the circumstances, all the eligible retirees ( 01 04 98 - 30 04

> 2005) who received the 1616-1684 DA arrears last year are now bound to

> receive much more than what they had received already.I am happy that all

> our efforts through this 18-year long legal battle are now bearing the
> fruits.... Thanks to Com. C N Prasad who is instrumental in filing the
> Contempt Petition besides all those valiant comrades who fought the legal
> battle for over 18 long years. I once again express my Regards and
> greetings to Com. C N Prasad and other comrades who fought on the legal

> front .....and I pray ......Kanaka Durga Matha , abode "Indrakeelaadri -

> Vijayawada" to Shower Her Choicest Blessings on all of us for peace and

> prosperity on this Auspicious Dassehara Festival.With Greetings and
> Regards,“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE......I remain

> -Yours, దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి /Devulapalli Srinivasa Murti. OCTOBER

> 03, 2019 - VIJAYAWADA 521108 :: 998931830*

>
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 16:02, Anantharaman Tg <tganant...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Having taken up the post of GS of the Association
>> it is expected of him to safeguard the interests of
>> its members and set right the problems that crop
>> every now and then. That is doing justice to the post
>> he holds.
>>
>> Anantharaman
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 09:37, Asok Bhaumik <arpanent...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is known that Mr. S C Jain is a retired GM. So no wonder that he will
>>> side with IBA.
>>>
>>> On Wed 2 Oct, 2019 10:04 JSOMA SHEKARA, <jsomase...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We thought IBA is master in twisting pension regulations/Agreements
>>>> according its whims and fancies. But AIBRF has better skills than IBA.
>>>> AIBRF Stand on commutation recovery vide its letter dated 2018/058
>>>> Dt.16.06.2018
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>>>> *We therefore request IBA to issue specific guidelines to memberbanks
>>>> to
>>>> give proper treatment to this aspect and pay thearrears along with
>>>> applicable interest to implement SupremeCourt decision as per its tenor
>>>> and
>>>> spirit. It will not be out ofplace to draw your kind attention on the
>>>> fact
>>>> that as per theextended provisions in the Central Civil Pension Rules
>>>> and
>>>> asper earlier communication issued by IBA in the matter,arrears paid on
>>>> account of commutation are recoverable from the*
>>>> *pension in future after date of payment*

>>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>

>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 15:57, JSOMA SHEKARA
>>>>>> <jsomase...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> IBA is a clever Sutradhar in Banking Industry. It is pulling strings
>>>>>> so cleverly that BPS negotiations system has become ridiculous and
>>>>>> childish
>>>>>> and 9 militant Unions and two retiree organizations have become
>>>>>> puppets.

>>>>>> *THE IMPORTANT STRATEGY OF IBA ALL THESE YEARS IS TO SNATCH EXISTING
>>>>>> OR BENEFITS PROVIDED IN STATUTORY REGULATIONS AND AGREEMENTS.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *SO BOTH UNIONS AND RETIREES/PENSIONERS SPEND THEIR TIME, ENERGY AND

>>>>>> RESOURCES TO FIGHT FOR BENEFITS ALREADY PROVIDED AND DO NOT HAVE TIME
>>>>>> AND

>>>>>> PATIENCE TO FIGHT FOR ADDITIONAL BENEFITS.*
>>>>>> *If we carefully analyze during last 20 years we are fighting for
>>>>>> these benefits*
>>>>>> *1. Gratuity for 6th BPS retirees.*
>>>>>> *2. 50% Basic Pension and related Commutation arrears.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * and recovery in 15 years after credit of commutation.*
>>>>>> *3. 5 Years benefit.*
>>>>>> *4. 100% DA*
>>>>>> *5. Pension CRS retirees*

>>>>>> *So we spent 20 years fighting for these benefits which IBA should

>>>>>> have provided from Day one of retirement/agreements. Had IBA done so
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> entire focus of pensioners would have been on Updation and we would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> achieved the same. As RBI employees/retirees got these benefits in
>>>>>> normal

>>>>>> course they focused on getting updation only and achieved success.*
>>>>>> *BPS SYSTEM*
>>>>>> *IBA is adopting same strategy in dealing with 9 militant Unions.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *In last BPS 15% Wage revision was settled. So natural justice

>>>>>> demands
>>>>>> that in XI BPS wage revision is settled at least 18% if not more. But
>>>>>> IBA

>>>>>> starts from scratch again.*
>>>>>> *And 9 militant organization is fighting since last 2 years is to at

>>>>>> least retain wage revision at last BPS and IBA has created such
>>>>>> situation

>>>>>> that demanding even 15% is impossible task.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Wage negotiation for officers covered officers upto scale VII. But

>>>>>> IBA suddenly withdraws BPS negotiation for officers V to VII. So
>>>>>> officers
>>>>>> Unions spend good part of negotiations just fighting for mandate up
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Scale VII which was already there in last BPS and celebrating same as

>>>>>> historic achievement as IBA agreed to withdraw that condition.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *As Unions already exhausted their resources fighting for retaining

>>>>>> existing benefits like mandate up to Scale VII and wage revision @15%
>>>>>> which

>>>>>> were already agreed in last BPS they will not demand anything more.*

>>>>>> *Banks should pay 8% interest for delay in crediting pension,
>>>>>> arrears:
>>>>>> RBI*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *All agency banks disbursing pension are advised to provide

>>>>>> considerate and sympathetic customer service to the pensioners,
>>>>>> especially

>>>>>> to those pensioners who are of old age*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read more at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

>>>>>> <https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/71202204.cms?from=mdr&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst>

>>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>>>> Windows 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *K V Venkataramana <kvve...@gmail.com>

>>>>>> *Sent: *24 September 2019 04:02 PM
>>>>>> *To: *bankpe...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> *Subject: *bankpensioner Commutation arrears

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I retired from Syndicate Bank under SVRS in April 2001. (28 April
>>>>>> 2001). My basic pension is Rs. 7880. Could anyone please tell me what
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be my commutation arrears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K V Venkataramana
>>>>>>
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[Chandrasekaran Venkataraman]

Which bank is in the process of computing commutation arrears?

Regards

V.Chandrasekaran

A pre 2002 PNB retiree

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[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

Dear Sri Natarajan garu,


I am from Syndicate Bank sir.  for more details, please click the following link::

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1alevse1IfQpwTZt5ZtUZNkYZi7t1SHnn/view?usp=sharing

Regards,

D S Murti. 

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[natarajan pv]

Tku.

Glad to know syndicate bank is  in the process of paying the commutation arrears.

Please inform once paid.

THANKS AND REGARDS,

P.V.NATARAJAN.‌
9445021712.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 13:17, Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli

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[Metlapalli Sharma]

sri Nair,

sri DS murthy is one among the petitioners who fought for 1616-1684 re fixation. He is a man of action only and one among those who brought this benefit to pre 2002 pensioners after 18 long years' of struggle without the support of unions.  you are befittingly harsh. please spare sympathies for him.

sarma

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[Prk Murthy]

Thank you so much Murthy garu for the unrelented legal struggle you made on  behalf of all of us . We fully support you in your future endeavours for the benefit of all the retiree commune.

P Ramakrishnamurthy

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[Pratima Ghosh]

Respected Mr. Prasad and others,

I am a family pensioner, my husband expired on 20th January, 2017. He was a VRS optee from 2001 from Bank of Baroda. He took pension under the Second Pension option in 2010. Is he (or in relation am I) eligible for this commutation arrears? Due to my age constraints I am unable to understand all these regulations and whether or not Second option pension optees are eligible for this commutation arrears or not. Just for your information no arrears were paid towards me for the last case of 1616-1684, citing the reason that for Second pension optees it was already fixed and paid at 1684 points. Is this commutation the same, Second pension optees are not eligible?

Following are the details of my husband:

Date of Birth- 08/06/1947

Date of Joining- 19/05/1971

Date of Retirement- 31/03/2001

Service Duration- 29 Years, 10 Months

I am also attaching the photograph of the aforesaid document herewith for your convenience.

Kindly confirm whether any commutation arrears is payable towards me.

Regards,

Pratima Ghosh

[Metlapalli Sharma]

metlapa...@gmail.comunbefittingly

[Velayudhan Nair]

Is there any retirees outfit in BOB?If it is active, then why this
respected Madam approaches this site?Very bad BOB retirees outfit in
BOB.When a member of yours passes away, the spouse should become an
automatic member.

Heard that SBIPA gives dual membership to the
retirees.(Retiree+spouse).If every outfit thinks thus, then the
spouses will have a protection.Mind you, this could happen any day to
all of us.



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[Satyanarayana Rao]

Shri C.P.Nair is very active member of this blog so also Shri  Murphy  garu.The important point is we have to be mutually respect each other and vent our opinions on issues pertaining to our issues. There fore there is no need to make personal comments on any individual and his views. Let us continue to respect each other and share knowledge of each one and concentrate to have common approach for the welfare of our friends.Hope the learned members will be kind enough to respect each other while sharing their knowledge and avoide personal reference to any individual be soft to all.With regards. 

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[Kishalaya Mukherjee]

Pratima Ghosh

Madam

Your pension had been fixed at 1684 points from the beginning as your husband had accepted pension on second option. So, there is no question of arrears for the difference between 1116  and 1684. Similarly, there is no difference of commutation due to that.

You can verify this from your worksheet. 

Your starting basic pension was 5561/- and one-third of 5561 is 1853/- on which you have received as your commuted value. But the commutation factor (8.82) is much less than what it should actually be. But that's a different matter. 

In short, those who got less than one third commutation are eligible to get the difference. 

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

As per SC Judgement dt.28.8.2019 pension optees of 2010 under second option of pension are also
entitled to receive commutation arrears. I think SC ruling in case of of pensioner's death will apply
in this case since original pensioner died and you being family pensioner. I am referring your case to
our legal expert Mr.K.R.Ganesh Rao for his views and reply.

Debasish Mukherjee,
BOB retiree,
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C.C. Mr.Ganesh Rao, Kindly provide with your views as Mrs.Ghosh is the widow of our late colleague.

On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:05:46 +0530 Pratima Ghosh wrote

>Respected Mr. Prasad and others,
I am a family pensioner, my husband expired on 20th January, 2017. He was a VRS optee from 2001 from
Bank of Baroda. He took pension under the Second Pension option in 2010. Is he (or in relation am I)
eligible for this commutation arrears? Due to my age constraints I am unable to understand all these
regulations and whether or not Second option pension optees are eligible for this commutation arrears
or not. Just for your information no arrears were paid towards me for the last case of 1616-1684,
citing the reason that for Second pension optees it was already fixed and paid at 1684 points. Is this
commutation the same, Second pension optees are not eligible?

Following are the details of my husband:

Date of Birth- 08/06/1947Date of Joining- 19/05/1971Date of Retirement- 31/03/2001Service Duration- 29

Years, 10 Months
I am also attaching the photograph of the aforesaid document herewith for your convenience.
Kindly confirm whether any commutation arrears is payable towards me.

Regards,Pratima Ghosh

[Prasad C N]

Dear friends,

I would like to share an information regarding retirees outfit and its leaders.  One of the tallest leader from Karnataka of a largest bank retirees organisation commented that 

'we want to resolve issues by having discussions with management, but SBM Pensioners Commune leaders go to Supreme Court'.

We fought, won and got benefits.  But, leaders are still discussing.

Thanks, a Million. 

With regards, 

Prasad C N

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[Velayudhan Nair]

Hi all,
Everybody is dear and respectable to me.Nobody need respect me.

Having said this, whoever anybody be, simply writing letters will not
help us.We have to act.Only legal.Nobody will help us.I know that
litigation would take more time.But that does not mean that these anti
retiree forces be spared.So I repeat, I do not deserve any respect as
I fight for me too.A very tall person stands before me.We call him C N
Prasadji.Let us all respect him.He is the pride of bank retirees.


w arm reg



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[Nagaraju Kakani]

Sairam  Sri Mukharjee, I have come in some of the group discussions in this group that the SC judgement says the commutation factor to be based on the date of retirement age but not based on the age at the time of payment/commutation. If this is correct ,then almost all 2 ND pension optees will get benefit, because for all of them the factor bass on the age in 2010 was considered instead of the age at the retirement. 

Please clarify Sir, it will help all the 2 ND option pension optees. 

With regards, 

Kakani Nagaraju, 

Ex BOI, Hyderabad. 

2000 SVRS Retiree/2 nd Option 2009 Pensioner. 

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[Narendra Khutate]

I agree with you and your team

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

The so called leader should introspect himself the achievements made so for through negotiations eaither by UFBU or other outfits sofor.Let him continue negotiations and deliver justice to all eligible beneficiaries of Supreme court orders in contempt proceedings and DR at 1148 points with out making reference to our ongoing fight against the unwilling and indifferent bank managements who still refuse to accept and implement highest court orders to all eligible similarly placed beneficiaries .Let us ignore such waste fellows and carry on our legal battle against banks till the court judgement favouring us is totally implemented word by word and letter by letter. 

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

I fully agree with you and we also cherish and respect and love as you do for us.There is no doubt about C.N.Prasad beeing held in high esteem which he rightly and richly deserves. This he earned it it through his commitment for the welfare and fighting for the cause of retirees wherever the bank management distorted  and respect  and implement pension regulations. The results what we see through Supreme court order upholding karnataka high court order and further  passing one more order in contempt proceedings is shining example of his success story .Now  he is continuously holding meetings in different centers educating retirees about  the benefits of Supreme court order and how much  the retirees have to get by way  of commutation arrears and DR arrears and there by howmuch increase in pension etc.He is also holding retirees meeting at Hyderabad also on 16th of this month. That is the hard work and his commitment towards the welfare of his retirees friends. Let us wish him all success in his relentless efforts in getting justice to all aggrieved members. 

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[Kishalaya Mukherjee]

Not only the commutation factor but the actual  pension should have been started from the date of retirement from the second pension optees.  From the representation of Sm. Pratima Ghosh it is evident that although her husband retired on 31/3/2001, he received pension with effect from 27/11/2009. 

His age at retirement and commutation factor was taken as 64 and 8.82 in place of 54 and 12.05 respectively, thereby making him poorer by 71782/.

I think these are clearly in contravention with the Pension Regulation Act,1995. 

 It's also learnt that Banks have charged penal interest at a flat rate of 56% on the PF refund amount, irrespective of date of retirement of the pensioner. If it's true, then it's a severe punishment for the pensioner who retired just before excercising his/her pension option. 

I don't know whether there are any cases pending before the court challenging this  agreement. 

 It's true that IBA wouldn't have agreed to the second pension offer without those preconditions.  But, now it's time to lodge writ petition against the banks for violating the terms and conditions of Pension Regulation Act, 1995. 

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[mohan p]

01.It is a fact that,for those who opted second option on pension,monthly  pension was paid w.e.f 27.11.2009,and not from date of retirement.

02.Commutation factor was   taken based on date of availment and not based on actual date of retirement.

03.Yes.There are cases pending in different high courts of the country,as of now,filed  by few such second pension optees,against collection of 56% of PF

contribution by banks( 2.8 times of salary from serving employees too)

04.As per information available no verdict have been found pronounced by courts  in such cases so far.

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[Padam Singh]

Respected sir  , I am retired under svrs 2001 from sbbj with 18 years service. I opted pension when pension scheme was implemented. Bank paid my pension and arrears from 27.11.2009 to 29.2.2016 on 14.3.2016 considering me second pension optee. I requested bank that I am pension optee since pension scheme was implemented. Bank paid my pension and arrears from 1.4.2001 to 26.11.2009 on 1.1.2017 .How I can know whether I am eligible for 1616.1684 da diff arrears as per SC order dated 13.2.2018 and 28.8.2019 because I didn't get any arrears. Please reply sir. 

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[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

Dear P.M Jee,

What you are telling is absolutely correct. Banks Mandatory , the so called IBA AND UFBU for both Bank Employees  Unions and Officer's Association are played havoc in the Pension Field. All Courts told that both IBA AND UFBU/ OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION have no Statutory FORCE TO MEDDLE THE PENSION REGULATION 1995. But both played a long series of games and now look at for just 615 SBMPC PETITIONERS , THEY PAID INTEREST ALONE FIVE CRORES AND SEVENTY LAKHS . TO WHOM SHOULD BE FIXED THE RENSPOSABLITY FOR THIS AND THEY SHOULD BE PUNSHIBLE , IS IT NOT ???AT WHOSE FAULT SUCH A HUGE INTEREST IS HAPPENED TO BE PAID BY THE BANK. IF YOU CALCULATE THE INTEREST PAID BY ALL THE BANKS AND YET TO PAY IN THE FORM OF COMMUTATION ARREARS INTEREST AND D.A RELIEF.INTEREST BY ALL BANKS. THE GAME IS NOT OVER AND THEY HAVE YET TO SEE THE MAIN FILM , as quoted by our 'BELOVED C.N.PRASAD Jee . THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD FIX THE ROOT CAUSER FOR ALL  THESE THINGS HAPPENED. Not following as per the Pension Reg. and  fixing Basic Pension not taking the date of  retirement for calculation purpose , fixing by going back many years for fixing D.A at 1616 PTS. instead of  1148 PTS. , Denying five years benefits, calculating commutation and D.A on their own will by Amending the P.R THRO ' JOINTS NOTE  etc... And again by making plunder mistakes by not fixing the basic Pension from the date of Retirement for the second Pension optees and fixing D .A under tapered formula are all shows their Strength and arrgoncy and they think that they are super human and no one can stop them and what ever way they want and they can do on their whims not even govt.come in their way. At present this is what is going on and on. What we don't understand is how these things are happening by isolating both the govt. and the Banks . Stil they have not learn any lessons out of these outcomes and still they are going on their path with out carrying any bodies , I mean including Hon'ble. Supreme court. The Affidavit filed by the Bank speaks their capabilities of doing anything and not carrying the APEX COURT'S ORDER. so.. God only save us from this IBA and UFBU.

With regards,

R P R

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[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

I have written this forward message at 9.15 A.M to day ( 08.10.2019). But it came late because  I think after scrutiny of our Google group Head. I may stop if it happens again because I want to write and then and there I want to share some of the facts happening now and then to our commune. Any how with this I stop...may not interested by our Google group Head...

[Subramanian K]

Yes.accountability should be fixed and the amount recovered from the pocket of cmd  gm etc.

K subramanian United bank vrs 2001

9444971987

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Dear P.M Jee,

What you are telling is absolutely correct. Banks Mandatory , the so called IBA AND UFBU for both Bank Employees  Unions and Officer's Association are played havoc in the Pension Field. All Courts told that both IBA AND UFBU/ OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION have no Statutory FORCE TO MEDDLE THE PENSION REGULATION 1995. But both played a long series of games and now look at for just 615 SBMPC PETITIONERS , THEY PAID INTEREST ALONE FIVE CRORES AND SEVENTY LAKHS . TO WHOM SHOULD BE FIXED THE RENSPOSABLITY FOR THIS AND THEY SHOULD BE PUNSHIBLE , IS IT NOT ???AT WHOSE FAULT SUCH A HUGE INTEREST IS HAPPENED TO BE PAID BY THE BANK. IF YOU CALCULATE THE INTEREST PAID BY ALL THE BANKS AND YET TO PAY IN THE FORM OF COMMUTATION ARREARS INTEREST AND D.A RELIEF.INTEREST BY ALL BANKS. THE GAME IS NOT OVER AND THEY HAVE YET TO SEE THE MAIN FILM , as quoted by our 'BELOVED C.N.PRASAD Jee . THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD FIX THE ROOT CAUSER FOR ALL  THESE THINGS HAPPENED. Not following as per the Pension Reg. and  fixing Basic Pension not taking the date of  retirement for calculation purpose , fixing by going back many years for fixing D.A at 1616 PTS. instead of  1148 PTS. , Denying five years benefits, calculating commutation and D.A on their own will by Amending the P.R THRO ' JOINTS NOTE  etc... And again by making plunder mistakes by not fixing the basic Pension from the date of Retirement for the second Pension optees and fixing D .A under tapered formula are all shows their Strength and arrgoncy and they think that they are super human and no one can stop them and what ever way they want and they can do on their whims not even govt.come in their way. At present this is what is going on and on. What we don't understand is how these things are happening by isolating both the govt. and the Banks . Stil they have not learn any lessons out of these outcomes and still they are going on their path with out carrying any bodies , I mean including Hon'ble. Supreme court. The Affidavit filed by the Bank speaks their capabilities of doing anything and not carrying the APEX COURT'S ORDER. so.. God only save us from this IBA and UFBU.

With regards,

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[KLRao,ResourcePerson]

Mrs Ghosh, Namashkar. My greetings on the occasion of Vijaydasami. I  may not be able to clarify you regarding commutation arrears.                              But I would like to suggest you to write to mrs Nirmala sitharaman , honorable Finance minister telling her the hardships undergone by one lac ladies drawing family pension ,which is a small amount. It may kindly be enhanced at par with RBI family pensioners at an early date .

You may appeal her by e mail and also by letter posted to her postal address.

Kindly suggest any other family pensioner , of any bank.

Best regards.

K.LakshmanRao

Retired from Indian Bank in 2009 

Camp@Gurgaon

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

Where is the accountability?At what levels and who can fix accountability?,Every body will  transfer the bucks from to to lower level .That is why the banking industry is in very bad shape and what ever profits are earned are eaten by Npas.The unions are colliding with top executives and deriving the banks to loss making banks. The political power is playing havoc with im the loans sanctions to big corporate bodies and they get funding for their elections .The banking industry is reeling in vicious circle .It is very difficult to repair the system .As for as retirees are concerned we have to get the justice and legally eligible benefits through court orders. The irony is the banks officials are playing mischief and don't implement the court order to all .This is the hight of audacity by concerned authorities which is to be brought to books by associations and see that culprits are punished and justice is delivered. It is in this direction the SBM commune members and their leadership is moving .The partial  results are witnessed as trailer and abhi the picture baki hai.We are curiously waiting for the quick release of picture and the director Shri  C.N. Prasad is working hard for early release of benefits to all eligible beneficiaries. 

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[Padam Singh]

Sir, has the issue of 37.2.b da finished or alive, Is there any chance for the poor retirees. Because only this solution can help all pensioners due to good increase in monthly pension also. 

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[Velayudhan Nair]

Dear Padam Singh, there should be an end of UFBU.Then only retirees
would have some relief.Wait for the natural death of anti bank retiree
UFBU.


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>>> It's also learnt that Banks have charged penal interest *at a flat rate
>>> of 56% *on the PF refund amount, *irrespective of date of retirement of
>>> the pensioner*. If it's true, then it's a severe punishment for the

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[Shrinivas Parkar]

I feel that issue of 37.2.b da is not finished. finished. 

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[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

My Dear Friends,

PENDING CURATIVE PETITION # 243/2019 OF15 02 2019 IN SUPREME COURT                                                                               

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Adverting to the above,  I enclose my reply  in response to the phone call of Com. Kasturi Rangan who filed Curative Petition recently  along with Com. Debesh Bahattacharyji & Com. G.Palani garu.  

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xOQUrWDFf5eoLN8_Mhr0rLB1iNTnF9gi/view?usp=sharing

The Contents are self-explict.
“|| यतो धर्मस्ततो जयः ||” IS THE ULTIMATE !
With Greetings and Regards,
I remain – Yours,

 దేవులపల్లి శ్రీనివాస మూర్తి/

DEVULAPALLI SRINIVASA MURTI
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VIJAYAWADA 521108
OCT. 10, 2019
0866-2953298 / 998931830

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Date: Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 8:24 AM
Subject: Fwd: bankpensioner Commutation arrears
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Date: Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 8:11 AM
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From: RAMKI <ramk...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: bankpensioner Commutation arrears
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Dear Sri D.S.MURTHY GARU,

What happened your Syndicate Bank Arrears matter. We are eagerly waiting for your reply. Because, if one bank other than SBMP COMMUNE Paid the arrears, we all will demand the arrears from our respective Banks by pointing your bank. How far your Bank"s arrears calculation is going on. Kindly share with us and once again I thank you for your sincere efforts taken on this matter for all of us. With regards

R P R- VRS 2001-PENSION RETIREE

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[Narendra Khutate]

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[Velayudhan Nair]

One has to approach Judiciary.A painstaking job.writing simple letters
is an easy job.
Contact Shri C N Prasad and seek his guidance.He does not write
letters, but acts.Just follow him.



warm reg



CPVNAIR

PS:PAPER BOMBS WILL NOT SAVE US

>> *My Dear Friends,PENDING CURATIVE PETITION # 243/2019 OF15 02 2019 IN
>> SUPREME COURT
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>> to the above, I enclose my reply in response to the phone call of Com.
>> Kasturi Rangan who filed Curative Petition recently along with Com.
>> Debesh

>> Bahattacharyji & Com. G.Palani garu. *
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>> మూర్తి/DEVULAPALLI SRINIVASA MURTIdevul...@gmail.com
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[Asok Bhaumik]

SBM pensioners other than petitioners are not paid arrears, forget about other bank pensioners. IBA is mighter than SC.

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[Satyanarayana Rao]

Shri C.N.Prasad the general secretary of SBM commune is taking required steps to get  the benefits to all eligible beneficiaries. It is a question of time. We will fight till Supreme court order is totally implemented. 

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[kushal mukhoti]

Can anybody tell me what's the actual number of pensioners of e AB of SBI, eligible for Arrears of commutation left in the lurch? 

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[Padam Singh]

Respected sir, has the issue of 37.2.b as per PR 1995 been postponed for some times or any progress. 

[Velayudhan Nair]

between 3000 and 4000 App.But who is to lead them?Virtually none.



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