Re: Digest for bankpensioner@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 4 topics

[vaidya nathan]

Sir Soma sekar is correct. The United Forum cannot even implement their Agenda, whether to working or retirees.  Ego plays it's Central role. IBA is equally powerless in dictating Management duties or making Unions pay for it. Neither Wilful Default or Write off customers can be stopped. The fault of previous govt is causing Big and Bigger problem  to present Govt in financial stability.   When Govt can run Railway, postal,  Customs and Incometax, what is problem in administration of Banks.  

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• MERGER OF PSBs TO MAKE 'MEGA BANKS' - 2 Updates
• SBIPA MEET CHAIRMAN,SBI - 2 Updates
• AIBEA TO MR D S MURTHY - 1 Update
• WP (C) 36636/2025 ON GST POSTED TO 8th DEC'25 - 1 Update

MERGER OF PSBs TO MAKE 'MEGA BANKS'

Murali <muralidharan...@gmail.com>: Oct 15 06:57PM +0530 Thanks for the informative email. While consolidation of the smaller among PSBs is quite welcome, what does the Government intend to achieve by this exercise?   1. Greater efficiency in terms of stronger and uniform systems and procedures, supervision and control and better operational synergies are all mythical if the outcome of past mergers are anything to go by.   It made the merged entities top heavy and gave rise to asymmetrical branch networks post merger.   Confusion, discontentment at operational levels due to turf wars percolating top down.   2. What is the purpose of creating mega entities if the BOD of merged banks are not entrusted with functional autonomy? Staff matters euphimistically known by the acronym HRD are managed from DFS, GoI. Be it leave rules, transfers, promotions, incentives for performance, fixation of pay scales, rewards and punishment - name one aspect of staff management where the Bank boards are free to act independently?   In conclusion, when you create mega banks, SBI, PNB, Canara, Union and Indian Bank are already in the list, empower them to handle the details and trust the RBI to do financial supervision ( even supervision is becoming a dirty word, Bank boards are not kindergarten kids, management is more apt) best - they surely know their job better than any career government servant.   As for staff matters, Finance Ministry - please exit completely. Your breathing down the necks of career bankers has throttled them beyond redemption already.       On Wed, 15 Oct, 2025, 10:03 KRISHAN KANT VERMA, <kkverm...@gmail.com> wrote:

JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Oct 16 11:57AM +0530 As retirees we have no voice or platform to resist mergers of Banks. We are unable to raise our voice against non implementation of DA merger and other demands. There is no use in scratching our heads over such issues which we cannot resist or stop. Employees Unions have their own agenda. They will make some noise when the govt announces some reforms then keep quiet. Mergers of Banks are policies of the Central Government and they do not wait for approval of Unions. Customers do not have any problem if Bank A becomes Bank B. They want good service that is all. As of now these are just rumours,     On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 10:13 AM Murali <muralidharan...@gmail.com> wrote:

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SBIPA MEET CHAIRMAN,SBI

MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com>: Oct 16 03:09PM +0530 *Just for Information:*   *FEDERATION OF SBI PENSIONERS' ASSOCIATIONS*   Regn. No. S/17025 of 1986 Under Societies Registration Act 1860 (Delhi)   ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, BENGALURU   65, 3BI LHO Buildings. St. Mark's Road, Bangalore - 560001 Email: fsh...@gmail.com       *MEETING WITH CHAIRMAN*   Circular No.9/2025   15th October 2025   FSBIPAS Office-bearers S/Shri N. Radhakrishnan, President, G.D. Nadaf, General Secretary, Joseph Palackal, Vice-President and Sudhir Pawar. Secretary met honourable and respected Chairman, Shri Challa Srinivasulu Setty at his Office at Corporate Centre, Mumbai today (i.e., 15.10.2025). The DMD HR and CDO, CGM HR, and DGM P & PM were also present   2. Shri G D Nadaf, General Secretary appealed for kind intervention of our beloved Chairman regarding amendments to SBI Family Pension Rules on the lines of Central Civil Services Pension Rules more particularly to add improvements done for Central Govt CCS(Pension) Rules 1972 as regards Family Pension to the unfortunate disabled children of pensioners. We have given our suggestions also.   3. He also said that the Federation has submitted its suggestions on improvements in the Health Insurance Scheme due for renewal. Shri Nadaf requested for making the scheme viable for all categories of Pensioners.   4. Shri Nadaf, quoting the past combined effort in the Jodhpur conclave of Management, Officers' Federation and Staff Federation during December 2006. towards the growth of the Bank, assured that FSBIPA will always be ready to associate with the Bank in all its endeavours towards retaining mighty SBI its Premier position in the Banking industry.   5. Our beloved Chairman responded very positively and termed the Pensioners as the Brand Ambassadors of the Bank supporting all schemes and plans.   6. Respected Chairman also hinted on various HR initiatives, which are in the pipeline, connecting the life-cycle of the employee i.e., before/ during employment and even after retirement and expressed that this project, the first of its kind in the entire country, would be implemented at the earliest possible time.   7. While we reiterate our total support to the Bank in all its initiatives aiming comfortable environment to all employees/ retired employees, we wholeheartedly thank our respected Chairman for allocating his precious time for interaction with us, despite his hectic schedule.   With Deepavali greetings,   G.D. NADAF   General Secretary

JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Oct 16 03:21PM +0530 The issues discussed will not help PSU Bank pensioners. SBI retirees not interested in Updation. Their focus was on restoring pension which they have achieved and now they are pursuing the case further for arrears.

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AIBEA TO MR D S MURTHY

MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com>: Oct 16 02:49PM +0530

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WP (C) 36636/2025 ON GST POSTED TO 8th DEC'25

MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com>: Oct 16 10:26AM +0530 One more order from Kerala High Court on GST

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[mathunni panicker]

DFS should be divested from powers  dealing or controlling HRD ISSUES in Public Sector banks.HR disputes  should be left to be decided by discussion between the management and  employee representatives.At best only the Ministry of Labour should be the arbiter of disputes.For keeping a watch on the proper business functions ,in addition to RBI another statutory organisation in the lines of IRDI SHOULD BE FORMED  WHICH WILL LOOK IN TO ALL BUSINESS ACTIVITY related matters.This may help to resolve issues which are pending for decades in the banking industry.

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[JSOMA SHEKARA]

Panicker I fully disagree with you,

DFS has already stated that if IBA sends a proposal for Updation it will consider the same.

As per Delhi High Court order DFS appointed a committee to study and recommend

1. 100% DA neutralization 2. 40/50% issue of SBI pensioners, 2. Periodical revision of Pension in every wage settlement.

When SC dismissed the 100% DA case in 2018, UFBU also  abandoned the issue.

If DFS had not interfered we would not have got 100% DA benefit. 

Why did UFBU not bargain for arrears  at least from the back date of 6 months.

2. IBA submitted before the committee that the Updation issue covers all PSB pensioners; they will discuss it separately.

Did they discuss it? In every BPS meeting there after IBA said sub judice and UFBU agreed without protest.

3. Did IFBU and Retiree associations try to break the deadlock by finding a solution? No. Instead AIBOA one of the UFBU constituent filed another case to ensure that Updation should never be implemented?

4. As far asAIBOC is concerned it represents PSBanks officers but works for SBI officers and retirees only.

    Though Updation issue is pending before Delhi high Court they are not pursuing the same but interested in getting arrears in 40/50% issue.

5. Though IBA twice suggested to  UFBU to submit a proposal for merger of DA, UFBU leaders are silent and so far have not taken any steps but never fail to mention Uniform DA pensioners in their circulars during the last 2-3 decades.

Do you trust these letters? if  DFS back out, can you rely on these leaders? 

CHV is writing several letters  teaching sermons to DFS on secularism and various other issues.

But why has he not written a single letter demanding updation?

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