Letter addressed to IBA for talks

[PARASURAMAN K R]

Dear Comrade Murali,

We the bank retirees are happy to note that you as convenor of UBFU has addressed a letter to IBA for arranging a meeting to discuss medical insurance and retirees issues exclusively. The IBA is never serious to such letters as has been experienced during 10th BPS and you were forced to remind them time and again even with threats of strike action for conducting meeting to solve issues. We hope and pray that IBA treats this letter with all seriousness and arranges a meeting soon and UFBU is "fully prepared" to address our issues. A perfunctory meeting with no concrete solution is of no interest to us.

As affected parties we would like to point out some issues which we would like you to take into account before holding talks with IBA. We feel that it is high time that our presence is required in such discussions and you may suggest a tripartite discussion instead of bipartite talks. We also feel that the GOI is favouring such a meeting with the Minister of Finance suggesting a tripartite meeting between IBA, UFBU, and major Retiree Organizations. Such a meeting would be more meaningful and beneficial to bank retirees especially with the Government initiating the next BPS for wage revision of employees.

Further in letter addressed to AIBOC and AIBEA, the major constituents of UFBU, IBA has informed that they have already started collecting data from banks on cost implications on certain major issues. You may be aware that in this technologically advanced age the task is very simple and less time consuming. We don't understand why IBA requires such a long time as 3 to 4 months to complete the process whereas the task could be completed in 3 to 4 hours or 3 to 4 days or at the most 3 to 4 weeks. The long time frame only reflects the attitude of IBA and its unwillingness to mitigate the sufferings of a generation who had given their time, sweat and blood for the growth of the institution where you are all comfortable now.

It is quite unfortunate that UFBU were party to the "Record Note" with a preamble mentioning that pension is only a welfare measure and not a statutory right whereas you all know that pension is the product of a statutory law. The Pension Regulations are notified in the gazette and statutorily binding and calling pension as a "welfare measure" is a gross injustice to your brethren who had fought long and got it implemented in banks. We are afraid that what will be our position if in next BPS the IBA with the permission of UFBU decides to stop this so called welfare measure. We warn you to read and understand the effects of such notes before signing at least in future and save us from losing pension. 

We find that there is no response to your letter from IBA even after a lapse of a fortnight and we suspect the sincerity of IBA in early solution to our issues. You may insist for an early meeting without wasting anymore time as already 8 months have elapsed after signing 10th BPS and many of the retirees, especially pre-2002 retirees, are leaving this world without getting any relief. You may also insist the IBA to present the progress with respect to the actuarial studies and implement 100% DA neutralization to pre-2002 retirees, improvement in family pension, merger of 4440 points of DA in tune with 10th BPS agreement, and pension to the left over category immediately. Actually some of these issues require no actuarial studies at all as DA neutralization and FP improvement are already implemented in RBI whose pension formula we are following as per our pension regulation. The simple merger of 4440 points does not involve any cost as it is only shifting a portion of DA to basic pay. The IBA is unnecessarily delaying pension to a few thousand CRS/Resignee bank retirees in spite of clear court verdicts in their favour.

Comrade, it is a truth that bank retirees are feeling heavily let down by UFBU in 10th BPS and we request you to use the next opportunity to amend the wrongdoing. Hope you are not offended by these words and as an experienced and mature leader you can understand our feelings. We are anxiously awaiting for some good news in the next meeting itself.

with regards and best wishes,

Parasuraman.K.R

a pre-2002 bank pensioner.  

[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

Dear comrade Parasuraman.K.R.,

It is a nice letter drafted and sent to UFBU.Comrades like you make the retirees happy and  fight for our retirees cause. Other comrade I like is none other than our beloved P.M ji...thank you and keep it up....

Ramakrishnan.RP-a pre -2002 bank Pensioner

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[Parvatam Veera Bhadra Swamy]

Thanks for the best drafting and expressing the feelings of the retired employees to the convener of UFBU and I am hopeful of getting some positive response.
PVB Swamy
CB SVRS 2001

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[Mohan V.R]

Thanks comrade for the enlightened letter.

Sent From My Galaxy

On 1 Feb 2016 09:47, "PARASURAMAN K R" <paras...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[PARASURAMAN K R]

Thank you comrades for all your good comments but the purpose will not be served if it is not noticed by persons for whom it is meant. Hope UFBU understands our predicaments and acts soon.

[ashok aggarwal]

Dear sh.parasuraman,
thank you v.much for nicely putting up pensioners cause to ufbf leadership more particularly case of 100% d.a. neutralisation to pre 2002 retirees.

[Vvns Varaprasadrao]

Generally, Convener of UFBU is not in the habit of giving replies to such letters.

[Satyanarayana Rao]

Sri parssuraman .k.r .very nice letter addressed to com murali.let us hope the ufbu will do justice to their veterans. 

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On Mon, 1 Feb, 2016 at 7:19, PARASURAMAN K R

<paras...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Israel. P]

But before signing Xth settlement UFBU Convenor and AIBEA GS promptly replied to GS AIBRF' s letter.

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---- Vvns Varaprasadrao wrote ----

Generally, Convener of UFBU is not in the habit of giving replies to such letters.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Mohan V.R <vrmoh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks comrade for the enlightened letter.

Sent From My Galaxy

[seshagiri rao]

Respected Parasuramanji,     Thanks for the  heart warming letter by u.
The letter is drafted meticulously and I hope UFBU will do the needful.

[sekhar G.]

Sir you r correct. That is I insist these mails in this forum should be sent to the leaders. Probably they may  not care.

[vijayavittal mulbagal]

WHY THE UFBU SHOULD BE A PARTY TO OUR TALKS. THEY DITCHED US...BACK STABBED US

LET THERE BE BIPARTITE TALKS BETWEEN OUR RETIREES FEDERATION AND THE IBA..KEEP OUT THE UFBU, THEY HAVE NO ROLE TO PLAY

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From: seshagiri rao <sesh...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 09:56:02
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Subject: Re: bankpensioner Letter addressed to IBA for talks

Respected Parasuramanji,     Thanks for the  heart warming letter by u.
The letter is drafted meticulously and I hope UFBU will do the needful.

On 2 Feb 2016 09:41, "'Satyanarayana Rao' via bankpensioner" <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Sri parssuraman .k.r .very nice letter addressed to com murali.let us hope the ufbu will do justice to their veterans. 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Mon, 1 Feb, 2016 at 7:19, PARASURAMAN K R

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[Sureshbhat M]

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Suresh Bhat M

[bhaskara sarma]

Dear Suresh Bhat,

Every comment in this blog will be conveyed to Memmbers of UFBU.They have such a network to know about the adverse comments immediately.

With regards,

P B Sarma.

[Sundaram M.N.]

Read. Thanks for keeping the matters known to us all.

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[PARASURAMAN K R]

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From: PARASURAMAN K R <paras...@gmail.com>

Date: Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Letter addressed to IBA for talks
To: ufbu...@gmail.com

Dear Comrade Murali,

We were very enthusiastic when you as convenor of UFBU addressed a letter to IBA on 19/01/2016 for talks to discuss pending issues of retirees as well as discrepancy in IBA medical insurance scheme offered to retirees. We are sorry to note that nearly one month has elapsed and there is no response to your letter from IBA and no follow up from your part. The inaction on the part of both IBA and UFBU raises many doubts in the minds of the bank retirees questioning the sincerity of the parties in solving the long pending issues. Was that only a letter to thwart the move by MOF for tripartite negotiation involving major retiree organizations?. 

Some of the UFBU constituents are trying to address the retiree issues on individual capacity leading to suspicion on unity among the federation members on solving our issues. The IBA is giving vague replies on matters such as collection of data from member banks on cost implication on some retiree issues said to have undertaken by it. So we request you to remind IBA to convene a meeting to discuss our issues exclusively and report the progress made on data collection undertaken by it for actuarial studies. You may also enquire the reason for such a delay in completing the process and ask IBA to give a bank-wise report. Also please impress upon IBA the need to involve major retiree organizations for more fruitful discussion as any such move would bring some confidence in the minds of retirees. 

with regards,

Parasuraman.K.R

Trichur 

[koti]

IBA is not budging means our union leaders weakness in bargaining the things which we want.UFBU fully disregarded the retirees issues for their living benefits.They are thinking that they will never retire from the the present services.Already retired union leaders in some unions are chief negotiators not for the benefit of union members but for their own personal benefits.No militancy,No bargaining skills.short sighted vision among them is the cause for which we have to pay heavy price.IBA/GOI are en cashing the weakness of our leaders.If something have to be done to retirees that is to be done by our retirees organizations itself.That's all.  

[cpvnair]

Those who sleep could be waken up..how could we wake up one who pretends sleep dear Parasuramanji?

 

 

Warm reg

 

 

CPVNAIR

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[Sureshbhat M]

Dear Friends

 At last IBA got a reason to deprive negotiations with UFBU regarding pensioners' issue.  NPA at bank level gone very high and they need to write off crores and crores to big industrialists !!!. 

While Industrialists are intentional defaulters to Banks - Banks are intentional defaulters to its own Retirees ( and also to working employees to some extent)

Suresh bhat m

[bhaskara sarma]

Dear friends,

Jayanth Sinha,MOSF has instructed IBA and Finance Ministry officials to conduct a tri partite meeting with IBA,UFBU and Retiree representatives,more than one month back.But so far no further development is noticed.Anybody has any news about the Tripartite meeting?

With regards,

P B Sarma.

On Friday, February 19, 2016, Sureshbhat M <sures...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends

 At last IBA got a reason to deprive negotiations with UFBU regarding pensioners' issue.  NPA at bank level gone very high and they need to write off crores and crores to big industrialists !!!. 

While Industrialists are intentional defaulters to Banks - Banks are intentional defaulters to its own Retirees ( and also to working employees to some extent)

Suresh bhat m

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 3:58 PM, cpvnair <cpvnai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Those who sleep could be waken up..how could we wake up one who pretends sleep dear Parasuramanji?

 

 

Warm reg

 

 

CPVNAIR

JJayanth  

[Ramachandran Menon]

Vijay Mallaya had taken away Rs.6000 crores and he has been declared a wilful defaulter by the lending bankers. That means the employees of these banks would not get their salaries or pension till Mr.Mallaya pays off his debt. What a pitiable situation. 

Indian Railways has been a loss making body since many decades. Railway employees are paid their salaries and pension and their wages and pension are revised periodically. Why this disparity. 

[Snramanath Shastry]

Railway employees are paid bonus also!

[RAJ Alwe]

GOOD....

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