Process initiated for 10th bipartite settlement
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bass
Sep 11, 2011, 9:09:16 AM9/11/11
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Dear All,
I am very happy to inform that the process was already initiated for
the 10th BPS due on 1.11.2012. UFBU has been getting suggesions/
charter of demands from various unions etc.,
While reviewing the achievements of 9th BPS, members felt that UFBU
clinched nominal benefit of 17.5% growth compared to the demand of
over 40%. UFBU has clarified that because of pension load, the benefit
was restricted to 17.5%, otherwise it could be 24-25%.
Now, the fresh demand is likely around 40%, at least to level the
scales of central govt employees, at base levels. In view of RBI
directions to all PSU banks for increasing the scales at executive
level and in the absence of pension load factor, employees are in good
mood for a fair settlement.
Before commencement of negotiations for the 10th BPS, I request all
the bank pensioner associations to pursue the pending demands like
updation of pension, extension of enhancement of gratuity benefit,
commutation from 1/3rd to 50% and all other petty issues, through
UFBU.
With regards
S.M.BASHA
I am very happy to inform that the process was already initiated for
the 10th BPS due on 1.11.2012. UFBU has been getting suggesions/
charter of demands from various unions etc.,
While reviewing the achievements of 9th BPS, members felt that UFBU
clinched nominal benefit of 17.5% growth compared to the demand of
over 40%. UFBU has clarified that because of pension load, the benefit
was restricted to 17.5%, otherwise it could be 24-25%.
Now, the fresh demand is likely around 40%, at least to level the
scales of central govt employees, at base levels. In view of RBI
directions to all PSU banks for increasing the scales at executive
level and in the absence of pension load factor, employees are in good
mood for a fair settlement.
Before commencement of negotiations for the 10th BPS, I request all
the bank pensioner associations to pursue the pending demands like
updation of pension, extension of enhancement of gratuity benefit,
commutation from 1/3rd to 50% and all other petty issues, through
UFBU.
With regards
S.M.BASHA
synd_man
Sep 12, 2011, 12:31:13 AM9/12/11
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Subject: bankpensioner Process initiated for 10th bipartite settlement
Dear Mr. Bhasha,
It is true that before the commencement for 10th BPS, the pending demands
of the Bank Pensioners may be pursued and the pressure may be built on IBA
to resolve at least some of the issues. At the same time you forgot your
brethrens, who could not get the pension for no fault of them. Why cant
UFBU pressurize the IBA, unless they come for negotiation table regarding
their misinterpretation of word "Retirees" in the 9th BPS and resolve the
same as per the terms and spirit of the BPS, they would not be in a position
to continue the talk in respect of 10th BPS. With this they can avoid the
approaching of Court of Law and also prevent unnecessary delay. What U Say?
Synd_man
With regards
S.M.BASHA
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J SOMASEKARA
Sep 12, 2011, 9:12:08 AM9/12/11
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Working employees have expressed anger against Unions for settling less percentage of increase during 9 BPS. So I think this time Unions may not take up issues like 100% DA for all and pension updation of pensioners seriously.
Any body have any opinion contrary to this please discuss.
bass
Sep 12, 2011, 10:18:06 AM9/12/11
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Dear Sir,
Why should we think like that ? Let us wait for the demand list to
come out from various unions and the consolidation from UFBU.
In the meantime, let us focus our issues, by collecting from our
respected members through various platforms and bring them to the
notice of iba/goi/ufbu and request them to settle all the pending
issues, by any means, before the commencement of next settlement.
Members must be aware of the legitimate rights of the retirees and
discuss positively and optimistically. Nothing is wrong to express the
opinion about some more benefits like medical facility, old age homes
and even LFC etc., Forget the probability, possibility, cost factors
and implications etc., but keep it in mind and remember that the
present and future generations in the banking industry have been
enjoying on the laurels of our sacrifices and struggles of several
decades.
Some of our issues like updation of pension etc.,are also in the
higher courts, at final stages. We may be blessed with favour,
shortly.
With regards
S.M.BASHA
On Sep 12, 6:12 pm, J SOMASEKARA <jsomasekara2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Working employees have expressed anger against Unions for settling less
> percentage of increase during 9 BPS. So I think this time Unions may not
> take up issues like 100% DA for all and pension updation of pensioners
> seriously.
> Any body have any opinion contrary to this please discuss.
>
Why should we think like that ? Let us wait for the demand list to
come out from various unions and the consolidation from UFBU.
In the meantime, let us focus our issues, by collecting from our
respected members through various platforms and bring them to the
notice of iba/goi/ufbu and request them to settle all the pending
issues, by any means, before the commencement of next settlement.
Members must be aware of the legitimate rights of the retirees and
discuss positively and optimistically. Nothing is wrong to express the
opinion about some more benefits like medical facility, old age homes
and even LFC etc., Forget the probability, possibility, cost factors
and implications etc., but keep it in mind and remember that the
present and future generations in the banking industry have been
enjoying on the laurels of our sacrifices and struggles of several
decades.
Some of our issues like updation of pension etc.,are also in the
higher courts, at final stages. We may be blessed with favour,
shortly.
With regards
S.M.BASHA
On Sep 12, 6:12 pm, J SOMASEKARA <jsomasekara2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Working employees have expressed anger against Unions for settling less
> percentage of increase during 9 BPS. So I think this time Unions may not
> take up issues like 100% DA for all and pension updation of pensioners
> seriously.
> Any body have any opinion contrary to this please discuss.
>
PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK RETIRED STAFF ASSOCIATION TAMIL NAD( PNBRSA -TN)
Sep 15, 2011, 12:07:34 AM9/15/11
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PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK RETIRED STAFF ASSOCIATION TAMIL NAD( PNBRSA -TN)
bass
Sep 15, 2011, 7:29:15 AM9/15/11
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Dear Sirs,
Nothing is wrong. Fitrst you have to impress and attract the attention
of UFBU and vigorously pursue the matter. Legal battle is the last
resort.
There are so many types of problems among retirees. One group can be
identified among the retirees and form as a seperate group by virture
of their identical grievances from all banks.
Like that one group need not be co-related with some other group. This
is one of such platform to express your group opinions and attract the
attention of UFBU.
Consistency in reporting the grievance is required with voluntary
initiative from the members of the respective group. The others
generally are interested in routine matters or problems relating and
affecting to them.
Best of luck.
With regards
S.M.BASHA
On Sep 15, 9:07 am, "PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK RETIRED STAFF ASSOCIATION
Nothing is wrong. Fitrst you have to impress and attract the attention
of UFBU and vigorously pursue the matter. Legal battle is the last
resort.
There are so many types of problems among retirees. One group can be
identified among the retirees and form as a seperate group by virture
of their identical grievances from all banks.
Like that one group need not be co-related with some other group. This
is one of such platform to express your group opinions and attract the
attention of UFBU.
Consistency in reporting the grievance is required with voluntary
initiative from the members of the respective group. The others
generally are interested in routine matters or problems relating and
affecting to them.
Best of luck.
With regards
S.M.BASHA
On Sep 15, 9:07 am, "PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK RETIRED STAFF ASSOCIATION
lakshmanan shankarnaraynan
Sep 15, 2011, 10:45:41 AM9/15/11
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Dear Friends,
The Banks should not discriminate between different class of retirees.Whatever be the mode of retirement a retiree is a retiree. This anomaly should go and steps taken during the 10th BPS negotiation.
S.Lakshmanan(IB-VRS2001)
Krishna M Ramadugu
Sep 15, 2011, 1:16:46 PM9/15/11
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In addition to what you said, why not the Unions negotiate for Uniform pension/medical facilities for all
the retirees of the Bank, whether VRS 2001, VRS,CRS, Resigned with due intimation to Bank and their approval, and super annuated while negotiating with IBA. It reduces lot of confusion to all the parties. There will be uniformity. Some of the court pronouncements also suggest the same viz., working employee is paid salary and every retired employee gets uniformly the pension(deferred wage) calculated by the same method without cut-off dates, 50% neutralizations etc., . Irrespective of date every retired employee is the same and has the same old age problems and inflation.
Regards to all the learned and committed in the group.
R.Krishna Murthy
Andhra Bank, VRS 2001
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Subbaramiah Srinivasan
Sep 15, 2011, 9:07:13 PM9/15/11
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Hello All
What a sad state of affairs that we have to convince our own union people let alone managements. Seniors in UFBU should know that they will also become pensioners after some time and will be fighting with the existing UFBU members for benifits. Even many individuals in managements will also be in similar state tomorrow after retirement. These people will be fighting for the same benifits which they are denying now.
Let good sense prevail on managements and unions.
Hemalatha
karuna
Sep 17, 2011, 4:28:32 AM9/17/11
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Dear Friends,
THE ART OF COLECTIVE BARGAINING – UFBU & IBA STYLE
After the victorious 9th Bi-partite settlement the Banking
Industry is looking forward yet another bi-partite i.e, the grad
10th Bi-partite. The garlands are ready, the crackers are ordered and
the sweets are being readied. Our comrades are preparing long
speeches hailing the achievements of our best leaders. The only
thing is that it may take a few more years to conclude the talks and
a few days of Token strike and threats of indefinite strikes as
usual that we have seen and enjoyed in all the bi-partites so far.
But the fact remains that the parties who are going to achieve the
tremendous victory is once again the same IBA and UFBU. As usual
the losers will be the bank employees and their predecessors i.e the
pensions who are alive and dead.
The UFBU and IBA are going for yet another ‘collective bargaining’,
a phrase that has been highly respected in the labour industry
and that has been made a mockery by the UFBU and IBA, by their
infamous Joint notes.
Of course there were collective bargaining all the time and one
wonders who bargained and who collected what. A video footage of
the bi-partite talks may bring the facts to the employees who have
elected their leaders and on whom he has imposed great faith for a
truthful collective bargaining. Will there be transparency and video
footing of the marathon talks at least for the 10th bi-partite? There
may not be.
On going through the verdict of the recently concluded case against
Bank of Baroda in the High Court of Judicature of Madras, the true
colour of Collective Bargaining in Banking Industry is exposed.
It is very sad to see that in the name of collective bargaining
powers, both UFBU and IBA had entered into a conspiracy to reduce
the pension of the employees denying a section, the benefit of the
revised salary. By their betrayal the signatories have brought
disrepute to the process of ‘Collective Bargaining’. Now it is
only a collective betrayal.
This collective bargaining powers vested with the parties were
used to the detriment of the employees by a JOINT NOTE entered into
between UFBU and IBA. It is a clear case of betrayal done by the
Unions/Associations, on whose bargaining capacities the entire bank
staff have utmost faith.
A time has come that every employee should think well before joining
a UNION or Association. They should also see whether these Union
leaders are really dedicated to carry on the interest of the
employees.
But it is the fate of the Banking Industry that the collusion of
the Unions and the Bank Management in respect of transfers,
promotions etc. that always threatens and silences the dissenting
voices of honest employees.
sureshbhat M
Sep 19, 2011, 12:18:24 AM9/19/11
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Dear Sirs 19/09/2011
Is Xth bps IS an opportunity to ask for implimentation of "ONE SCALE-ONE PENSION" in Banking Industry as it would eliminate ALL PRESENT AND FUTURE DISCRIMINATION S'. This demand by UFBU will definitly secure all the UFBU members also of their previledges in future.
Dear UFBU constituents- Please THINK FAST IN THE MATTER. (as it may not cost too much considering updation of pensions to All)
With regards
Suresh Bhat M
Canara Bank SVRS
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Venkata S.Akella CFE
Sep 19, 2011, 2:06:33 AM9/19/11
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Could somebody gude me as to whether this would be applicable ( if conceded by the Hon.Supreme Court ) to
all retirees of all PSBs irrespective of their date of retirement viz.
all retirees of all PSBs irrespective of their date of retirement viz.
1) Normal Super Annuation 2) VRS employees between 1995 and 2001 3) Special VRS employees and
4) All subsequent retireees through VRS mode.
I wish to state that I served in a PSB between 1975 and 1996 and took VRS in January, 1997.
Thanks and regards.
Venkata
perumal maruthu
Sep 19, 2011, 3:08:32 AM9/19/11
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Dear Sureshbhatji,
Your proposition 'one-scale=one pension is the same as that of the Armed Personnel's demand for ONE RANK-ONE PENSION.It is the most justifiable demand to eleminate discrimination among equals.
UFBU must put forth this as its Second demand after the First one ie, revision of scales for serving staff.
M.Perumal
Canara Bank SVRS..........................................................................................................
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lajpat rai
Sep 19, 2011, 4:44:53 AM9/19/11
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| DEAR FRIENDS I SUGGEST ALL RETIREES VISITING WEB SITE OF BANK PENSIONER BLOGSPOT.COM SHOULD INVARIABLY WRITE LETTERS/EMAILS TO UFBU/AIBOC/AIBEA IMPRESSING THIS DEMAND SIMPLY WRITING E MAILS ON THIS WEB SITE WILL NOT SERVE PURPOSE OF RETIREES. THE E MAIL ID OF THESE APEX ORGANISATION ARE AVAILABLE ON THEIR RESPECTIVE WEB SITE. THE E MAIL ID OF AIBOC IS ai...@infiatimes.com. |
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karunakaran duraisamy
Sep 19, 2011, 5:43:57 AM9/19/11
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Dear Sirs,
This type of one rank one pension etc. is already there and it is fundamental right given to us under the constitution of India. Only the managements are denying this right and every now and then one union or other fighting it out in the court. Since the fixation of pension emanates from the last drawn salary of the pension, as at present, the employees must be vigilant to see that they get a higher pay packet like the central govt. employees. Or otherwise, IBA and UFBU will
connive to say that we have given one scale and one pension, you give 39% of the 40% hike given to you for pension fund. - karunakaran - dk...@rediffmail.com
This type of one rank one pension etc. is already there and it is fundamental right given to us under the constitution of India. Only the managements are denying this right and every now and then one union or other fighting it out in the court. Since the fixation of pension emanates from the last drawn salary of the pension, as at present, the employees must be vigilant to see that they get a higher pay packet like the central govt. employees. Or otherwise, IBA and UFBU will
connive to say that we have given one scale and one pension, you give 39% of the 40% hike given to you for pension fund. - karunakaran - dk...@rediffmail.com
Mohan badi
Sep 19, 2011, 5:56:58 AM9/19/11
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Dear Venkata S Akella Sir,
Please brief your case so that I can suggest you something, if not everythings as per my knowledge.Here on line in net everybody is kind and helpful.
With regards.
Prof.M.R.Badi
Bangalore
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Sent: Monday, 19 September 2011 11:36 AM
Please brief your case so that I can suggest you something, if not everythings as per my knowledge.Here on line in net everybody is kind and helpful.
With regards.
Prof.M.R.Badi
Bangalore
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Sent: Monday, 19 September 2011 11:36 AM
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