2nd Pension Option to leftout categories

[Venkateswara Raju Lakhamraju]

http://www.change.org/p/shri-arun-jaitley-hon-ble-finance-minister-lack-of-transparency-in-the-matter-regarding-offering-of-2nd-option-of-pension-to-retired-employees-of-associate-banks-of-sbi?recruiter=146330035&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

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[NARENDER KUMAR Sethi]

Dear Mr. Venkateswara Raju ji,

Hello,

I am really grateful to you and all those are there to boost moral support for a very very genuine cause.

It may be interest to your that on the 9th of September , I have arranged to hold a Press Conference to 

draw the attention of the concerned authorities.

My main concentration of the subject matter will be the instructions of Ministry of Finance (DFS) to IBA,

that 2nd Option of Pension is to be offered to all the retirees of a particular period irrespective of any 

category.

I am surprised over the working of the concerned ministry besides the negotiating bodies who talk of big

but have their own reservations for not getting the directives adhered to or agreements implemented in toto.

Best of Luck

Narender Kumar Sethi

09988257740

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PLEASE REQUEST YOUR NEARS AND DEAR TO CARRY ON SIGNING THE PETITION.

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Nobody can disgrace us other than ourselves.  So why get angry.
Nobody can make you angry without your consent.
You cannot change others as easily as you can change yourself.
NARENDER KUMAR SETHI
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Venkateswara Raju Lakhamraju <lakha...@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.change.org/p/shri-arun-jaitley-hon-ble-finance-minister-lack-of-transparency-in-the-matter-regarding-offering-of-2nd-option-of-pension-to-retired-employees-of-associate-banks-of-sbi?recruiter=146330035&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

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[bhaskara sarma]

Dear Narendra Kumar Sethi,

The real problem is constitution of IBA.There are many members ,mostly weak private sector banks who are blocking all the progress in giving benefits to employees or pensioners.Unless a viable solution is found out,we continue to have the problems of non implementation or implementation  in certain banks or to certain sections of employees.This problem is not there for RBI or LIC employees.

P B Sarma.

[sundararaman]

Thanks union, thanks Management, my pension has been sanctioned.. I will get it regulaly rom now onwards..I paid my 156% Bank portion belatedly and it was rejected. But now it has been sanctioned as a special case. sundararaman

[K V VENKATESWARAN]

Cograts

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[NARENDER KUMAR Sethi]

Dear Mr. Sunraraman Swamy ji,

WHILE congratulating you for the NEWS you shared with all of us, I would like to know the details of your case  that those falling under the same category get solace that the time is coming near and near for long awaited decision in their favour.

Wishing you best of health for all years to come.

Narender Kumar Sethi

09416931706

09988257740

Say sorry at the right moment to reduce the anger of others.
For every 10 minutes you are angry you lose 600 seconds of happiness.  
Nobody can disgrace us other than ourselves.  So why get angry.
Nobody can make you angry without your consent.
You cannot change others as easily as you can change yourself.

(0172) 4657740, 2552904

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[Raghunathan DS]

Let me also join in congratulating our friend Sundararaman for getting his pension and sincerely hoping we the resigned people will also get our prayers answered.
D.S.Raghunathan

[saradindu basu]

Dear Shri Sundaram,
                                     I am also glad to know that your goodself has been sanctioned. Wish you very happy retired life.
 
--Saradindu Basu,
   Greater Noida.
 

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:31:43 +0530
Subject: Re: bankpensioner Re: 2nd Pension Option to leftout categories
From: kvv...@gmail.com
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[NARENDER KUMAR Sethi]

Dear Sundararaman Swamy ji,

BUT you took too much time to clarify.

Narender Sethi

Say sorry at the right moment to reduce the anger of others.
For every 10 minutes you are angry you lose 600 seconds of happiness.  
Nobody can disgrace us other than ourselves.  So why get angry.
Nobody can make you angry without your consent.
You cannot change others as easily as you can change yourself.

NARENDER KUMAR SETHI
919988257740 9464895148

(0172) 4657740, 2552904

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Sundararaman Swamy <sundarara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sethi saab,

It was not correct. saab. Ihave not yet been sanctioned. I left without logging out and some guys made fun just replying. I myself was upset on this. 

Sorry for the inconvienence  Sundararaman  , 

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM, NARENDER KUMAR Sethi <narenderk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Sunraraman Swamy ji,

Your reply is still awaited.

Please favour so that there is some clarity in the matter.

Thanks

Narender Kumar Sethi

Say sorry at the right moment to reduce the anger of others.
For every 10 minutes you are angry you lose 600 seconds of happiness.  
Nobody can disgrace us other than ourselves.  So why get angry.
Nobody can make you angry without your consent.
You cannot change others as easily as you can change yourself.

NARENDER KUMAR SETHI
919988257740 9464895148

(0172) 4657740, 2552904

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:35 PM, NARENDER KUMAR Sethi <narenderk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Sunraraman Swamy ji,

Your reply is still awaited.

Please favour so that there is some clarity in the matter.

Thanks

Narender Kumar Sethi

Say sorry at the right moment to reduce the anger of others.
For every 10 minutes you are angry you lose 600 seconds of happiness.  
Nobody can disgrace us other than ourselves.  So why get angry.
Nobody can make you angry without your consent.
You cannot change others as easily as you can change yourself.

NARENDER KUMAR SETHI
919988257740 9464895148

(0172) 4657740, 2552904

[parmeshwar lal sevda]

Sir, In which bank you served. Have you  opted VRS and how many years you served the bank. Kindly write me at my mail (pls...@gmail.com)

thanks

[premchand jaswal]

Dear Mr. Sudraraman Swamy,

                                             You posted your message  on 15.09.2014 and many members requested you to provide complete detail of your case so that the other deprived members  falling in the same category may take help. But after a lapse of about 7 months no reply from your side has been received. Kindly expedite for the benefit of other affected members.

P.C.Jaswal

 

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[parmeshwar lal sevda]

Dear Sir;
I was in Bank of Rajasthan ( now ICICI Bank) a private sector Bank. I served 24 yrs service and got VRS in the year 2006, from the post of Chief Manager. The bank declined my request on the ground that the circular no 9.11.2012 of IBA (IInd option to VRS) is not applicable to private sector bank.

Kindly guide on this matter.

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[NARENDER KUMAR Sethi]

Dear Mr. Sunraraman Swamy ji,

No issue,

What has happened that has not to be or cannot be reversed.

In any case be careful in future. 

Best of luck

Thanks

Narender Kumar Sethi

Say sorry at the right moment to reduce the anger of others.
For every 10 minutes you are angry you lose 600 seconds of happiness.  
Nobody can disgrace us other than ourselves.  So why get angry.
Nobody can make you angry without your consent.
You cannot change others as easily as you can change yourself.
NARENDER KUMAR SETHI
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(0172) 4657740, 2552904

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[Raghavan K]

As far as I know Sri. Sundararaman is from Indian Bank and his case is one of not remitting 156 percent of PF contribution for joining second option in time. Now the bank has condoned the delay after repeated requests and appeals and sanctioned pension, though originally it was rejected.

 

K Raghavan,"Deepam",11 Millennium Nagar,Koduvathara Road,Padivattom,PO Edapally,Cochin-682024.Phone 0484 2345367,Mobile 9446801259.

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[C R Bhattacharjee]

Sorry I AM SBI PENSIONER.(exit optee)
ISSUE IS APPROPRIATE FOR
NATIONALISED

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[pady nabs]

Dear Mr. Raghavan,

One more case opted pension and remitted required percentage to h.o.   The only blunder he did is not submitted the forms during the deadline owing to persoanl medical problems to his daughter in the intervened time.    His case was rejected for the reason delayed submission.  He wrote many letters visited in person to H.O.not obtained pension so far.  Whereas his p.f.portion with requisite percentage was returned to him only after 10 months.   He is keeping the money in his s.b.a/c till I last heard i.e in 2013.  After Mr. Sundarraman why they were reluctant to  extend p.f.option to this gentlemen.   Retired from i.b. on superannuation in 2010.

padmanabhan.

[pady nabs]

[Raghavan K]

Dear  Mr. Padmanabhan,

I am not really aware of the cases. Its only my assumption in the case of Mr. Sundarraman from following his mails in this blog.

How ever in the case quoted by you, the aggrieved person may take the help of retirees association in his place. Both AIBRF and AIBPARC has their wings in Indian Bank in Chennai as well as other places.

 

K Raghavan,"Deepam",11 Millennium Nagar,Koduvathara Road,Padivattom,PO Edapally,Cochin-682024.Phone 0484 2345367,Mobile 9446801259.

[bhaskara sarma]

Who cares for AIBRF or AIBPARC?The grievance redress all committees consisting of representatives of retirees have become ineffective because of indifference of the management.Even quarterly or half yearly meetings are not conducted in many banks.

P B Sarma.

[pady nabs]

thanks for your immediate response.   IInd option is case won in favour of Mr.Sharma, delhi in similar case purforth by me.   Delhi high court judgement d.15.4.2015

padmanabhan

[Raghavan K]

The present state of affairs of retirees is mainly because of this attitude. Though their influence is limited we cannot rule out the existing outfits of retiree organisations in the banking industry. Though they may not be as effective as we would like to have or  as effective as the government retiree organisation, it is up to us to make it strong and effective. 

K Raghavan,"Deepam",11 Millennium Nagar,Koduvathara Road,Padivattom,PO Edapally,Cochin-682024.Phone 0484 2345367,Mobile 9446801259.

[nand kishore]

Dear Paddy nab Sir

Dispite Raghwan & Sundraman & myself Nand Kishore Arora  their may be some other person in the row  who are efected person.Please take a bold step of making list of such person available in google group site bank wise who opted for pension option well in time but could not depoist PF dues +56% in time to bank. Due to some reason on others.List should be visible in google group site to see whether somebody has recognsid us and we are in the que of person whose cases will be discussed by the google group for offering pension option.

Hoping for the best

Nand Kishore Arora

PNB Retiree on Superannnuation who opted for Pension but deprived Pension

Period  of Retirement  ;-OCT 2009

nand_ki...@yahoo.co.in

nand...@Gmail.com

7508049850

[pady nabs]

o.k.sir, I will call for such a list through this blog, which may I hope yield good result.

padmanabhan, i.b.svrs.2001

[sundararaman]

ll 

 There was a misconception that i got pension and i have already informed in the forum that is not so.. now  the cat is out of the bag.. . Unions or Associations are not going to rescue us. I plan to initiate action of cases similar to me from my bank or other banks and also been deprived pension for some reason or the other. . Pl do not get scared that there will be asubscription to join the association or union.. It is purely a forum . I need your solidarity through mail or phone and i will initially take care of expenses. we may have to meet in Delhi soon.Interested persons may contact me in mobile 09445135050 or rams...@rediffmail.com or watssapp me in the above mobile. This i am writing after the signing of the bipartite settlement y day and nothing abt retirees. M Sundararaman VRS 2001 Indian bank

[sundararaman]

Resignees exit optees, CRS employees and SVRS employees did not have an opportunity to apply for second option pension as per agreement. There is one more unfortunate category of handful who are more unfortunate. They were eligible for applying for pension and applied and were short listed for pension by banks. . But due to the following reasons their pension was rejected.

1. For not remitting the requisite portion of 156% calculated by the bank as Bank portion of PF minus commutation in some cases due to their financial problem within the 30 day stipulated time

2.Even having money in the savings bank accounts but did not properly instruct the bank to debit the account by way of debit authority

3.Fully eligible but due to some reason did not apply within 60 day stipulated time for 2nd option.

Many of the employes/offficers mnight have taken legal recourse but that will be a prolonged affair. We need to get together and fight. ie. all the above mentioned  CRS SVRS Resignees  exit optees together with the handful of unfortunate ones who lost the pension due to the above reasons. We may have to go even upto hunger strike.May be from any bank . Let us join together and get our demand fulfilled.

I HUMBLY REQUEST YOU THOSE AFFECTED TO PLEASE CONTACT ME ON PHONE OR ON MAIL PH 09445135050 MAIL rams...@rediffmail.com.I woauld urge the leaders of retired associations to show us the way and guide us in the matter. Sundararaman M. IB VRS 2001

[kiritkumar chauhan]

Sir ,I am eligible for pension option as I was serving employee on 27/04/2010 but denied my option after 6 month,bank had returns my pf and 2.10 percent and rejected my option.     Klchauhan central bank of India resignee mobile 9998387180 email kirit.c...@gmail.com

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[nand kishore]

 I fully agree the view of Sundraman.Plz chalk out the date and place of going on hunger strike.

Actually the left over category which are not receiving pension and are jobless has already started taking half meals to justify their expenses and inflationary market condition.

Nand Kishore Arora

Superannuation Retiree (PNB) who opted for pension but deprived

nand_ki...@yahoo.co.in

nandp...@gmail.com

[anil shah]

I am also miss the second option because of of country

now I am ready to joint with association and also willing to pay fees

thanks

anil shah

SVRS - UBI 2001
 

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Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: bankpensioner Re: 2nd Pension Option to leftout categories

[sundararaman]

Dear all, 

Good response. I am getting calls also from all over from the pension deprived category. I am already making a list and am sure that we will fight strategically and try to win even though the cases may differ. Finally we stand that we are pension less and in penury. . Please join hands to fight for pension. . 

[kiritkumar chauhan]

Sir,I am ready for all type of support ,specifically  it is economical,physical presence ,hunger strike ,dharna or legal fight.now onward  we have to fight for our legitimate right .

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[nand kishore]

Dear Sundraman  ji

PENSION            PENSION                  PENSION                   PENSION

Please forward the mail  to worthy Narinder Modi the worthy Prime Minister of India after due modification that 

We leftover category who have been deprived pension despite the fact that we have opted for pension. We are pension less and in penury .Plz take immediate step to resolve our only single demand of Pension

Nand Kishore Arora

nand_ki...@yahoo.co.in

nan...@gmail.com

On Tuesday, 9 June 2015 6:05 PM, sundararaman <sundarara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all, 

Good response. I am getting calls also from all over from the pension deprived category. I am already making a list and am sure that we will fight strategically and try to win even though the cases may differ. Finally we stand that we are pension less and in penury. . Please join hands to fight for pension. . 

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 at 9:40:06 AM UTC+5:30, Venkateswara Raju Lakhamraju wrote:

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Pl get the link and sign

[sundararaman]

Dear all

The pension is our right and depriving pension on any ground is not justifiable. Legal course will take long . So protest and demonstration unitedly may yield resultsthose who are prepared may please contact  me at 9445135050 or sundarara...@gmail.com   thanks sundararaman.

[Vidya Krishnamachar]

respected sunderraman

I am with you

vidya s k

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[Venkataraman P.N]

I would like to inform the Pension issue to Resigned Bank Officers was taken by me during 2009, when settlement was in progress

Copy of  my letter is given here below

 would like to reproduce one of the first letters written by me during 2009 to the Forum regarding Pension option to Resignees.Actually the only exit route for PF optees is Resignation as per OSR giving three months notice.I reporduce here the letter sent

Dear Sir,

 

                  Sub: Regarding Injustice caused to Ex Bank Officials.

 

In the recent MOU signed between Indian Banks Association and Bank unions, agreement was reported to have been reached for extending another option for Pension to those who did not opt for Pension when the Bank Employees Pension Regulations, 1995 were implemented.. Those who were in the services of the Bank as on 29.09.1995 /26.03.1996, who were eligible but did not opt for the Pension scheme and retired thereafter shall be extended the option  for joining the Pension scheme, subject of course, refund of the employers PF contribution with interest component.

 

While it is a welcome move to bring social security to the Bank Employees, both existing and retired, this MOU has created social disparity to the section of the Bank Employees who have resigned during the period, i.e. from 1995 till date.

 

Further I wish to bring to your kind information, the state of affairs for resigned officers. As there is no other possible exit route for PF optees they have chosen to resign after completing over 25 years of service. When any facility is given with retrospective effect, employees who were in service as at cut off date should be given a chance to opt, but I am afraid decision making authorities are not talking about this. 

 

Already at the time of Resignation, such Officers received PF, Gratuity but only half of the their accrued leave encashment, whereas an Officer, who has put in similar years of service, who had opted for Pension, has the option to quit the service as Voluntary Retirement with full benefits and also Pension. It is high time IBA should think about the state of affairs of this lot, when they are entering into a settlement with retrospective date [before 14 years].

 

Resignation after serving for over two decades should not be construed as forfeiture of service but should be considered as an alternative exit route which only was available. The only sin such employees have done is not opting for Pension. Better sense should prevail on the part of the decision taking authorities. Bank Employees' Pension Regulations, 1995 does not provide for pension in case of resignations. It talks about superannuation pension, Invalid pension and Pension on voluntary retirement.

 

Logically, if any person was on the rolls during 1995/96 and subsequently resigned (since there was no option at the time of retirement he has to exercise the option of resigning only}, they should also be given another option and brought bank into the pension net. That should be the reasonable and logical way. They have opted to resign (not by choice but by force) since there was no facility of exercising option at the time of their resigning.

S/d P N Venkataraman

Still  no steps were taken before settlement. After words it was pointed out that Mr M V Nair, the then IBA Chairman and a few other GMs of PSBs who had resigned to take up ED posts, conveniently  changed their Resignation letter to Deemed to have Retired and are getting Pension. It is a shame that these were the Officials who said Pension is not allowable for Resigned Bank men.  Further when Vijaya Bank case was won in Karnataka Court atleast then the mistake should have been corrected.

It is pathetic when MPs who were in Office for 5 years get life long huge Pension, poor Bank Officers who have served for over two decades and left are not getting the same.

Aaache Din for  the rest, other than the Resigned lot

P.N.Venkataraman

 

May I request you Sir, to intervene in the above, and see to it justice is done to all.

 

P N Venkataraman

 

P.N.Venkataraman

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